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post #4831 of 7593 Old 10-24-2013, 10:42 PM
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Also, do new plasmas let off less heat than they used to? This thing doesn't seem to get all that hot. The buzz/hum is super faint. It's also really slim and light compared to my 2008 panny. Really satisfied so far.


edit: sorry, i have another question too. During setup it found my wifi connection so it's connected to my network. am i able to play music from a pc in a different room through the network on the tv?
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fairchid can you post the latest calibration settings for custom mode,,,,
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So, I'm getting this static of dancing red, green, and blue pixels everywhere. I thought it was the HDMI cable, but I've tried a handful now and gotten the same result. Thought it was the Xbox, but I tried the other input with my PC, and that does it too. It doesn't seem to be interference on the signal, either. If it were, feeding 480p would result in bigger discolored pixels chunks, but nope, still single pixels. There's also scanline-like bars. It's worse with certain colors and patterns, and worst on black. See below, and notice how they form almost a perfect box, overlaying a certain part of the content that was being fed in:

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What's the consensus, defective set? Between this and the line bleed (which is getting worse, it seems - very noticeable in normal content) and the fact that I had two UT50 sets that got returned, I gotta say that I'm quickly losing my fondness for Panasonic plasmas...

Does it happen with OTA content? That would be the best test to eliminate any HDMI, AV, or other input distortion.
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Just got my s60 home and set it up and turned it on and was SO dissapointed with it. The screen was so dark I could barely see it. And thennnn.... I remembered someone mentioned c.a.t.s. in the thread and turned it off and WALLAH. So far I'm happy I saved the 400 extra to get the st60 considering the difference in input lag too however the real test will be how it looks in the sunny room tomorrow. So far I'm happy.

CATS might be more useful if you could control the minimum and maximum light control settings. My old Samsung LED had those options so I found it useful, but I basically roll with the same settings on the S64 for daytime and nighttime viewing. It seems to work well for me in both environments.

Maybe people are just nit-picky but I don't hear any buzzing unless my ear is within a few inches of the TV, and with a 65" set I am never going to watch the TV at that distance. My PS3 and my refrigerator make more noise that than faint TV buzzing, which again, is barely audible.

Heat is also a non-issue, in my opinion. I've gotten up close to my screen a few times and it's barely getting warm. Several factors can come into play that might make your set release more heat, but mine isn't heating my room as some claim their plasmas do.

I agree with your assessment. Although I have the S64 (the S60 with the anti-reflective filter of the ST60), I also struggled to decide whether to go with this TV or step up to the ST60. But I couldn't afford the 65" so I would have had to go with the 60" which was reasonable. But I don't need 3D. And I like that the S64 has lower lag, although I am not a gamer, really. For me, the great picture and six Internet apps are enough to fulfill my needs.
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Just got my s60 home and set it up and turned it on and was SO dissapointed with it. The screen was so dark I could barely see it. And thennnn.... I remembered someone mentioned c.a.t.s. in the thread and turned it off and WALLAH. So far I'm happy I saved the 400 extra to get the st60 considering the difference in input lag too however the real test will be how it looks in the sunny room tomorrow. So far I'm happy.

Glad you're now able to enjoy your new tv. Just want to make one correction for you. Wallah is not a word. It is Voila which is from the French and is apparently a contraction of vois la and basically mean see there. You used it correctly but spelled it wrongly. I know, I'm a bit of an English Nazi but if no one ever corrects anyone else eventually we all grow the poorer for it.

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Glad you're now able to enjoy your new tv. Just want to make one correction for you. Wallah is not a word. It is Voila which is from the French and is apparently a contraction of vois la and basically mean see there. You used it correctly but spelled it wrongly. I know, I'm a bit of an English Nazi but if no one ever corrects anyone else eventually we all grow the poorer for it.

Shouldn't you have spelled "Detroit" correctly then? smile.gif
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Glad you're now able to enjoy your new tv. Just want to make one correction for you. Wallah is not a word. It is Voila which is from the French and is apparently a contraction of vois la and basically mean see there. You used it correctly but spelled it wrongly. I know, I'm a bit of an English Nazi but if no one ever corrects anyone else eventually we all grow the poorer for it.

