There is also a limited-run Costco/Sams Club version of the S60 called the S64 series that is exactly the same as the S60 series, but simply adds the Anti-Reflective Louver Filter from the higher-end ST60/VT60 models. The S64 is only available in 50" and 65" screen sizes:
Quick way to Check the Hours Used Via the regular User Menu (same for all 2013 models):
Go to Menu > Help > Version > and scroll down to Status4. On that line you'll see a letter A or B or C followed by a 4-digit number which is the number of hours. A0039-0000 for instance would be 39 hours. C1926-00000 would be 1,926 hours.
Weird this years panasonics have a subwoofer now. That's inside the panel housing, or external? If inside, I'm trying to imagine how big or effective that could possibly be. Still must be an improvement for all the complaints re: on board sound quality.
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Weird this years panasonics have a subwoofer now. That's inside the panel housing, or external? If inside, I'm trying to imagine how big or effective that could possibly be. Still must be an improvement for all the complaints re: on board sound quality.
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I just checked and aside from the usual info you get from pressing info (resolution, video mode, closed captioning, etc), you get the actual channel in the top left and then you get the name of the show running. No extra program info that I can see from just pressing info.
Disappointing but not unexpected. I don't know why Panasonic can't provide this basic program info for OTA antenna users. Otherwise excellent pic quality, but lack of a very nice and basic feature that other manufacturers such as Samsung and LG provide.
I wasn't on the AV squad in high school nor I can I explain all the geek squad minutiae in technical jargon on how to judge good TV picture quality but I am pretty anal when it comes to wanting an outstanding plasma picture quality .I bought the Samsung 51 E7000 a couple of months ago and was pretty happy with it until I started reading all the great reviews about the 2012 Panasonic's so I bought the 50 st50 a few weeks ago and immediately realized the ST50 IMHO had a significantly better picture as far as black levels, brightness and I even like the colors better than on the Sammy in the custom mode.My understanding from reading this thread is the s60 might even be better as far as PQ than the ST50 so if this is true i would say exchange it.I wish I had made my decision to exchange when i could have still returned the Sammy to Amazon. Now I have to try to sell it on Craigslist and only getting low ball offers for 400.00.lol.
Got my 42s60 shipped from ABT yesterday. I have little experience w/ HD or plasmas, but it looks pretty damn great to me.
And while it doesn't have the complete homepage/viera tools, it does more than I need it to. Netflix, Hulu, Vudu, Amazon, with a pretty slick interface. Better than the internet interface on the blu-ray BDT-220 I also bought. And youtube is crazy, I sync'd it up to my iphone and I'm browsing and saving videos on the phone and when I hit play they show up on my tv.
And the remote viera app works so I can do slideshows directly from my phone.
I know this TV is mostly promoted to people who want a bare bones great screen and don't care about the extras, but this is some pretty futuristic stuff from where I'm coming from.
I installed Plex on my mac and the TV is seeing videos via DLNA. Pretty cool stuff.
I'm just dying to go buy an actual blu-ray disk so I can really see what's going on!
But I have ZERO interest in buying a panasonic smart pen and writing notes on the screen!
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Got my 42s60 shipped from ABT yesterday. I have little experience w/ HD or plasmas, but it looks pretty damn great to me.
And while it doesn't have the complete homepage/viera tools, it does more than I need it to. Netflix, Hulu, Vudu, Amazon, with a pretty slick interface. Better than the internet interface on the blu-ray BDT-220 I also bought. And youtube is crazy, I sync'd it up to my iphone and I'm browsing and saving videos on the phone and when I hit play they show up on my tv.
And the remote viera app works so I can do slideshows directly from my phone.
I know this TV is mostly promoted to people who want a bare bones great screen and don't care about the extras, but this is some pretty futuristic stuff from where I'm coming from.
I installed Plex on my mac and the TV is seeing videos via DLNA. Pretty cool stuff.
I'm just dying to go buy an actual blu-ray disk so I can really see what's going on!
But I have ZERO interest in buying a panasonic smart pen and writing notes on the screen!
Ordered my TCP65s60 yesterday from ABT...$1497 no tax, free shipping. Amazon had it for the same price two days ago, and now it's $1695 there plus tax. CaspianM brought my attention to this TV from another thread, where I was having problems with the 65" Vizio M650VSE, so I'm hoping this is worth the replacement (chose it over a Samsung)
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Ordered my TCP65s60 yesterday from ABT...$1497 no tax, free shipping. Amazon had it for the same price two days ago, and now it's $1695 there plus tax. CaspianM brought my attention to this TV from another thread, where I was having problems with the 65" Vizio M650VSE, so I'm hoping this is worth the replacement (chose it over a Samsung)
Anyone picked up one of these S60s who also owns a Kuro? I have been out of the loop for a couple years and want something to use in my office which will primarily be used at night time (low light). I have a couple 101FDs already, so I would like a set that is 'somewhat' comparable to those without breaking the bank. Seems like the S60 could work well?
