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Maybe they need a TV leasing program or something similar to cell phones where for not too much cash you get a new one every couple of years.

I saw an ad a while back for renting computers that actually made a lot of sense. it was cheap enough, and with computers, upgrading every year isn't crazy. I don't think there's many products that would work for this though. I'd always prefer to own something than to pay to use it. but it was something like 20bux a month for a reasonably up to date computer, that's pretty fair if you want to stay current and upgrade often.

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I'm lucky if I upgrade once every 6 years (PC-wise)...which reveals a sobering reality about my TV replacement cycle, which at most recent count is 5 years. tongue.gif
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I'm lucky if I upgrade once every 6 years (PC-wise)...which reveals a sobering reality about my TV replacement cycle, which at most recent count is 5 years. tongue.gif

I can relate to that! I upgrade my PC only when it breaks and then my brother builds me a new one biggrin.gif

As for TVs, well the ST60 was our first new set since the 2006 Sony HD CRT. But we have plenty of old ones throughout the house. I still have the late 1950's RCA B & W that is in all of my baby photos. And yes it does work (just have to wait a bit for the tubes to warm up biggrin.gif )

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Unless you're a gamer, once you have a PC/laptop with an Intel i7 CPU, GB's of RAM, SSD or Raid 0 HDDs, higher end video card... what's left to upgrade to?

So you can run some infinitesimally faster version of IE11, or YouTube video?

Save your money for an OLED.
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I'm lucky if I upgrade once every 6 years (PC-wise)...which reveals a sobering reality about my TV replacement cycle, which at most recent count is 5 years. tongue.gif

I hear ya, my current laptop was purchased over 8yrs ago, and my desktop approaching 6.

but it makes sense. I think it was aimed for businesses/schools. ppl who don't necessarily need the cutting edge computer processing, but because they are buying midrange machines will need upgrades more often.

I remember my brother buying a 100gb HDD and thinking, why? there's no possible way to use that much. demands will always go up. higher definition video, or higher definition displays/monitors, websites with more animations, programs that get more complicated all mean it takes more processing power to get the same perceived results.

anyway, of all the things I own that I'd LIKE to upgrade but don't it's my computer.

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I hear ya, my current laptop was purchased over 8yrs ago, and my desktop approaching 6.

but it makes sense. I think it was aimed for businesses/schools. ppl who don't necessarily need the cutting edge computer processing, but because they are buying midrange machines will need upgrades more often.

I remember my brother buying a 100gb HDD and thinking, why? there's no possible way to use that much. demands will always go up. higher definition video, or higher definition displays/monitors, websites with more animations, programs that get more complicated all mean it takes more processing power to get the same perceived results.

anyway, of all the things I own that I'd LIKE to upgrade but don't it's my computer.

LOL You got me thinking about a time long ago when my little brother was still a carefree bachelor who used to build his own expensive gaming computers.
One day when hubby and I were in Best Buy I remarked at the outrageous cost of some of the video cards. I said to him "Look at that , $400.00!! What kind of idiot would pay that much for a video card???!!!"

Later that week my brother called and was telling me all about the four hundred bucks he got back when he returned a video card to BB.......................... rolleyes.gif

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LOL You got me thinking about a time long ago when my little brother was still a carefree bachelor who used to build his own expensive gaming computers.
One day when hubby and I were in Best Buy I remarked at the outrageous cost of some of the video cards. I said to him "Look at that , $400.00!! What kind of idiot would pay that much for a video card???!!!"

Later that week my brother called and was telling me all about the four hundred bucks he got back when he returned a video card to BB.......................... rolleyes.gif

Heh!

Did you look again at the GTX Titan's? Those things are hovering below and above $1,000.
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Heh!

Did you look again at the GTX Titan's? Those things are hovering below and above $1,000.

Whew that is some big $$$. But back in the days before my brother married and had the monsters nephews four hundred bucks WAS the equivalent of these new costly cards. Those were the days when he could afford the high end stuff wink.gif

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LOL You got me thinking about a time long ago when my little brother was still a carefree bachelor who used to build his own expensive gaming computers.
One day when hubby and I were in Best Buy I remarked at the outrageous cost of some of the video cards. I said to him "Look at that , $400.00!! What kind of idiot would pay that much for a video card???!!!"

Later that week my brother called and was telling me all about the four hundred bucks he got back when he returned a video card to BB.......................... rolleyes.gif

what's funny is I keep looking at video cards to upgrade my HTPC with, and i'll see one for around 100bux, and i'm always questioning why I should 'waste' 100bux on it...

but really, that's a dangerous road to go down. who would spend 40k on speakers? why did I spend 3k on a f8500 that I was only planning to use for casual viewing when i'm not using the projector?

at the end of the day, 400bux isn't THAT big of expense if it's something you use often. it may not make sense for you or I, if we don't play games, but for somebody that does, it could be more significant than upgrading to a ps4 or xbone...