Shouldn't you have spelled "Detroit" correctly then? smile.gif

Zing! It's not an AV forum, but a grammar forum. My car forum is even worse, but actually a good to be full of grammar Nazis as most owners are twenty-something kids that don't capitalize, punctuate, or spell as they grew up texting. Hell, someone even razzed me for double-spacing after periods! (I'm old school - learned to type on an IBM Selectric.)
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Zing! It's not an AV forum, but a grammar forum. My car forum is even worse, but actually a good to be full of grammar Nazis as most owners are twenty-something kids that don't capitalize, punctuate, or spell as they grew up texting. Hell, someone even razzed me for double-spacing after periods! (I'm old school - learned to type on an IBM Selectric.)

I am 26, and texting didn't come about until college. We certainly didn't grow up with it, was more of the instant messaging generation smile.gif

Was all full sentences for us, at least within my circle of friends.

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Accidentally quoted instead of editing.
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I am 26, and texting didn't come about until college. We certainly didn't grow up with it, was more of the instant messaging generation smile.gif

Was all full sentences for us.

That is not a full sentence, but a phrase. The subject pronoun is missing. (And you forgot the period in the previous sentence; plus it is a run-on sentence as the second part of the sentence doesn't follow the first part correctly.) wink.gif

Here's how I would have phrased it:
We certainly didn't grow up with it, was but were more of the instant messaging generation.
It was all full sentences for us.
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For those with issues with the Wii (not Wii U) using the component cable, I can test that out on my 50" S60 if you tell me what to look for. I did attach the large ferrite core to the end of the component cable near the TV (before the point in splits into 5 cables).

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Here's how I would have phrased it:
We certainly didn't grow up with it, was but were more of the instant messaging generation.
It was all full sentences for us.

Not even sure why I'm replying, but there shouldn't be a comma in your correction.

To keep it more on topic, does anyone have any leads on where to obtain the 42" version of this in the US? Looks like I missed the boat on the Sears deal from summer.
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Shouldn't you have spelled "Detroit" correctly then? smile.gif

BIG difference between intentionally taking poetic license and making up a sound a like word because you're unsure how to properly use it. I grew up in Detroit and certainly know how to spell it. I prefer the username DtroitPunk as I've never seen anyone else use it.

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I bought a s64 from costco, however, in the setting menu, there is a place you can name your TV. The default name is s60 instead of s64. Is it normal? Could someone check theirs?
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The sad part is, I knew that one. It's like when you are so god with the theire, there, they're, but use the wrong one. doh!

still liking my tv but it wasn't sunny today so i didn't get to see how it was in the daylight/bright room. I don't know if i find this tv a little dark or if it just seems that way when i come from a 27" LED bright monitor and then go sit at the tv. i guess it can be turned up a tad although the brightness doesn't seem to make the hugest difference. is the st60 considerably brighter?
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That is not a full sentence, but a phrase. The subject pronoun is missing. (And you forgot the period in the previous sentence; plus it is a run-on sentence as the second part of the sentence doesn't follow the first part correctly.) wink.gif

Here's how I would have phrased it:
We certainly didn't grow up with it, was but were more of the instant messaging generation.
It was all full sentences for us.

It was not my intention to type a fully grammatically correct sentence, but thank you for the correction. I will take it under advisement.
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BIG difference between intentionally taking poetic license and making up a sound a like word because you're unsure how to properly use it. I grew up in Detroit and certainly know how to spell it. I prefer the username DtroitPunk as I've never seen anyone else use it.

