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This is initially going to be a loosely organized work in progress, but i'm going to try to keep the first few posts updated with current information about the new 2013 lineup.

Edit - Panasonic has reduced most of their initial MSRP prices before the TVs are to be released.......

TC-P42X60 $399 (Available Only at Sears, and maybe Best Buy) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P42X60
TC-P50X60 $549 (Available Only at Sears, and maybe Best Buy) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P50X60

TC-P42S60 $729 (still $729 - Ships in March) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P42S60
TC-P50S60 $899 (now $829 - Ships in March) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P50S60
TC-P55S60 $1,099 (now $999 - Ships in March) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P55S60
TC-P60S60 $1,299 (still $1,299 - Ships in March) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P60S60
TC-P65S60 $1,899 (now $1,699 - Ships in March) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P65S60

TC-P50ST60 $1,299 (now $1,149 - Ships in March) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P50ST60
TC-P55ST60 $1,599 (now $1,499 - Ships in April) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P55ST60
TC-P60ST60 $1,899 ( still $1,699 - Ships in April) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P60ST60
TC-P65ST60 $2,799 (now $2,599 - Ships in April) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P65ST60

TC-P55VT60 ($2,599 - Ships in May) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P55VT60
TC-P60VT60 ($2,999 - Ships in May) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P60VT60
TC-P65VT60 ($3,599 - Ships in May) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P65VT60

TC-P60ZT60 ($3,499 - Ships in June) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P60ZT60
TC-P65ZT60 ($4,099 - Ships in June) http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P65ZT60


How to check the Hours Used in the regular user menu (S60/ST60/VT60/ZT60):
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Nice Price Drops for 2013 !

Comparison of 2013 Panasonic Initial MSRP vs 2012 and 2011 MSRPs:

TC-P42UT50 $799
TC-P42S60 $729

TC-P50UT50 $1,099
TC-P50S60 $899

TC-P55UT50 $1,399
TC-P55S60 $1,099

TC-P60UT50 $1,799
TC-P60S60 $1,299

TC-P65S60 $1,899


TC-P50ST30 $1,499 (End Of Production MSRP was at $1,299)
TC-P50ST50 $1,399 (End Of Production MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $1,012)
TC-P50ST60 $1,299 (now $1,149 - Ships in March)

TC-P55ST30 $1,799 (End Of Production MSRP was at $1,599)
TC-P55ST50 $1,699 (End Of Production MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $1,297)
TC-P55ST60 $1,599 (now $1,499 - Ships in April)

TC-P60ST30 $2,399 (End Of Production MSRP was at $2,099)
TC-P60ST50 $2,099
TC-P60ST60 $1,899 ( still $1,699 - Ships in April)

TC-P65ST30 $3,299 (End Of Production MSRP was at $2,999)
TC-P65ST50 $2,999
TC-P65ST60 $2,799 (now $2,599 - Ships in April)


TC-P55VT30 $2,799 (End Of Production MSRP was at $2,499)
TC-P55VT50 $2,499 (End Of Production MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was also $2,499)
TC-P55VT60 $ TBA

TC-P60VT60 $ TBA

TC-P65VT30 $4,299 (at End Of Production MSRP was at $3,999)
TC-P65VT50 $3,699 (was immediately adjusted down from the original/planned $3,999) (EOP MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was still $3,699)
TC-P65VT60 $ TBA

TC-P60ZT60 $ TBA
TC-P65ZT60 $ TBA




There is no GT series in the 2013 lineup but here are what they were in 2011 and 2012 as a point of comparison:

TC-P50GT30 $1,899 (at end of production MSRP was at $1499)
TC-P50GT50 $1,799 (EOP MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $1,399)

TC-P55GT30 $2,199 (at end of production MSRP was at $1,999)
TC-P55GT50 $2,099 (EOP MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $1,611)

TC-P60GT30 $2,799 (at end of production MSRP was at $2,599)
TC-P60GT50 $2,599 (EOP MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $2,199)

TC-P65GT30 $3,699 (at end of production MSRP was at $3,199)
TC-P65GT50 $3,299 (recently adjusted down from the original $3,499) (EOP MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $3,003)

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Hi Randy,

I have the tc-p42st30. Should I upgrade to a st60?
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Panasonic recently reduced most of their initial MSRP prices on the 2013 models, and the TVs have not even started shipping yet smile.gif

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The new 2013 S60 series Owners Manuals have just been released ! :

S60 Owner's Manual (contains line drawings with dimensions):

http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/TCP42S60.PDF



And the E-Help Manual (that's built into the TV):

http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/E-HELP_S60.PDF



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Just looking for pic quality not any of the add-on stuff...Between the S60 and the ST60 which one would be the better deal...

