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post #31 of 46 Old 11-07-2013, 01:08 PM
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About how many hours on it did you have before returning the ZT?

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Well, Mark, unfortunately for me, I didn't witness this easy susceptibility to IR/burn-in until 3 months into ownership (at the onset of football season), and I didn't use my set to watch any TV before that time (my mistake). The Fox scoreboard outline has been apparent in my ZT60 for 2 weeks now. I don't have the pixel flipper but have run the wiper and, more recently, the slides in vivid mode for many, many hours with no change in the outline. Live and learn, eh?
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Well, Mark, unfortunately for me, I didn't witness this easy susceptibility to IR/burn-in until 3 months into ownership (at the onset of football season), and I didn't use my set to watch any TV before that time (my mistake). The Fox scoreboard outline has been apparent in my ZT60 for 2 weeks now. I don't have the pixel flipper but have run the wiper and, more recently, the slides in vivid mode for many, many hours with no change in the outline. Live and learn, eh?

If you would have known , would you have gone with a F8500? I question it myself some times.

I'd go and get the Disney WOW just for the pixel flipper. You also might want to try leaving just an all white image with the contrast maxed for an extended period of time to see If that helps.
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...probably not, though the purported IR resilience on that panel sometimes makes me think twice.

Do you think the pixel flipper works more reliably than the slides or full-screen white only? I would grab it now, but I'm reeling from recent bills. I did leave a white slide on for an extended time already. I think switching to the slideshow is just as efficacious, though.
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I am confused now.. Reading the IR issue - some guys report it, some not... to buy plasma or LED. .. again in the dilemma. ..

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My big hang-up about trying to nail down the speakers was that I prefer not to have them taking up space on the front of the panel, regardless of how thin they are. So my thing was that if both have the same speakers then I'll probably go ahead and get the lower price VT but if I can get a slightly narrower panel in the ZT, at the same size, then I might be willing to put out the extra cash. I'm upgrading from a seven year old DLP so I think I'll love either one. However, I must have read 1,000 post by now on the VT and ZT but have yet have one person discuss the specifics about the speakers but there does appear to be some difference based on the Panasonic site descriptions.

I just got a 65" ZT60 delivered yesterday. Stunning picture. I have a BD on infinite repeat as we speak. The speakers are damn near impossible to see. Oddly, there is no On/Off button for them-you have to turn the volume to 0 for external speakers.
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There should be a setting in the APPS menu that allows you to choose home theater speakers as the default, look for Viera link of Viera Settings don't remember the exact menu option

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...probably not, though the purported IR resilience on that panel sometimes makes me think twice.

Do you think the pixel flipper works more reliably than the slides or full-screen white only? I would grab it now, but I'm reeling from recent bills. I did leave a white slide on for an extended time already. I think switching to the slideshow is just as efficacious, though.

I think the pixel flipper worked better on mine than anything, although that coule be placebo. I happend to pick up the WOW disc on sale at amazon a few months ago just for the pixel flipper. If you have spare cash then you might want to pick it up, but I wouldn't break the bank or stretch fundsfor it. Might be a good christmas preasant.....
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You've convinced me to keep it in my Amazon cart for now. How low did it drop? $15.77?
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You've convinced me to keep it in my Amazon cart for now. How low did it drop? $15.77?

That is cheaper than what I paid which was 17.86
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My dilemma: p65vt60 or p60zt60. . (No 65zt60 in Europe unfortunately).. my room will be darker especially during the night.

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My dilemma: p65vt60 or p60zt60. . (No 65zt60 in Europe unfortunately).. my room will be darker especially during the night.

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Id say the 65vt60. The real advantage the zt has over the vt is in bright room performance due the the better ar filter. If your room is going to be darker ,then go with the vt especially since it is 5 inches bigger.
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ok, last minute decision

i got a 65-inch zt60 at best buy tonight for $2899.98 with a tilt wall mount for $0.01

the black friday price was $3199.98, missed it and thought about it all weekend

this will be my fourth panasonic plasma, each costing about $3k, starting with a 32-inch ed, then a 42-inch 720p, currently a 50-inch 1080p, and now a 65-inch 3d 1080p

i did not want to do it, but it was hard to resist

it may be the last / best plasma ever

i was comparing side by side the vt60, the zt60, and the f8500 samsung

perhaps on their own a difference would be hard to spot, but side by side it is not - to me the zt60 was best

as i am having it delivered, i could back out and cancel

did i make a mistake???

who knows
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You put the ZT60 and the F8500 side-by-side and thought the ZT60 was the best?

May I ask why?

 

I actually saw it the other way around, but of course, it's all a personal preference.

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I had about 400 hours on the ZT. This was the first plasma I ever experienced burn in with and know all about it and take precautions to avoid it. I should have not expeienced this just by using the satellite guide. But after 5 days of not using it, the image never fainted. Still enjoying the F8500 and still no IR problems like the ZT had. Again, the ZT had better blacks, but not by much, but other then that, not much difference. I actually prefer the extra details and bit brighter image that I have the F8500 set to.
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The first few hundred hours are the most susceptible to IR from what I've found. I just kept watching different sources and stretched the screen (it was awful!) But after some use I felt less paranoid about it and never had issues. I had an ST50 though so that could be a part of it. The 8500 would probably look better in a showroom with its superior bright room performance but dim the lights and you'll see the Panasonic Blacks:)
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