Originally Posted by HDTimeShifter
...The pixel orbiter setting is confusing. It only has options for On or Auto, no Off. I looked up my printed version of the eManual, and it does not tell the difference between On and Auto. I'll have to search through this thread, but can anyone save me the trouble and tell me what each means?
Pixel orbiter set to "Auto" is OFF - at least with current firmware.To others re: PQ
- Below is lengthy. Synopsis: I definitely like my 65PS64 better than my 55ST60 and for good reason. The main
diff in PQ I saw: My ST60 had red push I couldn't get rid of trying everything I read in here without trading it for green push. Not saying a pro couldn't get rid of the red push or at least reduce it some. My S64 doesn't have red push. If that handles it for ya', save yourself some time and scroll out.
More details: I haven't seen an S60 so I can't comment on that model. I didn't get to see my 55ST60 at the same time as my 65PS64 due to logistics and space constraints - so no direct comparison IRT.
Also, as stated before, I think some difference is measurable
based on what I've read - or maybe even visible to some knowledgeable cinemaphiles. Though I would like to see which most experts would like in direct comparision; fc99's settings on the S64; D-Nice's settings on the ST60... mask off the bezels to prevent that "tell"... I suppose most COULD spot the ST60 due to the all too common red push - though I doubt that would make them like it better.
ST60ers hold the flames, please. It's a super nice panel too and I know it.With the admitted caveat
that there were a few days delay between viewing the 2: My personal opinion & for my usage: I've definitely gained some things important to me and lost only 3D. I figured I'd only use 3D a few times a year, but who knows. Not gonna re-hash details about the problems I had with 96hz and how I handled the 24p workaround again.fc99's settings are working extremely well on my S64, so I credit that with a lot of why I'm so happy with it.
Also, I admit that my opinion is affected because I lucked out getting a plasma with: No dead pixels, no popping, no buzz that I can hear and no shipping damage whatsoever.
Had my ST60 not started with intermittent problems and had I hired a pro calibration, I think then I might have a different opinion of PQ comparison. But then again, maybe NOT.
During the days it took for the swap, I was frequently apprehensive thinking I was going to have regrets going to a "lower" model line - maybe even setting myself up for that -shoulda' been a self-fulfilling prophecy, etc..?
I'm surprised, but I have no regrets at all.
So glad I took the chance.
I'm early retired (since 2004) and have more time than anything else. As such, I'm a real cheapskate and pinch every penny so I'm obsessed with max bang for the buck on every purchase. With WAY more time than money, if I didn't truly like the S64 better, I would absolutely return it and get something else. Especially due to the following absolutely unnecessary bad customer relations...Why it maybe should have gone sour?:
Sam's reps and supervisors were rude smart asses
regarding refusing to match their own price drop - so at some times I thought it would serve them right to get the panel back and let the sale go anywhere else. It's one thing to say "no", it's quite another to gloat and act cute about it. IOW, some of them were trying to provoke. It seemed to anger one woman that she just couldn't get under my skin. Small win there, but a win nonetheless.
People here say many Sam's employees hate their jobs with a passion. Noted. Still, that sort of customer handling is just wrong
.My point is:
Even during the recurring attempted provocations from Sam's hiring mistakes
, I just couldn't bring myself to return the panel based on principle - though principle almost always takes precedence with me. I just like the panel and PQ too much. I had decided to cancel my membership but keep the panel - but just about then, I was transferred to a super nice gal in "member cancellations" (the first friendly and genuine rep or supervisor I'd spoken with) who immediately made things right. So I ended up keeping the panel and the membership. Unequivocally on the former, provisionally on the latter...
Secondary moral of the story: Don't buy from Sam's. If you do, the only real customer service available is in "member cancellations".
Had I not fallen head over heels for the 65PS64, 60ST60 was next on my short list. I was skeptical enough before receiving my S64, I figured I'd be doing just that by now. But no.
I think I'll just link this post in the future when a non-owner of the S64 says it isn't as great as the other 2 (S60 and ST60).
To add to that purpose, let's add again: D-Nice and other pro's in the shootout agree that an AR filter does NOT detract from PQ AT ALL. That notion is a MYTH