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Does anyone here own this model?


Just picked uo the 60 inch from best buy have been runing slides all day, but my white level and contrast in general doesnt seem so bright or compared to the LED's that u had purchased before returning them.

Roght now I have my pc hooked up to it, ill open a browser window and the whites look bright when its not full screen but as soon as i make it full screen the brightness and contrast of everything turn greyish and not so bright....eco sensor turned off is there something else im missing?

it seems to dim itself like some other sensor
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You seem new to Plasma. What you see is the ABL (autmatic brightness limiter). Google it or search here in the forum for Info.
But your report tells us, that the new F-series below the F-8500 is really like the previous generations in terms of brightness.
So lets hope F8500 will be brighter in Fullscreen.
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Looks black to me. It's got the updated stand not the old flat ones. Bb rep said they started selling it on the 13th. So can I turn this auto dim off?
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Does anybody happen to know if this model uses a pentile display like last years E530?
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I just picked up this set yesterday at my local Best Buy. Hard to beat the $950 price tag for a 60". I had to bump up the cell brightness because it was too dark for me. I copied the settings posted here for the E530 model. I'm going to take advantage of the Reward Zone Silver free calibration after I get it wall mounted.

I watched several hours of basketball last night and I've very happy with the picture quality.
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So how is this display with reflections and daylight viewing... Better than the s60?

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I think I'm going to pick up the 64" model from Amazon this weekend after I take back my Vizio. After looking at this plasma in Best Buy, I can't think of any reason to ever get an LED as they are right now (without spending $1K more). I can have it by the 23rd so we'll see what happens.
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I picked up PN60F5300 today and I think the reflections are going to be a deal breaker. Earlier today it was hardly watchable even with blinds and curtains drawn. Now I just need to decide if I'm going to give a E6500 a try or switch to LED.
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I just picked up the 51" at Best Buy today. Anyone care to share their settings? Also it seems like my stand is slightly crooked. Is that sort of common with these types of stand? I'm going to wall mount it next week but I'm not sure it's worth the hassle of returning.
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Is the F5500 supposed to have the anti-reflective filter?
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Debating if im gonna return this set or not i have until next week, best buy has removed it from the website already for some reason but all im left with is the 60 inch vizio cuz ive tried the sammy 6003 6000 and the sharp 600u and new 650u all had issues or really bad backlighting
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Debating if im gonna return this set or not i have until next week, best buy has removed it from the website already for some reason but all im left with is the 60 inch vizio cuz ive tried the sammy 6003 6000 and the sharp 600u and new 650u all had issues or really bad backlighting

I think you may have to temper your expectations, while you may have had some defective sets, remeber these are not high end panels you are choosing so there is going to be a picture qulity drop. Dont expect the deepest backs with plasma or the greatest uniformity with LCD....The sets you ahve are edge lit, not backlit wink.gif as far as I know, so "backlighting" is not going to be "great" that is untl you start stepping up to the higer end models or the actual backlit sets....Even then you can have issues with clouding etc.........

What are you looking for in picture quality? All plasmas will have some sort of ABL which will limit how "white" white can get on full screen white images......If you want color pop LCD is the way to go, but be rady to deal with Clouding, uniformity issues, and lesser blacks (when compared to Plasma most of the time)......
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I recently got PN60F5300. I found Movie setting is better than Standard. I also implemented below settings for a slightly different TV. Are these recommended for this TV? I will continue playing with these settings - just got it two days ago to replace our 46" Sharp Aquos LCD, which moves to another room

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1409572...d-no-price

Mode - Movie
Cell Light 20
Brightness 50 daytime / 40 for evening and 35 for a dark room (Blacks look amazing at 35!
Contrast 100 daytime / 98 for evening and 93 for a dark room
Sharpness 0
Color 55
R/G Tint 50/50
Color Space - Native
Gamma -1 for night (0 for daytime
Dynamic Contrast - off
Black Tone - Darkest
Flesh Tone - 0
Color Tone - Warm1
Size - Screen Fit
Digital Noise Filter - Off

