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Panasonic TV Blink Codes for All Panasonic Models
Panasonic Plasma TVs have a built in circuit for fault diagnostics. If a fault occurs on one of the internal circuits, the firmware in the TV will detect it and output an error in the form of a blinking LED lite. The exact error is represented by the number of blinks in each series of blinks. By using this fault error code, you can diagnose the problem with the TV without even opening it. First, be sure you are counting the blinks correctly – it is very important to correctly diagnosing the problem. To do that, turn the TV OFF, and then back on and count the number of times the LED blinks. Repeat the process to confirm, and then look up the error code on the table below. This will very quickly diagnose the problem and tell you what board needs to be replaced or repaired.

1blink STV 5v sense DG Board
2blinks 15v SOS D Board
3blinks 3.3v SOS D Board
4blinks Power SOS P Board
5blinks 5v SOS D Board
6blinks Driver SOS 1 SU / SD / SC Boards (SC energy recovery circuit)
7blinks Driver SOS 2 SU / SD / SS Boards (SC floating voltage area)
8blinks Driver SOS 3 SS Board (SS energy recovery circuit)
9blinks Panel Config. SOS
10blinks Sub 5v SOS / Main 3v SOS DG Board DTV 9v SOS / Tuner Power SOS
11blinks Fan SOS PB Board
12blinks Sound SOS H Board
13blinks Communication error DG Board with IC8001 (Pesks Lite 2)

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Now that plasma is dead - what would you buy now?

I assume most of you, like me, had bought plasma TVs in the past because of the picture quality. What make/model would you buy today?
We have to admit that the new technology avoids having to worry about burn-in. It also uses a lot less electricity. I never hear of anyone having the new screens needing to be professionally calibrated to produce the best results. The older LED based screens required you to sit almost directly in front of the screen. Couldn't really view the picture that anything approaching a sharp angle.

The 50 inch Panny plasma in our main home (seven years old) is working fine, has a perfect picture, and obviously doesn't have the horrible ugly bazel thisST60 does. However, I assume because of age, its days may be numbered. I want to have something in the back of my mind so I don't rush out like I did w. the ST60 and make a mistake winding up with an ugly monstosity on the wall. (It may be ugly - but we can mostly avoid the mirror bezel and enjoy the good pic).

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I assume most of you, like me, had bought plasma TVs in the past because of the picture quality. What make/model would you buy today?
We have to admit that the new technology avoids having to worry about burn-in. It also uses a lot less electricity. I never hear of anyone having the new screens needing to be professionally calibrated to produce the best results. The older LED based screens required you to sit almost directly in front of the screen. Couldn't really view the picture that anything approaching a sharp angle.
I've found the Sony LCDs look more natural and have better colors than all the other brands. My older 55W800B looks probably 90-95% as good as my 55ST60 at night, and actually a little better on a bright afternoon in the man room.

Well with any LCD TV, the off-angle viewing will always be an issue. LCD TVs with a VA panel have better black levels and contrast ratio, but start to lose contrast at like 20 degrees off-center and the image starts to wash out. Alternately, LCD TVs with an IPS panel have poor/lower black levels and contrast ratio, but you can move further off-center before you start to lose contrast and start washing out. So VA panel would be better for watching movies, in the dark, with 2 to 4 people on the couch in front of the screen. An IPS panel would be better for watching broadcast programs or sports in a brighter room or during the daytime, at wider angles more off to the sides.

Here are models i'm considering if i decide to replace my W800B:

Sony XBR-55X700D (IPS panel) $799 http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x700d 7.5
Sony XBR-55X850D (IPS panel) $1,099 http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x850d 7.6
Sony XBR55X930D (Local Dimming, VA Panel) $1,499 http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x930d 8.1
Sony XBR55X900E (Local Dimming, VA Panel) $1,499 http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900e 8.2
Sony XBR55X930E (Local Dimming, VA Panel) $2,199 http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x930e 8.3


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I assume most of you, like me, had bought plasma TVs in the past because of the picture quality. What make/model would you buy today?
We have to admit that the new technology avoids having to worry about burn-in. It also uses a lot less electricity. I never hear of anyone having the new screens needing to be professionally calibrated to produce the best results. The older LED based screens required you to sit almost directly in front of the screen. Couldn't really view the picture that anything approaching a sharp angle.