Hi guys... shopping for a new tv, and i really like the s60. i've never owned a plasma before, and i've been having trouble understanding some things about Hz and motion smoothing. i'm sure this is probably one of the most common questions on this forum, but after days of reading i'm still kinda confused, so here goes:
does the 600Hz drive on this tv have anything to do with motion interpolation? if not, does this model even have any motion interpolation features?
on all previous lcds i've owned, i've made sure to disable any interpolation feature because i simply don't like the look of the soap opera effect or the idea of the tv artificially creating frames that weren't in the original source. in making the transition to plasma, i've gathered that plasma will look smoother than lcd just by virtue of how the tech works without any picture processing. is this true?
given that i don't like the look of SOE, what are the key things to be aware of in plasma vs lcd. is SOE even a thing with plasma at all? what are the other common things i should be aware of in switching from lcd to plasma?
aside from all the above nonsense, my top priority for buying a new tv is picture quality. deep blacks, nice colors, full 1080p. i don't care about any smart tv features, and i don't need any picture processing beyond what's in the original source signal. the 50s60 is currently going for $700 at best buy here. is this the best picture $700 can currently buy? is there another model/brand i should check out before taking the plunge?
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Disappointing but not unexpected. I don't know why Panasonic can't provide this basic program info for OTA antenna users. Otherwise excellent pic quality, but lack of a very nice and basic feature that other manufacturers such as Samsung and LG provide.
If Im not mistaken Samsung still uses TVGuide (outside service) for programming which I believe they have to pay for......Panasonic may not just see the value in it........
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If Im not mistaken Samsung still uses TVGuide (outside service) for programming which I believe they have to pay for......Panasonic may not just see the value in it........
I had thought that a lot of program info was contained in the digital signal, free of charge. I believe it was one of the advantages that was mentioned when the signals went digital a few years back, but not sure.
There was some study done in 2011 that revealed that only 15% of the households with a TV use an antenna to get their signal - the other 85% of households use cable or satellite or internet based services (which have their own guide data and program information) so it's likely that most TV makers don't feel the need for the additional expense of making their TVs capable of retrieving guide data and/or program information since so few households would actually use it.
@Mike Sanders, no motion interpolation in this set at all. (nothing to disable) If you can control light in your viewing environment, the 50S60 is great bang for the buck with superb picture quality.
in researching today, i came across a lot of people talking about panasonic plasmas having image retention issues. do any s60 owners here have any issues with IR?
also, real world experience, how much of an issue is image retention in current plasmas. are people blowing this all out of proportion because its the internet, or is this a legitimate concern? will watching espn for 2 hours really cause ticker/logo retention? does watching movies with black letterboxing or 4:3 shoes with side pillars cause a problem? i was almost all set to get a plasma until i started reading about this. is this something i'd need to be constantly vigilant/paranoid about?
If you really really abuse the set by watching say a 4x3 channel for 8 hours a day for a month straight or a channel with a really bad logo without varying your content, you may get some IR. If you vary your content it's usually not a problem. I've played Diablo3 for hours on end + watched several NBA games along with my usual TV shows + movies and no hints of IR yet.
My older TC-P42S2 did exhibit some IR from watching a TON of baseball from the score logo, but only was visible on gray or light backgrounds, but it's gone now. Only way to know for sure if you will have IR issues is to get a set and watch what you usually watch.
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I had thought that a lot of program info was contained in the digital signal, free of charge. I believe it was one of the advantages that was mentioned when the signals went digital a few years back, but not sure.
basic information does get passed along OTA, what most people are looking for is a guide\gui so that they can bring it up and see what is playing on other channels.......As Randy stated there just isnt enough demand for it for Panasonic to all of a sudden start implementing it. If a guide is important to you then its time for a different TV or a device that will have that functionality for you.......
Sorry for the confusion Ph8te--I was framing my answer in response to TylerSC's original question about (seemingly) basic program info, not a comprehensive channel guide
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... have added program info to the new menu interface. Like Samsung does when you press Info on the remote, you get a brief description of the program being viewed. Panasonic normally in the past has not offered this feature. Otherwise great plasma TVs.
I don't know if this has been answered, but is this like last year's Panny's where the optical audio out only passes stereo or does it pass 5.1? I ask because I'm interested in this and the Sonos soundbar, which only has an optical in.
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