You are the Grammar Nazi are you not? Why do you get to pick and choose the grammatical rules you follow?
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The S60 seems to fit my needs perfectly. I'm really close to pulling the trigger I was just hoping someone could weight in on the advantages/disadvantages between this and the Samsung F5300 series. They seem fairly similar in price/features but I can't really seem to find anywhere a comprehensive review on the F5300. I'm guessing most of you with an S60 have probably looked in to the F5300 and just wondering what you noticed between the two.hCWpp


There are plenty of threads comparing these two sets. Overall, the S60 is probably your best bet.


http://www.avsforum.com/t/1493958/samsung-f5350-series-f5350-vs-s60/0_100


http://www.avsforum.com/t/1496349/samsung-64f5300-vs-panasonic-65s60/0_100



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The VT60 and ST60 has an area in the regular settings menu that shows the Hours Used (learned about it in the VT60 thread). Maybe the S60 has the same feature.

On my ST60, i press Menu > scroll down to Help > select Version > then on the line that says Status4 the hours are shown after the letter. Hit Menu twice to exit when you're done.

Mine currently reads A0018-0000 which means it has 18 hours on it. It was at zero when the delivery guys were here, and i've been watching it climb over the past few days and so far is accurate.

See if the S60 has the same method.

It does.

Press Exit to exit rather than 2 Menu presses.
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Press Exit to exit rather than 2 Menu presses.

Yeah, that what I always do to exit any menu (or smart apps) in a single step.

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I just bought a 65S64 and I noticed that the buzzing from bright images is considerably louder than the VT60 that I previously had. Are many of you experiencing this from your S60/S64? My build date is March 2013.
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I got two of these for my HT setup (TV, HTiB, Subwoofer, Various Video Game Consoles, Cable STB, etc.). I got them for $16 each and for surge protection purposes primarily. However, it also has some kind of clean power feature. Does that have any noticeable effect on picture or sound (good or bad)? I was also looking at surge protectors from Belkin and they do had a similar feature.

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Looks like a quality surge protector but I wouldnt expect anything from the "clean power" feature.

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I just bought a 65S64 and I noticed that the buzzing from bright images is considerably louder than the VT60 that I previously had. Are many of you experiencing this from your S60/S64? My build date is March 2013.

What picture mode are you using? You may want to cut the brightness a bit.



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Pathetic that two straight years now panny made some 42 and 46 inchers that were out practically 2 days then they stopped making them and they don't even show UP anywhere as ever even been out.
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Pathetic that two straight years now panny made some 42 and 46 inchers that were out practically 2 days then they stopped making them and they don't even show UP anywhere as ever even been out.

Yeah, I kind of stopped browsing these boards / tv shopping for a couple of months, and I just found out about the 42" s60 going for $400 at Sears (also some deal with $400 + $100 gift card too!?).

So sick as I really want 2-3 smaller plasmas for a sports bar / game room setup.

Not to mention that the S64 65" is now hard to get ahold of too!

Crazy, that I could have bought 3 x 42" S60 + a 65" S64 for right around $2500
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yeah I got stuck thinking I was definitely keeping my pioneer elites, but tvs keep bothering my head and I know a smaller size will bother it less, so I thought about trying to s60 and I don't even see any used ones for sale or anything. Blah. And indeed what a great price. for that I could have kept an elite and got the s60 and had them both to switch between. I usually know about the big time deals on tvs, but the s60 was not one I had eben considering and I didn't think pioneer would annoyingly get rid of them so quick, anyway.

Did the S64 ever have smaller sizes?
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Did the S64 ever have smaller sizes?

No, 50" and 65" only from the start as far as I know.

42" S64 would be amazing though...
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I got two of these for my HT setup (TV, HTiB, Subwoofer, Various Video Game Consoles, Cable STB, etc.). I got them for $16 each and for surge protection purposes primarily. However, it also has some kind of clean power feature. Does that have any noticeable effect on picture or sound (good or bad)? I was also looking at surge protectors from Belkin and they do had a similar feature.

For $19, I doubt it does more than protect against power spikes.

Audiophiles talk about power line conditioners that supposedly lower the noise level (power hum) from an outlet and I suppose cost a small fortune as most audiophile stuff does.
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When they were on the 30 series, they had a 42 inch ST. Too bad they stopped making 42 or 46. In fact I think they even had a 46 in the GT30. Not sure, but seems like it. I actually temporarily owned a 42ST30, which was very good, but they made so many huge advances between the 30 and 50 series.
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