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Thank you for posting this information. Why is the Panasonic website so inadequate for information? No specs, no manuals (got them through your links), no detailed information. If you poke around the site, you really can't find anything. To be honest, I don't know why I even persisted so hard. The competitor's websites are full of easy to find information.
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Thank you for posting this information. Why is the Panasonic website so inadequate for information? No specs, no manuals (got them through your links), no detailed information. If you poke around the site, you really can't find anything. To be honest, I don't know why I even persisted so hard. The competitor's websites are full of easy to find information.

The specs and information is usually put up on their website around the time the particular model is released so the site should be updated as the TVs are released over the next several weeks.

If you look at the 2012 models, the detailed specifications and links to manuals are all there. Manuals are usually accessed through the Get Support tab, just like it is with my surround sound receiver, printer, coffee maker, vacuum cleaner, etc.

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I hear you but they're a marketing company. The product is listed as being for sale. Once they enter manufacturing phase, they obviously know the specs. I looked under support. Nothing was listed. Your link was a little different (it had a http://service.us.panasonic.com/ domain) and their link doesn't. If you click on get support, and enter the model number, the page comes up with warranty info, ask questions, etc. But again, no user guides, etc. Too be honest, they should fire their marketing and website team. There should be a link for manuals under the product, or a link to support for that product on the product page (with the product number embedded) that takes me directly to support for that product vs. having me click a support link and then re-enter the product info to search for it. That is how a proper marketing/sales website should work. It is just lazy coding on their part. They make it too hard and non user friendly. They need outside people to assess how it works and doesn't work. I like their products but check out websites for Sony, Samsung, etc. and they operate differently.

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. Once they enter manufacturing phase, they obviously know the specs. e.

Not really. Modern electronics control almost everything through software and this can be updated up to the last minute before shipping and even after that. Just as an example, one guy who has access to the zt model, told on another forum that THX has not been implemented yet. This was a week ago.,

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In any event, I'm looking to buy this TV, model TC-P60S60. Do you know if it is shipping?
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I hear you but they're a marketing company. The product is listed as being for sale. Once they enter manufacturing phase, they obviously know the specs. I looked under support. Nothing was listed. Your link was a little different (it had a http://service.us.panasonic.com/ domain) and their link doesn't. If you click on get support, and enter the model number, the page comes up with warranty info, ask questions, etc. But again, no user guides, etc. Too be honest, they should fire their marketing and website team. There should be a link for manuals under the product, or a link to support for that product on the product page (with the product number embedded) that takes me directly to support for that product vs. having me click a support link and then re-enter the product info to search for it. That is how a proper marketing/sales website should work. It is just lazy coding on their part. They make it too hard and non user friendly. They need outside people to assess how it works and doesn't work. I like their products but check out websites for Sony, Samsung, etc. and they operate differently.

Well historically they finalize the product page about the time the TV is released for retail sale so the page will be updated soon. It's still a bit too soon for them to be updating the S60 page. If you look at the pages for the 2012 models (GT50 for instance), they have a full specs tab and an Owners Manual tab right there on the main product page with direct links to the Owners Manual and the E-Help Manual. Once the S60's page is finalized it will have these tabs.

http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P60GT50?t=manuals

I'd been checking the ST50 and GT50 pages last year and the full specs tab and manual tab didn't appear until the same week that Best Buy and Magnolia had put the TVs on display. It's like that pretty much every year. And i agree that Panasonic's website could be a lot better - people have been complaining about it for like 10 years but nothing really changes. As for Samsung, last year they didn't even put the PNE6500 or PNE7000 series up on their website at all until two months after the TV was on store shelves. I kept checking for them and they just weren't there at all. Sony's website is great.

