Official Samsung PNxxF8500 Series Discussion Thread [No Street Price Talk] - Page 163 - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #4861 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 08:38 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Ph8te's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,172
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 194 Post(s)
Liked: 247
Quote:
Originally Posted by fierce_gt View Post

i'll try it if i can find it, but i'm not seeing it anywhere... if it's not on the canadian website i'm not gonna risk it being a US only update though.

Wise decision let someone else be the guinea pig, for those taht have thier sets calibrated, wait for someone who doest to do it so that if the settigns to get reset youll know ahead of time. The update file is dated for today, so sammy is pushing out these firmware fixes quickly, unfortunately the notes are the same as the past 3\2 updates so who knows what this is for or does. Even when the fix does come I dont see it being labled correctly.
Ph8te is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4862 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 08:44 AM
 
pieandchips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,944
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 168
Didn't Robert say the 'fix' update would only install via the automatic online update mechanism?
pieandchips is offline  
post #4863 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 08:49 AM
Newbie
 
bonepile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: East coast USA
Posts: 7
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
As I am sure you all know ...


Upgrade File(USB type) (Firmware) (ver.1103.0)

This firmware is for TV Model(s): PDP F8500

The version is 1103.0

This firmware update will improve the following:

- Improves picture quality.

- Supports more MSO in OnTV feature.

- Enhances Voice Recognition feature.
bonepile is offline  
post #4864 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 08:57 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Addicted Member
 
Cleveland Plasma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 11,724
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 117 Post(s)
Liked: 396
Quote:
Originally Posted by schnura View Post


My money's on LG and Samsung launching curved 55" OLED by July 2013. LG with white OLED and colored filters and Samsung with dedicated individual RGB OLED. Anyone want to give me odds?
25/75 that they do not get released again this year "in full production".
Cleveland Plasma is offline  
post #4865 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 09:12 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Ph8te's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,172
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 194 Post(s)
Liked: 247
Quote:
Originally Posted by pieandchips View Post

Didn't Robert say the 'fix' update would only install via the automatic online update mechanism?

he did, but thats what he was told, and things can always change......I would wait until he hears back from his Samsung rep and relays that to the forums.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

25/75 that they do not get released again this year "in full production".

I woulld agree with this, I think we may see limited release like LG is starting to do in South Korea, but "full production" I would point towards 2014\2015, I hope I am wrong though wink.gif
Ph8te is online now  
post #4866 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 09:15 AM
AVS Special Member
 
airgas1998's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 42degsN 92degsW
Posts: 2,156
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 95
robert, has said there will be a few samsung engineers at the shootout this week, in which he intends to ask about what's going on with the fw fix.

Habit Forming....Wallet Burning Hobby....

64" Samsung F8500 Plasma
55" Samsung B8500 Full Array Lcd
Channel Master Dvr
Onkyo 818
Crown xls-2000
Sony Blu-Ray 790
Svs Ultra Towers/Center, Energy Rc-50 Surround
Svs Pb-13 Ultra Sub
airgas1998 is offline  
post #4867 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 09:29 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Ph8te's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,172
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 194 Post(s)
Liked: 247
Quote:
Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

robert, has said there will be a few samsung engineers at the shootout this week, in which he intends to ask about what's going on with the fw fix.

Jsut another reason to watch the shootout, not that I wasnt going to already wink.gif
Ph8te is online now  
post #4868 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 09:49 AM
AVS Special Member
 
mo949's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 2,646
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 302
Quote:
Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

Dang, Samsung is popping these out like the octomom. what, like three in a week's time.

lol, my old samsung also got lots of updates. It was kind of annoying that they never documented all the changes in a way that you could see what was happening...it was never, "oh we fixed the luminance controls" *install update* and then luminance controls work. It was always this kind of generic list. Some updates definitely changed some picture settings though so a bunch of us stopped doing the updates automatically. In one instance they did a 'forced update' which actually overrode your user preference 'do not autoupdate' - after that one a bunch of us deleted all our network settings out of the tv since that was the only way we could truly stop them from forcing an update and let us preserve our tv and protect our calibration settings.
mo949 is offline  
post #4869 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 10:02 AM
AVS Special Member
 
airgas1998's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 42degsN 92degsW
Posts: 2,156
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 95
Quote:
Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

lol, my old samsung also got lots of updates. It was kind of annoying that they never documented all the changes in a way that you could see what was happening...it was never, "oh we fixed the luminance controls" *install update* and then luminance controls work. It was always this kind of generic list. Some updates definitely changed some picture settings though so a bunch of us stopped doing the updates automatically. In one instance they did a'forced update' which actually overrode your user preference 'do not autoupdate' - after that one a bunch of us deleted all our network settings out of the tv since that was the only way we could truly stop them from forcing an update and let us preserve our tv and protect our calibration settings.

wow...that's being a little bullish.

