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Moonchilde's Avatar Moonchilde 06:41 PM 04-11-2013
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Moonchilde,

I think that is an excellent idea. Would you think it would be a good idea to also ask if they could do a firmware change allowing users to turn off some of the background processes running or is that an exercise in futility?

Thanks,

mm

Asking can't hurt, most they can say is no, best case is they consider it. I would personally love to completely eliminate the whole Home screen stuff, seriously needs to go, BUT, we have to consider they are marketing the TV a certain way and to change features post launch could be seen as not living up to their promise. Kinda like how Sony eliminated many features from the PS3 up until midway through its lifespan.

Dabearfan101's Avatar Dabearfan101 06:56 PM 04-11-2013
Hmm do you think it would be worth returning my 50st60 and get the gt50 for $100 more at bestbuy? Im a bit concerned with input lag, didn't seem to bother me while gaming but the thought of it there is!
JSpectre88's Avatar JSpectre88 07:00 PM 04-11-2013
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Hmm do you think it would be worth returning my 50st60 and get the gt50 for $100 more at bestbuy? Im a bit concerned with input lag, didn't seem to bother me while gaming but the thought of it there is!

Hell no. eek.gif
cadett's Avatar cadett 07:01 PM 04-11-2013
Your train of thought is in reverse order. wink.gif
supermandlb's Avatar supermandlb 07:03 PM 04-11-2013
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Hmm do you think it would be worth returning my 50st60 and get the gt50 for $100 more at bestbuy? Im a bit concerned with input lag, didn't seem to bother me while gaming but the thought of it there is!

I don't think it is worth it. I have the ST60 also and I was also considering the GT50. Not only is it $100 more, but you also lose the 3D glasses. So it is a net of about $250 difference. I know I don't notice any input lag, if you don't either... I wouldn't worry about it.
wattheF's Avatar wattheF 07:05 PM 04-11-2013
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My mistake. I did a search for "ABL" and just found the word able. I was able to find information after searching for "fluctuation". Seems to be pretty positive over here as far as hockey and fluctuations. Would like to hear from someone with the 65" though.

I have asked about this myself. The few responses I have seen have been positive. And based on Panasonics good track record with ABL functionality I feel pretty good about the ST60 not having any fluctuating issues but I would like to hear more positive feedback myself.
wattheF's Avatar wattheF 07:08 PM 04-11-2013
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Hmm do you think it would be worth returning my 50st60 and get the gt50 for $100 more at bestbuy? Im a bit concerned with input lag, didn't seem to bother me while gaming but the thought of it there is!

All reports have stated anywhere between a slight to significant PQ improvement in the ST60 over any of the 50 models even the VT50...'nuff said
MountainMichael's Avatar MountainMichael 07:32 PM 04-11-2013
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Atty's Avatar Atty 08:00 PM 04-11-2013
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Don't want to hi-jack the thread with input lag again, but, if you are a user who is concerned with it, then email Panny. ! I'm actually getting replies from Panny. They're forwarding the information I provided to their engineers, and asking if the display lag is how the TV is spec'd. If it is, then they'll let us know which user settings specifically will cut back on display lag, such as disabling processing and enabling game mode. If it isn't within spec then obviously they're going to have to look into stuff. The Panny rep also said there are other avenues they can take, too, but first they need to hear back from the engineers.

So, if people love the set but aren't happy about the input lag, then please let them know! If you send in an email, please be sure to specify you want it forwarded to a Techncal Knowledge Specialist who can pass the info along. The more feedback, the better.

Last time I bring this up in this thread, I just want as many users of the set as possible who may be concerned with it to help voice their concerns. That is all.
I've gotten the same email. I hope they can find something soon.
ryansebiz's Avatar ryansebiz 08:06 PM 04-11-2013
What's the Panny email address?
MountainMichael's Avatar MountainMichael 09:27 PM 04-11-2013
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cotoor's Avatar cotoor 09:54 PM 04-11-2013
I'm trying to play a video from my laptopt to my ST60 via Apple TV 3 and it's very choppy where it wasn't with my prior TV. I'm thinking there's a setting I need to de/activate. Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks!
biggweeziehd's Avatar biggweeziehd 10:01 PM 04-11-2013
Panasonic pulled the plug on plasma! DAMN! 2014 will be the last year!!!
Ph8te's Avatar Ph8te 10:09 PM 04-11-2013
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Panasonic pulled the plug on plasma! DAMN! 2014 will be the last year!!!

Really? people really need to stop propagating this information, with little to no backup, they ahve stopped R&D, they MAY pull out of plasma as of 2014, but that is yet to be determined and still could create plasmas for the next few years without the R&D section.....You wont see a real end to plasma until they can make OLED a true cost replacement for it....
biggweeziehd's Avatar biggweeziehd 10:11 PM 04-11-2013
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Panasonic pulled the plug on plasma! DAMN! 2014 will be the last year!!!