The 50 inch Panny plasma in our main home (seven years old) is working fine, has a perfect picture, and obviously doesn't have the horrible ugly bazel thisST60 does. However, I assume because of age, its days may be numbered. I want to have something in the back of my mind so I don't rush out like I did w. the ST60 and make a mistake winding up with an ugly monstosity on the wall. (It may be ugly - but we can mostly avoid the mirror bezel and enjoy the good pic).

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I'd buy a used plasma. Still plenty of them left. I've got a 9 year old Panasonic plasma that still works fine. Picked up a 2013 60" LG plasma for $75 a few months ago. It's just sitting unused right now. Still trying to decide whether to keep it or sell it. I'll probably never get a deal like that again.

You don't see people getting LCDs calibrated because they don't care about the best PQ they can get, if they did they would have bought a plasma.

I just bought a bottom-of-the-line Sony LCD to play games I don't dare play on my plasma. Doesn't look anything like the ST60 to me and is much harder on the eyes but I don't have to worry about burn-in with old games that aren't plasma friendly. Works for what I bought it for.
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#RandyWalters: Why not OLED TVs? They are similar to plasmas such that they are emissive displays and Rtings rated them at the top. Maybe waiting for the kinks to be worked out and prices to drop?
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#RandyWalters: Why not OLED TVs? They are similar to plasmas such that they are emissive displays and Rtings rated them at the top. Maybe waiting for the kinks to be worked out and prices to drop?
They also have the same burn-in issues plasmas have unless they've fixed that.
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They also have the same burn-in issues plasmas have unless they've fixed that.
All TV technologies have burn in issues with the exception of DLP, but then it doesn't come in the form of a TV anymore only projection!
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All TV technologies have burn in issues with the exception of DLP, but then it doesn't come in the form of a TV anymore only projection!
CRTs and LCDs don't, maybe if you leave an image there for a very long time. Projection CRTs did but not conventional CRTs.
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I have seen CRTs and LCDs IR, I guess the image was impressed after a long time.
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My Xbox One has destroyed my ST60 for what it's worth.
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I play my PS3 on my ST60 all the time with no problems. I'm careful doing so though, I use different modes and settings to shift the screen around so stuff isn't in the same place all the time and watch TV between sessions.
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I play my PS3 on my ST60 all the time with no problems. I'm careful doing so though, I use different modes and settings to shift the screen around so stuff isn't in the same place all the time and watch TV between sessions.
Consider yourself lucky. I knew my set was gonna give me issues from the jump. Having a image up for 5 mins & it retains it for a while. Like I said, first Panny that's ever been this stubborn.
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Consider yourself lucky. I knew my set was gonna give me issues from the jump. Having a image up for 5 mins & it retains it for a while. Like I said, first Panny that's ever been this stubborn.
I keep my contrast as low as possible which definitely helps. I also use zoom, overscan, no overscan, even 4:3 sometimes to keep from having images in the same place on the screen all the time. It was pretty clear back when these were still in production that all the TVs weren't created equal. Some people complained of IR problems and others said there weren't any.

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Hello, I own a Samsung PN58C550 2010 plasma which I recently got for free a month ago (it needed a firmware update that the owner wasn't aware of so he gave it away). Today on our local Craiglist a Panasonic TC-P60ST60 2013 plasma was listed today for $500/BO. I'm tempted to 'upgrade,' as due to the our set's physical location, we cannot utilize any larger set and I do appreciate the PQ of Panasonic plasmas. Previously we watched a 2006 720p Panasonic plasma which had great PQ. However, putting the two inches larger display improvement aside (due to a thinner bezel), would it be worth it? I don't need any of the Smart Apps nor the 3-D functionality. My wife will think I'm crazy but I'd like to hear from like-minded folks here. I know it's a rare opportunity to upgrade to this make and model. Thanks!


Update: the seller will let it go for $450 after I offered $400. Wife is out so I still have to sell the idea to her.

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Hello, I own a Samsung PN58C550 2010 plasma which I recently got for free a month ago (it needed a firmware update that the owner wasn't aware of so he gave it away). Today on our local Craiglist a Panasonic TC-P60ST60 2013 plasma was listed today for $500/BO. I'm tempted to 'upgrade,' as due to the our set's physical location, we cannot utilize any larger set and I do appreciate the PQ of plasma. Previously we watched a 2006 720p Panasonic plasma which had great PQ. However, putting the two inches larger display improvement aside (due to a thinner bezel), would it be worth it? I don't need any of the Smart Apps nor 3-D functionality. My wife will think I'm crazy but I'd like to hear from like-minded folks here. I know it's a rare opportunity to upgrade to this make and model. Thanks!