Habit Forming....Wallet Burning Hobby....

64" Samsung F8500 Plasma
55" Samsung B8500 Full Array Lcd
Channel Master Dvr
Onkyo 818
Crown xls-2000
Sony Blu-Ray 790
Svs Ultra Towers/Center, Energy Rc-50 Surround
Svs Pb-13 Ultra Sub
airgas1998 is offline  
post #4870 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 10:19 AM
Senior Member
 
endlessender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by icelt View Post

I might even watch that mediocre film again just to see it in 3D.

lol - been thinking the same thing. biggrin.gif

Samsung PN64F8500 (still within return policy window and open minded)
Oppo BDP-93
DirecTV HR-24
Denon AVR 2309-CI
Definitive Technology 5.1 system
Harmony One remote
endlessender is offline  
post #4871 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 10:23 AM
Senior Member
 
JRWalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 475
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 35
The description for the last firmware update Samsung issued for my DLP TV mentioned only sound improvements. The text failed to mention that it completely disabled the PIP feature. Samsung was unwilling to provide a way to remove the firmware update or re-enable the PIP function. The only option was to replace the $300 Main Board.
JRWalker is online now  
post #4872 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 10:27 AM
Senior Member
 
endlessender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinger View Post

Thanks, I haven't seen a 3D blu-ray yet but I do have a 3D player I just got to get my hands on one you've mentioned.. I heard the three you mentioned are incredible..
Any recommendations for 3d blu-ray rental sites?

Unfortunately I don't know a good place to rent 3D blu-ray I usually wait a bit for them to drop in price and/or get BB to price-match Amazon or order from Amazon directly. Unfortunately they tend to be priced at a premium above the non-3D versions. Hoping this will change in the future. Looks like forthcoming Gatsby will be in 3D, continuing the trend for non-sci-fi/fantasy/superhero movies being shot in 3D.

Samsung PN64F8500 (still within return policy window and open minded)
Oppo BDP-93
DirecTV HR-24
Denon AVR 2309-CI
Definitive Technology 5.1 system
Harmony One remote
endlessender is offline  
post #4873 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 10:35 AM
AVS Special Member
 
fierce_gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,082
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 185 Post(s)
Liked: 506
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

Wise decision let someone else be the guinea pig, for those taht have thier sets calibrated, wait for someone who doest to do it so that if the settigns to get reset youll know ahead of time. The update file is dated for today, so sammy is pushing out these firmware fixes quickly, unfortunately the notes are the same as the past 3\2 updates so who knows what this is for or does. Even when the fix does come I dont see it being labled correctly.

well that's just it, i'm not calibrated, i'm under warranty, I've got a solid satisfaction guaranteed return policy to rely on. I don't mind testing it out now that I think I've found a way to produce these 'pops'. I just don't want to install an update that's not for my TV. I don't know if there's any difference between Canadian and American models, but with all the 'smart' features there could be some location sensitive programming.
fierce_gt is offline  
post #4874 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 10:38 AM
AVS Special Member
 
fierce_gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,082
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 185 Post(s)
Liked: 506
Quote:
Originally Posted by pieandchips View Post

Didn't Robert say the 'fix' update would only install via the automatic online update mechanism?

what worries me the most about this is that the update is set to off by default, and obviously wouldn't get pushed through to all the tv sitting in boxes. there has to be some way to get the update if you 'miss' the automatic one.

as for conspiracy theories, it makes sense that they'd want to do this 'secretly' so as to not admit there was a problem to begin with.
fierce_gt is offline  
post #4875 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 10:38 AM
AVS Special Member
 
chunon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Wilmington Ohio
Posts: 4,892
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 58 Post(s)
Liked: 448
Quote:
Originally Posted by endlessender View Post

Unfortunately I don't know a good place to rent 3D blu-ray I usually wait a bit for them to drop in price and/or get BB to price-match Amazon or order from Amazon directly. Unfortunately they tend to be priced at a premium above the non-3D versions. Hoping this will change in the future. Looks like forthcoming Gatsby will be in 3D, continuing the trend for non-sci-fi/fantasy/superhero movies being shot in 3D.