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but really, that's a dangerous road to go down. who would spend 40k on speakers? why did I spend 3k on a f8500 that I was only planning to use for casual viewing when i'm not using the projector?

Would you spend 40k on a 4k OLED?
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at the end of the day, 400bux isn't THAT big of expense if it's something you use often. it may not make sense for you or I, if we don't play games, but for somebody that does, it could be more significant than upgrading to a ps4 or xbone...

Thing is... PC games are mainly console ports nowadays and quite badly bugged poor performing ones at that. Forking that money over for a PC game thats been a console port.
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Where is *any* 4K OLED going for $40k?
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KOF, reflections are my biggest complaint concerning the limitations of the ZT60. That is a moot concern for when I typically watch (evenings). The OLED should be more than adequate for someone like me.

Any problems with the filter? I saw the ZT60 too and the reflection was the last thing on my mind! eek.gif The filter is really, really good.
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The only problems are the vertical angle degradation (not a problem since I have it at eye level) and light output when competing with the sun since there is a sliding glass door off to the side (I should look into seeing if I can duplicate the light output as achieved by Chad...I don't think accuracy is quite as important in a bright room; for the moment, I'm only using the THX Bright Room preset with its greenish hued skin tones :X). Also, as great as the filter is in preserving the contrast ratio, it is still no match for windows that are parallel to the screen (I have one such window in a kitchen), especially with dimmer content. Glossy screens and reflections are basically inseparable phenomenons. wink.gif
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The only problems are the vertical angle degradation (not a problem since I have it at eye level) and light output when competing with the sun since there is a sliding glass door off to the side (I should look into seeing if I can duplicate the light output as achieved by Chad...I don't think accuracy is quite as important in a bright room; for the moment, I'm only using the THX Bright Room preset with its greenish hued skin tones :X). Also, as great as the filter is in preserving the contrast ratio, it is still no match for windows that are parallel to the screen (I have one such window in a kitchen), especially with dimmer content. Glossy screens and reflections are basically inseparable phenomenons. wink.gif

Didn't know you would abuse your ZT60 in the sun like that. biggrin.gif No wonder it's an issue. Doesn't look like the F8500 and the LCDs will fare well in that situation either. My Panasonic S64 also receives direct sunlight during the day, but contents are at least watchable thanks to the filter.

ZT60 performing well under store lights is one thing, but against the sunlight, that's a different beast altogether. My Sony LCD was matte, and it still didn't survive the sunlight.
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Well, the biggest contributor to the sun entering through that glass door (and nearby dining room windows) is because I have a white (ish) rock-laden retaining wall that is maybe 30 feet from the house, and it reflects the sun pretty significantly. Using the blinds will mitigate it without a hitch (and I can switch to a lower light output setting, score!). Window treatments would assuredly help even further.
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One thing that I find myself contemplating, is a 55" OLED so good that it could actually be an alternative to a larger TV? I mean, would the "OLED experience" be so good that the experience from it could be greater than that of a larger TV like a 64" F8505 or a 60" ZT60?
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Good question - I just can't get past the curved screen though.

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The curved screen is fantastic, but I feel like the screen needs to be 75"+ or the curve seems a gimmick. Similar to 3D, the curve has best effect when it dominates field of view. Similar to 3D, i think most people will go out their way to see that it fails too. If you do not know, the curve is to create a layered more immersive view. It works with your peripheral view to bring the scene "at you".

I love the contrast of OLEDs and I spent a lot of time watching the 55" Samsung and 55" LG. The LG looks much nicer to my eyes, and the Samsung has that typical Samsung cartoony color pallette. I am excited for OLED price to come down but I would not grab a 55" and go down in size. Newer homes seem to be built to accommodate larger TV choices and let you sit further back. Being able to place a TV on a wall creates more floor space. I do not want to lose floor space for a curved TV. The curve is cool and all but wall mounting takes priority for me. Just my 2 cents.

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At least my personal opinion is that the screen looks much more curved on photos than it does in real life, where the curve is almost not noticable. But wall mounting of course is out of the question (at least for normal wall mounting)
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The upcoming curved Samsung 8000 LEDs, aka the Last TV on earth I would purchase will be wall mountable.

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The upcoming curved Samsung 8000 LEDs, aka the Last TV on earth I would purchase will be wall mountable.

And?
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Wall mountable curved? I can't picture that. Wouldn't that look odd?...
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And?

oh nothing, just saying there will be mountable curved sets.
just haven't seen a mountable OLED that is curved yet.

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oh nothing, just saying there will be mountable curved sets.
just haven't seen a mountable OLED that is curved yet.

Ah, I see, after reading your text again I think it might be missing a comma which gave it a somewhat different meaning and that you probably did not mean that you should buy the last TV on earth and wall mount it biggrin.gif

"The upcoming curved Samsung 8000 LEDs, aka the Last TV on earth I would purchase, will be wall mountable
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55EA9800 for $1999 + tax would you pull the trigger?

http://www.microcenter.com/product/4..._TV_-_55EA9800
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