Update: the seller will let it go for $450 after I offered $400. Wife is out so I still have to sell the idea to her.
$450 is a great price for that set. Check the hours. If it is over 8k bargain him down to $400.
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Hello, I own a Samsung PN58C550 2010 plasma which I recently got for free a month ago (it needed a firmware update that the owner wasn't aware of so he gave it away). Today on our local Craiglist a Panasonic TC-P60ST60 2013 plasma was listed today for $500/BO. I'm tempted to 'upgrade,' as due to the our set's physical location, we cannot utilize any larger set and I do appreciate the PQ of Panasonic plasmas. Previously we watched a 2006 720p Panasonic plasma which had great PQ. However, putting the two inches larger display improvement aside (due to a thinner bezel), would it be worth it? I don't need any of the Smart Apps nor the 3-D functionality. My wife will think I'm crazy but I'd like to hear from like-minded folks here. I know it's a rare opportunity to upgrade to this make and model. Thanks!


Update: the seller will let it go for $450 after I offered $400. Wife is out so I still have to sell the idea to her.
The difference between my 2008 Panny and the ST60 is night and day. Definitely a big upgrade from a 2006.
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The seller reported the following:
Hours: C6603-0000 6,603

I'm still trying to convince my wife the need to replace a 58" set with a 60" set (which the seller sympathizes with).

My bigger concern is: there are former owners on this thread who have abandon their ST60's due to IR or color 'splotches' issues (most visible on white backgrounds). Our Samsung has both types of problems but then again it was free. I really rather not pay for a set only to encounter those flaws again. Are these issues systematic of 1080p sets (as our 720p Panasonic is problem-free)?

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The seller reported the following:
Hours: C6603-0000 6,603

I'm still trying to convince my wife the need to replace a 58" set with a 60" set (which the seller sympathizes with).

My bigger concern is: there are former owners on this thread who have abandon their ST60's due to IR or color 'splotches' issues (most visible on white backgrounds). Our Samsung has both types of problems but then again it was free. I really rather not pay for a set only to encounter those flaws again. Are these issues systematic of 1080p sets (as our 720p Panasonic is problem-free)?
Very low hours! That things a baby. Just look for any issues and snatch that thing up.
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The seller reported the following:
Hours: C6603-0000 6,603

I'm still trying to convince my wife the need to replace a 58" set with a 60" set (which the seller sympathizes with).

My bigger concern is: there are former owners on this thread who have abandon their ST60's due to IR or color 'splotches' issues (most visible on white backgrounds). Our Samsung has both types of problems but then again it was free. I really rather not pay for a set only to encounter those flaws again. Are these issues systematic of 1080p sets (as our 720p Panasonic is problem-free)?
ALL TVs have flaws inherent to the format. There's no such thing as a perfect TV, never has been. Just buy it and enjoy it. I don't see this TV as any worse on IR than my 2008. It will be a huge upgrade from a 2006 TV.
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Update: the seller raised his price to $600/BO so I'm going to take a pass. Thanks for all the feedback!
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Update: the seller raised his price to $600/BO so I'm going to take a pass. Thanks for all the feedback!
Should have snagged it when you had the chance. They are RARELY for sale around here and when they are they are at least $700 for the 50".
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Has anyone been able to compare a 2016 Vizio P or M series to the ST60? I need to replace an old LG LCD and I'm considering moving the ST60 to that spot (my room) and putting another in the den. I would appreciate some ST60 owner opinions.

BTW, only recently have I noticed IR (and hubby tends to pause what he watches for longish periods). I ran the screen wipe on it for a few minutes and it's gone.

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Should have snagged it when you had the chance. They are RARELY for sale around here and when they are they are at least $700 for the 50".
I agree!!!

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Has anyone been able to compare a 2016 Vizio P or M series to the ST60? I need to replace an old LG LCD and I'm considering moving the ST60 to that spot (my room) and putting another in the den. I would appreciate some ST60 owner opinions.