White Balance Calibration

RO - 21
GO - 25
BO - 22
RG - 20
GG - 25
BG - 23
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I recently got PN60F5300. I found Movie setting is better than Standard. I also implemented below settings for a slightly different TV. Are these recommended for this TV? I will continue playing with these settings - just got it two days ago to replace our 46" Sharp Aquos LCD, which moves to another room

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1409572...d-no-price

Mode - Movie
Cell Light 20
Brightness 50 daytime / 40 for evening and 35 for a dark room (Blacks look amazing at 35!
Contrast 100 daytime / 98 for evening and 93 for a dark room
Sharpness 0
Color 55
R/G Tint 50/50
Color Space - Native
Gamma -1 for night (0 for daytime
Dynamic Contrast - off
Black Tone - Darkest
Flesh Tone - 0
Color Tone - Warm1
Size - Screen Fit
Digital Noise Filter - Off

White Balance Calibration

RO - 21
GO - 25
BO - 22
RG - 20
GG - 25
BG - 23

I'll give them a shot here are my settings right now

My setting for PN51F5500

picture mode Movie
cell light 15
contrast 95
brightnss 46
sharpness 0
color 48
tint 50/50
picture size screen fit
dynaimic contrast off
black tone darker
flesh tone 0
color space native
white balance all 25
gamma 0
motion lighting off
color tone warm2
every thing else auto
black optimizer auto

source directv.

picture mode standard
cell light 15
contrast 90
brightnss 45
sharpness 10
color 49
tint 50/50
picture size screen fit
dynaimic contrast off
black tone darker
flesh tone 0
color space native
white balance all 25
gamma 0
motion lighting off
color tone standard
every thing else auto

source directv.

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PN60E8000 / Directv genie / Panasonic 3D blu-ray Onkyo TX-NR 1030 7.2.4 /Onkyo M-5010 Amplifier for top rear. Bic Acoustech speakers, Bic F12 subs
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PN51F5500 / Directv Genie / Panasonic 3D blu-ray / Onkyo TX-NR 737 5.2.2 Atmos top front Ceiling Speakers
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I recently got PN60F5300. I found Movie setting is better than Standard. I also implemented below settings for a slightly different TV. Are these recommended for this TV? I will continue playing with these settings - just got it two days ago to replace our 46" Sharp Aquos LCD, which moves to another room

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1409572...d-no-price

Mode - Movie
Cell Light 20
Brightness 50 daytime / 40 for evening and 35 for a dark room (Blacks look amazing at 35!
Contrast 100 daytime / 98 for evening and 93 for a dark room
Sharpness 0
Color 55
R/G Tint 50/50
Color Space - Native
Gamma -1 for night (0 for daytime
Dynamic Contrast - off
Black Tone - Darkest
Flesh Tone - 0
Color Tone - Warm1
Size - Screen Fit
Digital Noise Filter - Off

White Balance Calibration

RO - 21
GO - 25
BO - 22
RG - 20
GG - 25
BG - 23

Using settings from another model is probably not a great idea. You are better off using the default Movie mode.

I will be calibrating my 51 inch 5300 this weekend, and I will share my settings
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Using settings from another model is probably not a great idea. You are better off using the default Movie mode.

I will be calibrating my 51 inch 5300 this weekend, and I will share my settings
you are correct because all panel and viewing enviroments are not equal. but its fun to see what we all come up with i think that PN51F5500 and PN51F5300 have the same panel not sure if picture setting are the same either.

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I just picked up this set yesterday at my local Best Buy. Hard to beat the $950 price tag for a 60". I had to bump up the cell brightness because it was too dark for me. I copied the settings posted here for the E530 model. I'm going to take advantage of the Reward Zone Silver free calibration after I get it wall mounted.

I watched several hours of basketball last night and I've very happy with the picture quality.

Saltydogg, did you get the calibration done by Best Buy? If so, could you post the settings? I'm interested to know how far off I am. Thanks.
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Been running slides while at work or gone over night and watching full-screen content since Monday, and the picture seems to be settling in nicely. I'm going to keep this up while I'm at work and or spending the night elsewhere, just letting it settle in even more into next week.

