Originally Posted by PlasmaPZ80U
How does one know if they are sensitive to input lag or not? I play a ton of PS3 and Xbox 360 shooters and some racing sims, but mainly single-player (not online or split-screen). I didn't get the ST60 mainly because of cost but at the back of my mind, input lag was a concern based on CNET's reviews of the S60 and ST60. Also, the CNET review made it sound like the two had black levels almost the same, which might be accurate since most people talking about the S60 here don't have meters/software capable of measuring MLL accurately on these sets. I have seen the S64 vs ST60 comparison thread, but it has no measurements (only screenshots) and subjective evaluations and I'm not sure both sets were calibrated to match each other in light output and color, which is what CNET does in any review/comparison to level the playing ground (the calibrators in the VE shootout did the same).
I think the main reason there is less objective info/actual measurements on the S60 vs. the ST60 is that most people who invest in professional calibrations or meters/software tend to get higher end sets like the ST/VT/ZT series (especially the latter two).
IT really depends on the game. Console shooters tend to run a low frame rates compared to PC games, and in order to keep tearing to a minimum they use triple buffering, this introduces some latency on it's own. If you have ever played uncharted 2 or 3, you will be familiar with control delay.
Some games its not really noticeable, bioshock infinite for example. But in battlefield 3 it makes it (for me at least) almost unplayable. When using it as a PC monitor, it is just awful. Normally when you move the mouse, it has a 1:1 feeling to it. You move your hand and the cursor moves at the same rate. With the larger delay though, you can feel the cursor lagging behind. Its just awful.
As for black levels. I hear they certainly measure lower on the ST series. But how low do you really need them? At night, a fully black screen is just the tiniest bit lighter black than the black bezzel on my s60, something I have to look specifically for. And as soon as you get anything brighter in that scene, that blows out the blacks anyway and you can't tell the difference. It's a number for people to get their jollys off on.
They also say that the set is brighter, which is certainly important for many people. And obviously more accurate colours, and the ability to display more shades of colour are great too. It is no question a better set for movies and TV, but at the s60/64 price point.... I dont see the need haha.
You can waste your money on a Bugatti Veyron, or still go dang fast is a Nissan GT-R, and get a full back seat and trunk while your at it for 1/20th the cost