BTW, only recently have I noticed IR (and hubby tends to pause what he watches for longish periods). I ran the screen wipe on it for a few minutes and it's gone.
I have both the Vizio P65 and a 50 inch ST. I won't get rid of the ST-60 until it dies, but I needed/wanted a larger set and OLED was too expensive for my blood. The Vizio actually is really close in it's representation of colors to the Panasonic. I think the Panasonic is more natural looking, but that's what made plasma's great. Of course, off angle viewing isn't anywhere near as good on the Vizio. The latest update has really helped the Vizio up it's game. Hit the sweet spot and you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Good luck with your selection.
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I have both the Vizio P65 and a 50 inch ST. I won't get rid of the ST-60 until it dies, but I needed/wanted a larger set and OLED was too expensive for my blood. The Vizio actually is really close in it's representation of colors to the Panasonic. I think the Panasonic is more natural looking, but that's what made plasma's great. Of course, off angle viewing isn't anywhere near as good on the Vizio. The latest update has really helped the Vizio up it's game. Hit the sweet spot and you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Good luck with your selection.

Thank you so much for your response. I have a 65" and a 50" ST60. I may end up putting the 50" in my hangout room and put the Vizio in the living room.

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I have both the Vizio P65 and a 50 inch ST. I won't get rid of the ST-60 until it dies, but I needed/wanted a larger set and OLED was too expensive for my blood. The Vizio actually is really close in it's representation of colors to the Panasonic. I think the Panasonic is more natural looking, but that's what made plasma's great. Of course, off angle viewing isn't anywhere near as good on the Vizio. The latest update has really helped the Vizio up it's game. Hit the sweet spot and you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Good luck with your selection.
That is actually really awesome to hear. I'm thinking of "upgrading" from my ST60 for a bigger screen with 4K and HDR and the M and P series have piqued my interest the most in terms of cost to performance. (Besides, OLED is out of my budget.)

I don't know if it's because I need a new prescription or if I'm just using the wrong settings but I've had a hell of a time making out dark scenes when watching movies or playing games on my PS4 or X-Box One using D-Nice's settings. This is both during the day and at night. The blacks actually look crushed and I can barely see anything.

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That is actually really awesome to hear. I'm thinking of "upgrading" from my ST60 for a bigger screen with 4K and HDR and the M and P series have piqued my interest the most in terms of cost to performance. (Besides, OLED is out of my budget.)

I don't know if it's because I need a new prescription or if I'm just using the wrong settings but I've had a hell of a time making out dark scenes when watching movies or playing games on my PS4 or X-Box One using D-Nice's settings. This is both during the day and at night. The blacks actually look crushed and I can barely see anything.
That's too bad regarding your ST. Get the 2016 version. It has the tablet, which a lot of people for some reason dislike...I actually like. Plus the 16 is cheaper. Tonight my wife and I were watching. She actually commented on how good the colors looked. That is with no settings changed and the latest FW. I watched the end of the Predators playoff hockey game and the color was amazingly punchy.
I personally think you can't go wrong with the P at the present time.
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Has anyone been able to compare a 2016 Vizio P or M series to the ST60? I need to replace an old LG LCD and I'm considering moving the ST60 to that spot (my room) and putting another in the den. I would appreciate some ST60 owner opinions.

BTW, only recently have I noticed IR (and hubby tends to pause what he watches for longish periods). I ran the screen wipe on it for a few minutes and it's gone.
I don't own the ST60, but I do own a VT60, KS8500, AND Vizio P65-C1. ALso briefly had an LG C6 Oled, but returned due to really bad shadow detail and macroblocking-esque artifacts in said dark scenes.

The Vizio P series has better black levels, pop, and contrast than the VT60. The plasma has better depth in the image, default motion blur handling (though the Vizio does have strobing tech that makes motion blur handling very similar to plasma/CRT), and organic quality to the picture.

All in all, I'd say the P series is a decent upgrade to most things in the VT60 but not all. I love both, and would be just as happy with the VT60 if it had a 4K resolution.

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That is actually really awesome to hear. I'm thinking of "upgrading" from my ST60 for a bigger screen with 4K and HDR and the M and P series have piqued my interest the most in terms of cost to performance. (Besides, OLED is out of my budget.)

I don't know if it's because I need a new prescription or if I'm just using the wrong settings but I've had a hell of a time making out dark scenes when watching movies or playing games on my PS4 or X-Box One using D-Nice's settings. This is both during the day and at night. The blacks actually look crushed and I can barely see anything.
This seems pretty obvious, adjust the settings yourself. If it's too dark there are plenty of settings on the TV, contrast, brightness, gamma, black level, AGC and panel brightness. Don't give up without at least trying.

I would NEVER let someone else tell me where to have picture settings on my TV.
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