 

Such a great bargain TV. These and the LG plasmas this year HAVE to be the best TVs under $1,000, easily, and maybe even under $2,000. The brightness has really surprised me so far. Still not searing-level like you see today, but damn bright for most medium-lit rooms. And the sound surprised me as well. Rich and full sound that comes out (using the "Movie" sound setting) But will definitely had external audio shortly to really fill out the room.

 

I had a friend come over and he thought I had a pro calibration done, but told him no. Another friend came by and was sold on it, he is now going to get one next week. When people come over, I'm running the Samsung 1080p plasma demo with the paint spills, color splashes, etc... and it really shines. At the end of the demo, I tell them this isn't even technically 1080p resolution, but they're sold on the spot. The demo does really look good, even with ambient light in the room. Can't imagine what the F8500 looks like running that demo.

 

The pentile screen does take a bit to get used to, but if you're not looking for the pixel arrangement, then you never really notice it. 

 

Only issue I'm having is with my PS3, but it's not really a TV issue, more of the same ol' HDMI handshake problem the PS3 is known for. Starting to piss me off, but I'll be buying a switch soon so the handshake can occur with the switch and not the TV.

 

As far as settings go, did the basics with the WOW disc and added only the 2pt white balance from will7046's settings. No real point without a meter and such to even do the 2pt and even 10pt, but since I'm using Standard Mode, I thought I'd plug in will7046's 2pt and give it a shot, so can't really tell if honed in anything specific.

 

"Standard" picture really makes the colors pop, as anything with Movie mode washed out everything completely. Even if I took a meter to it, I highly doubt I could like anything "Movie" has to offer. Only thing I really did different, is I added 25 to the Sharpness, where most people's settings are all at 0. 25 seem to be the right amount of sharpness, especially using the Verizon Fios Guide and watching the text sharpen up with a bit of clarity and brightness. And also chose Low for Dynamic Contrast which added the right amount of contrast when comparing whites to blacks. Off was a bit too low and medium was a bit too clippy for the highs. Low seemed like a perfect fit. Almost went with a -3 for Gamma, since it would be closer to the 2.2 reference level, but felt it was adding a little too much darkness where it didn't need to be. -2 feels just right, with -1 and 0 being too far off the natural gamma scale.

 

Can't wait to get the F8500 and get a pro calibration to see what I'm really missing, but since this bargain set is around $800 bucks, a pro calibration is definitely not worth it as of now since I'm pretty satisfied with the results in my first 5 days with the set. Big test comes Sunday for Game of Thrones night when I'm expecting 4-5 guests who have not seen the set yet.

 

--Picture menu
Mode: Standard
Cell Light: 20
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 43
Sharpness: 25
Color: 50
Tint: G50/R50

Picture size submenu:
Picture Size: Screen Fit

PIP: Off

Advanced settings submenu:
Dynamic contrast: Low
Black tone: Off
Flesh tone: 0
RGB Only Mode: Off
Color space: Native
White Balance: [see below]
10p White Balance: Off
Gamma: -2
Motion Lighting: Off [grayed out]

White balance submenu:
R-Offset: 29
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 27
R-Gain: 24
G-Gain: 25
B-Gain: 22
 

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This TV seems to be the best candidate for what we are looking for: 60-65" plasma, energy efficient (for a plasma at least), "dumb", non-3D, name brand...

Question time:

Is the PN60F5300AFXZA the same? The suffix "AFXZA" being different than the thread title...

Is $679.99 a good price, with free delivery?

Our young kids game with the PS3, mostly the Move or motion ones... Think that might be problematic on this TV?

Thanks much!
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This TV seems to be the best candidate for what we are looking for: 60-65" plasma, energy efficient (for a plasma at least), "dumb", non-3D, name brand...

Question time:

Is the PN60F5300AFXZA the same? The suffix "AFXZA" being different than the thread title...

Is $679.99 a good price, with free delivery?

Our young kids game with the PS3, mostly the Move or motion ones... Think that might be problematic on this TV?

Thanks much!

