Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma
It is getting close also........
People forget this. There really isn't much to improve upon, especially since this set now has added brightness and improved clarity, in addition to contrast that is near reference. We've got sets this year that are pretty much equal to a 9G Kuro and we might be done with big improvements in picture quality.
There was a wall at Magnolia with the GT50, E8000 plasma and LED, and the new F8500. The biggest difference watching a feed between all of them was the brightness, with the F8500 having less abl than the other two plasmas, and being close in brightness to the LED.
The biggest difference people are noticing with the F8500 is brightness and the LED look to the picture, a crispness that is part of the new pixel structure. This is part of the reason why I'm more interested in this set than the Panasonics. Unless Panny changes the look of the image, something that really can't be measured with equipment, I'm not too interested in upgrading from a Pioneer. With Sammy, it's almost like I'm changing to an LED or an OLED because of the unique look to the image that it produces.
The most striking part of the ZT60 v. Kuro demo at the Panasonic event the other week was the difference in shades of gradation. It wasn't black level. That tells me that black level is almost maxed out, since anything above 0fL is going to have some slight glow to it, so it's almost irrelevant.