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Just looking for pic quality not any of the add-on stuff...Between the S60 and the ST60 which one would be the better deal...
In terms of pic quality, the S60 is lacking the 2500 Focused Field Drive that is found on the ST60 and higher models. I believe this improves motion blur, but I am not sure if this is a major noticeable effect on pic quality. And supposedly plasma tech is less succeptible to motion blur anyhow, as compared to LCD/LED.
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Panasonic is giving away ST60s via twitter contest: https://www.wf-site.com/microsite/pages/29bdbab753bda94b

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Nice Price Drops for 2013 !

Comparison of 2013 Panasonic Initial MSRP vs 2012 and 2011 MSRPs:

TC-P42UT50 $799
TC-P42S60 $729

TC-P50UT50 $1,099
TC-P50S60 $899

TC-P55UT50 $1,399
TC-P55S60 $1,099

TC-P60UT50 $1,799
TC-P60S60 $1,299

TC-P65S60 $1,899


TC-P50ST30 $1,499 (End Of Production MSRP was at $1,299)
TC-P50ST50 $1,399 (End Of Production MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $1,012)
TC-P50ST60 $1,299

TC-P55ST30 $1,799 (End Of Production MSRP was at $1,599)
TC-P55ST50 $1,699 (End Of Production MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $1,297)
TC-P55ST60 $1,599

TC-P60ST30 $2,399 (End Of Production MSRP was at $2,099)
TC-P60ST50 $2,099
TC-P60ST60 $1,899

TC-P65ST30 $3,299 (End Of Production MSRP was at $2,999)
TC-P65ST50 $2,999
TC-P65ST60 $2,799


TC-P55VT30 $2,799 (End Of Production MSRP was at $2,499)
TC-P55VT50 $2,499 (End Of Production MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was also $2,499)
TC-P55VT60 $ TBA

TC-P60VT60 $ TBA

TC-P65VT30 $4,299 (at End Of Production MSRP was at $3,999)
TC-P65VT50 $3,699 (was immediately adjusted down from the original/planned $3,999) (EOP MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was still $3,699)
TC-P65VT60 $ TBA

TC-P60ZT60 $ TBA
TC-P65ZT60 $ TBA





TC-P50GT30 $1,899 (at end of production MSRP was at $1499)
TC-P50GT50 $1,799 (EOP MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $1,399)

TC-P55GT30 $2,199 (at end of production MSRP was at $1,999)
TC-P55GT50 $2,099 (EOP MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $1,611)

TC-P60GT30 $2,799 (at end of production MSRP was at $2,599)
TC-P60GT50 $2,599 (EOP MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $2,199)

TC-P65GT30 $3,699 (at end of production MSRP was at $3,199)
TC-P65GT50 $3,299 (recently adjusted down from the original $3,499) (EOP MSRP on ‎12/‎09/‎12 was $3,003)
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Randy. Thank you for starting this. ? Do you plan on starting a Samsung thread like this one to compare ? Thanks.
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In terms of pic quality, the S60 is lacking the 2500 Focused Field Drive that is found on the ST60 and higher models. I believe this improves motion blur, but I am not sure if this is a major noticeable effect on pic quality. And supposedly plasma tech is less succeptible to motion blur anyhow, as compared to LCD/LED.

& 2x the shades of gradation, & the "infinite black pro" filter someone may want, depending on lighting conditions.

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Everyone like me is waiting I guess for New 60 series to be reviewed ... ?!?!?
I am hopping for a 55VT60...
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I went to Best Buy yesterday looking to see a TC-P65VT50, but they didn't have VTs on display (just GTs). I'm looking into it for my new TV. One thing I'm worried about is burn-in since it'll be used mostly for gaming and I don't know if that's still an issue with plasmas. Is that something I need to worry about? I hear this is the tv to get, but should I wait for the vt60 series? What does the vt60 series have over the vt50?

Also, where can I find some pictures of the inputs? Reviews say it's like a hybrid input or something but I don't know what that means.
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I'm probably going to bite the bullet on one of these for my movie viewing pleasure and I'm certain I won't be disappointed in that regard. However, I do have one concern: gaming and input delay. Is this still a concern with modern plasmas? The lack of numbers anywhere regarding the matter are disturbing.

Edit: Just came back from Best Buy extremely disappointed. I was told over the phone that they had the ZT60s available for purchase and it turned out that they didn't, just VTs. I am one unhappy pappy and I'm also quite insulted with how I was treated.
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