I just got this plasma on Tuesday from Best Buy for $829, $679 is a fantastic price, I believe Sears was running this tv on Memorial Day at $679. There is two versions of this TV: AFXZA and BFXZA, not quite sure what the difference is other than there is no new firmware available for BFXZA yet. When I purchased mine, the Best Buy website listed the tv as AFXZA but a BFXZA was delivered with a build date of 4/2014. I am no longer a gamer but I'm sure the PS3 will look great. Find the thread for Will's settings on this tv on avs and you will be very happy.
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I just got this plasma on Tuesday from Best Buy for $829, $679 is a fantastic price, I believe Sears was running this tv on Memorial Day at $679. There is two versions of this TV: AFXZA and BFXZA, not quite sure what the difference is other than there is no new firmware available for BFXZA yet. When I purchased mine, the Best Buy website listed the tv as AFXZA but a BFXZA was delivered with a build date of 4/2014. I am no longer a gamer but I'm sure the PS3 will look great. Find the thread for Will's settings on this tv on avs and you will be very happy.

Tom, thank you for chiming-in. Much appreciated. My only concern was the gaming, which we only do a few times a year, at least at the current ages of the kids. I didn't want to break the bank on what might be an interim TV, until OLED is primetime or 4k programming has arrived and is mainstream. I've got a GoPro with 4K though...

Oh, it's Sears alright. I made sure it was a new unit, and it clearly stated so....

Just submitted my order on the Discover card and set next Friday (June 6th) for the free delivery, with 2 hour window.

Total, with tax, less than $750:

Merchandise Subtotal$679.99
Delivery Charge FREE
Other Fees$ 5.00 Pre tax Subtotal $679.99Tax$59.50 Total $744.49
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Seems like a solid deal for a 60" no frills plasma. Happy camper with this order...
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This TV seems to be the best candidate for what we are looking for: 60-65" plasma, energy efficient (for a plasma at least), "dumb", non-3D, name brand...

Question time:

Is the PN60F5300AFXZA the same? The suffix "AFXZA" being different than the thread title...

Is $679.99 a good price, with free delivery?

Our young kids game with the PS3, mostly the Move or motion ones... Think that might be problematic on this TV?

Thanks much!

Idk, you tell me...

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Been running slides while at work or gone over night and watching full-screen content since Monday, and the picture seems to be settling in nicely. I'm going to keep this up while I'm at work and or spending the night elsewhere, just letting it settle in even more into next week.

Such a great bargain TV. These and the LG plasmas this year HAVE to be the best TVs under $1,000, easily, and maybe even under $2,000. The brightness has really surprised me so far. Still not searing-level like you see today, but damn bright for most medium-lit rooms. And the sound surprised me as well. Rich and full sound that comes out (using the "Movie" sound setting) But will definitely had external audio shortly to really fill out the room.

I had a friend come over and he thought I had a pro calibration done, but told him no. Another friend came by and was sold on it, he is now going to get one next week. When people come over, I'm running the Samsung 1080p plasma demo with the paint spills, color splashes, etc... and it really shines. At the end of the demo, I tell them this isn't even technically 1080p resolution, but they're sold on the spot. The demo does really look good, even with ambient light in the room. Can't imagine what the F8500 looks like running that demo.

The pentile screen does take a bit to get used to, but if you're not looking for the pixel arrangement, then you never really notice it. 

Only issue I'm having is with my PS3, but it's not really a TV issue, more of the same ol' HDMI handshake problem the PS3 is known for. Starting to piss me off, but I'll be buying a switch soon so the handshake can occur with the switch and not the TV.

As far as settings go, did the basics with the WOW disc and added only the 2pt white balance from will7046's settings. No real point without a meter and such to even do the 2pt and even 10pt, but since I'm using Standard Mode, I thought I'd plug in will7046's 2pt and give it a shot, so can't really tell if honed in anything specific.

"Standard" picture really makes the colors pop, as anything with Movie mode washed out everything completely. Even if I took a meter to it, I highly doubt I could like anything "Movie" has to offer. Only thing I really did different, is I added 25 to the Sharpness, where most people's settings are all at 0. 25 seem to be the right amount of sharpness, especially using the Verizon Fios Guide and watching the text sharpen up with a bit of clarity and brightness. And also chose Low for Dynamic Contrast which added the right amount of contrast when comparing whites to blacks. Off was a bit too low and medium was a bit too clippy for the highs. Low seemed like a perfect fit. Almost went with a -3 for Gamma, since it would be closer to the 2.2 reference level, but felt it was adding a little too much darkness where it didn't need to be. -2 feels just right, with -1 and 0 being too far off the natural gamma scale.