Had a beta VCR as a grade schooler=wack

Had a Sega genesis in high school instead of a Super Nintendo=wack

Bought a toshiba hddvd=wack

I buy my first plasma it gets discontinued=WTF! :-) I can't win!
biggweeziehd's Avatar biggweeziehd 10:13 PM 04-11-2013
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Really? people really need to stop propagating this information, with little to no backup, they ahve stopped R&D, they MAY pull out of plasma as of 2014, but that is yet to be determined and still could create plasmas for the next few years without the R&D section.....You wont see a real end to plasma until they can make OLED a true cost replacement for it....

Either way it's the beginning of the end. Try to make anything without r&d and see how long it's around.
AdamHD's Avatar AdamHD 10:30 PM 04-11-2013
For those who care, it looks like CNET may have a review up for the ST60 very soon. They have posted new pictures under the ST60 review section, including their standard screen pic, remote "in hand" pic, bezel pic, etc. Those pics were definitely taken at the CNET lab, on their "test" set. The actual written review is not there yet, but the pics from their testing are up. I'm looking forward to what David/Ty have to say.
fester99's Avatar fester99 11:19 PM 04-11-2013
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For those who care, it looks like CNET may have a review up for the ST60 very soon. They have posted new pictures under the ST60 review section, including their standard screen pic, remote "in hand" pic, bezel pic, etc. Those pics were definitely taken at the CNET lab, on their "test" set. The actual written review is not there yet, but the pics from their testing are up. I'm looking forward to what David/Ty have to say.
Where? post a link please. I looked on cnet but could not find these pictures
supermandlb's Avatar supermandlb 11:22 PM 04-11-2013
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Where? post a link please. I looked on cnet but could not find these pictures

http://m.cnet.com/reviews/will-panasonic-st60-outdo-our-favorite-2012-tv/35567256

I believe this is the link, it is the only thing I could find
kobyh15's Avatar kobyh15 11:47 PM 04-11-2013
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For those who care, it looks like CNET may have a review up for the ST60 very soon. They have posted new pictures under the ST60 review section, including their standard screen pic, remote "in hand" pic, bezel pic, etc. Those pics were definitely taken at the CNET lab, on their "test" set. The actual written review is not there yet, but the pics from their testing are up. I'm looking forward to what David/Ty have to say.

I've been checking everyday waiting for the ST60 review. Looking forward to it as well.
MountainMichael's Avatar MountainMichael 11:59 PM 04-11-2013
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ThrowingChicken's Avatar ThrowingChicken 12:29 AM 04-12-2013
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Had a beta VCR as a grade schooler=wack

Had a Sega genesis in high school instead of a Super Nintendo=wack

Bought a toshiba hddvd=wack

I buy my first plasma it gets discontinued=WTF! :-) I can't win!

Hey now; what's wrong with the Sega Genesis?

But really, these examples aren't comparable. Your have a Sega and everyone else has Nintendo, you can't share games. HD-DVD is discontinued; no more new HD-DVD releases. Plasma is discontinued (unconfirmed), but so what? Sucks for those who might have wanted a Panasonic Plasma in the future, but it doesn't exactly hinder plasma owners in any way.
MountainMichael's Avatar MountainMichael 12:30 AM 04-12-2013
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MountainMichael's Avatar MountainMichael 12:46 AM 04-12-2013
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openwheelracing's Avatar openwheelracing 12:56 AM 04-12-2013
Are you expecting them to give you a new firmware for ST60 to reduce input lag tonight? Or are you expecting them to replace your ST60 with a VT60? I think you are asking too much. I am surprised they are even replying at this hour. You are not talking to anyone important enough to pull any string, so just be polite and state your concerns and allow them time to respond.
fester99's Avatar fester99 02:31 AM 04-12-2013
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After all the bickering back and forth this evening, here is the reply I received. Judge for yourselves. I'm not entirely certain what to make of it other than: I'm pretty sure it means - "Please go away."

"Thank you for sharing your feedback with us here at Panasonic. We will send your recommendations to our research and development division to be considered in future product lines. It is very important to our company that we listen to our customers and provide the products and features that they desire."

I'm done on this issue other than deciding whether the lag is enough to return the panel or not. And after 35 years of video gaming (yeah, that's right. I began with PONG. dang I feel old), I'll know.
I love the fact that they will forward it to the now sun-setting Plasma R&D division. That reply just sounds like a form letter email, or auto response.
Moonchilde's Avatar Moonchilde 03:34 AM 04-12-2013
Yeah, I got a few of the Engrish ones, but a native english speaker ended up actually replying to one of mine. Michael check your PM.
MountainMichael's Avatar MountainMichael 06:53 AM 04-12-2013
Thanks, I appreciate it.
fitzz's Avatar fitzz 07:31 AM 04-12-2013
The ST60 just arrived at my local store.I can get a 55 " 3D for 1700.The ut 55" is down to iK.Is 700 more worth spending?Im just learning but im liking this brand.Thanks
jch1's Avatar jch1 07:38 AM 04-12-2013
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The ST60 just arrived at my local store.I can get a 55 " 3D for 1700.The ut 55" is down to iK.Is 700 more worth spending?Im just learning but im liking this brand.Thanks

Excepting for the fact that you may not be in Illinois, or simply want to buy local, but ABT and others have ST60s for significantly less than what you indicated.
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