Can't wait to get the F8500 and get a pro calibration to see what I'm really missing, but since this bargain set is around $800 bucks, a pro calibration is definitely not worth it as of now since I'm pretty satisfied with the results in my first 5 days with the set. Big test comes Sunday for Game of Thrones night when I'm expecting 4-5 guests who have not seen the set yet.

--Picture menu

Mode: Standard

Cell Light: 20

Contrast: 100

Brightness: 43

Sharpness: 25

Color: 50

Tint: G50/R50


Picture size submenu:

Picture Size: Screen Fit


PIP: Off


Advanced settings submenu:

Dynamic contrast: Low

Black tone: Off

Flesh tone: 0

RGB Only Mode: Off

Color space: Native

White Balance: [see below]

10p White Balance: Off

Gamma: -2

Motion Lighting: Off [grayed out]


White balance submenu:

R-Offset: 29

G-Offset: 25

B-Offset: 27

R-Gain: 24

G-Gain: 25

B-Gain: 22

 

I just recently bought this TV and i am waiting for it to arrive.
I wanted to know where did you get the slides from and what setting was the TV on for the slides?
I own a Panasonic 55ST60 and D-Nice had settings for the television for the slides but i am not sure what to do with the new PN60F5300.
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I just recently bought this TV and i am waiting for it to arrive.
I wanted to know where did you get the slides from and what setting was the TV on for the slides?
I own a Panasonic 55ST60 and D-Nice had settings for the television for the slides but i am not sure what to do with the new PN60F5300.

Just google burn in slides. I think I got them off the blu-ray forums. They're in these forums as well. Just search break-in slides AVS and you'll see a bunch of links. They're like 10 different colored slides of colors. I just lowered cell light, contrast down to 40, brightness below 50 and sharpness at 0. Probably doesn't matter as much if you're not going to do a full calibration, but I did it anyway to break it in and age everything evenly. Watching Jimmy Fallon now, and the picture looks really good with the settings I used. Feels like its settling in nicely. Gonna start watching letterboxed content and see if there's any issues after one movie.

 

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Was the picture terrible out of the box for your sets? I couldn't get over how bad the picture in the store was. I got a smoking deal on this set so I got it in hopes the posted settings will give the outstanding pictures others are raving about.

BTW, The only slides I am finding are the solid color ones. The pictures you posted would be great for testing setting changes. Never mind, I see now. You used the colored slides and then took pictures off the TV after the fact. I thought the pictures you posed were the slides....
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--Picture menu
Mode: Standard
Cell Light: 20
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 43
Sharpness: 25
Color: 50
Tint: G50/R50

Picture size submenu:
Picture Size: Screen Fit

PIP: Off

Advanced settings submenu:
Dynamic contrast: Low
Black tone: Off
Flesh tone: 0
RGB Only Mode: Off
Color space: Native
White Balance: [see below]
10p White Balance: Off
Gamma: -2
Motion Lighting: Off [grayed out]

White balance submenu:
R-Offset: 29
G-Offset: 25
B-Offset: 27
R-Gain: 24
G-Gain: 25
B-Gain: 22
I have noticed you did not post the color temp you're using. Is it Warm (1 or 2)?
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well thing,No real point without a meter and such to even do the 2pt and even 10pt, but since I'm using Standard Mode, I thought I'd plug in will7046's 2pt and give it a shot, so can't really tell if honed in anything specific.thanks [IMG]http://*******/xGWw1O[/IMG]
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Why would anyone use standard mode and not Cinema on this tv? If you're not using Cinema/Warm temp, it's a waste of time to even calibrate it.

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Did anyone else purchase this tv recently at Sears when they were on sale? I have the pink tint issue and excessive buzzing, I was thinking of taking it back or exchanging, but I looked at my online statement and it says “this item is not eligible for return”. I've never heard of Sears not accepting returns on tvs, and I don't remember anything saying this when I ordered it. Their website says 30 days on electronics. Can they really refuse to accept a return on a defective product? I'm stumped.
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