There was one online 3d rental site but required a deposit and I thing the rental fees were a little expensive, hopefully prices drop very reluctant to plop down $30 unless I have seen the movie in 3d and enjoyed it

65VT60
55ST60
Sony BDV-F7 3dbluray/soundbar
Calman Enthusiast
Dish Network with Hopper/Super Joey
chunon is offline  
post #4876 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 10:46 AM
Senior Member
 
endlessender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 19
Just installed 1103. It did something different and said "Optimizing system...this can take more than 2 minutes. Do not turn off, etc."

Interesting.

Let me just say this...

If you watch Hockey. You're going to be very very happy. smile.gif

I'm shocked. Watched the same game I've been testing with every firmware update thus far and ....no pops. Now to test 3D fluctuations.

BTW it did not blow out my settings

Samsung PN64F8500 (still within return policy window and open minded)
Oppo BDP-93
DirecTV HR-24
Denon AVR 2309-CI
Definitive Technology 5.1 system
Harmony One remote
endlessender is offline  
post #4877 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 10:51 AM
AVS Special Member
 
airgas1998's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 42degsN 92degsW
Posts: 2,156
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 95
Quote:
Originally Posted by endlessender View Post

Just installed 1103. It did something different and said "Optimizing system...this can take more than 2 minutes. Do not turn off, etc."

Interesting.

Let me just say this...

If you watch Hockey. You're going to be very very happy. smile.gif

stop it, i'm stuck at work, and your going to say something like that.

Habit Forming....Wallet Burning Hobby....

64" Samsung F8500 Plasma
55" Samsung B8500 Full Array Lcd
Channel Master Dvr
Onkyo 818
Crown xls-2000
Sony Blu-Ray 790
Svs Ultra Towers/Center, Energy Rc-50 Surround
Svs Pb-13 Ultra Sub
airgas1998 is offline  
post #4878 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 10:55 AM
Member
 
jackobots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 174
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by endlessender View Post

Just installed 1103. It did something different and said "Optimizing system...this can take more than 2 minutes. Do not turn off, etc."

Interesting.

Let me just say this...

If you watch Hockey. You're going to be very very happy. smile.gif

I'm shocked. Watched the same game I've been testing with every firmware update thus far and ....no pops. Now to test 3D fluctuations.

BTW it did not blow out my settings

Very, very, very cool news biggrin.gif
jackobots is offline  
post #4879 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 10:56 AM
AVS Special Member
 
airgas1998's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 42degsN 92degsW
Posts: 2,156
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Liked: 95
q's for you bb silver rewards members. (i might have to bump this enlight to the fw1103 findings) i saw a post on avs that a member said the bb rep told him he wasn't eligible for the 60days automatically after you meet that threshold. was the rep just blowing smoke or is it true. another words i purchased my set through bb do i have the 60day return now or was it still just the 15days, and my box sitting in my garage is taking up wasted space.

Habit Forming....Wallet Burning Hobby....

64" Samsung F8500 Plasma
55" Samsung B8500 Full Array Lcd
Channel Master Dvr
Onkyo 818
Crown xls-2000
Sony Blu-Ray 790
Svs Ultra Towers/Center, Energy Rc-50 Surround
Svs Pb-13 Ultra Sub
airgas1998 is offline  
post #4880 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 11:01 AM
Senior Member
 
Damien Inferno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Brooklyn, New York
Posts: 288
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 20
I just installed 1103 and immediately played the hockey I have on my dvr. I see absolutely no popping at all!

Samsung F8500 Service menu factory reset and activating cal modes instructions

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1475066/official-samsung-pnxxf8500-owners-thread-no-street-price-talk/2460#post_24101072
Damien Inferno is offline  
post #4881 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 11:03 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
DavidHir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,196
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 51 Post(s)
Liked: 377
Quote:
Originally Posted by endlessender View Post

Just installed 1103. It did something different and said "Optimizing system...this can take more than 2 minutes. Do not turn off, etc."

Interesting.

Let me just say this...

If you watch Hockey. You're going to be very very happy. smile.gif

I'm shocked. Watched the same game I've been testing with every firmware update thus far and ....no pops. Now to test 3D fluctuations.

BTW it did not blow out my settings

Great news!

DavidHir is offline  
post #4882 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 11:08 AM
Senior Member
 
Thelt2000x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 266
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 21
This is great news!
Thelt2000x is offline  
post #4883 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 11:16 AM
Senior Member
 
endlessender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 19
Unfortunately it seems the overall screen brightness fluctuations are still present in the 3D material I tested (intro to Prometheus). Disappointing.

But I'm optimistic we may see a fix for this as Hockey, which was the torture test for 2D brightness pops, has absolutely no pops. I'm watching exactly the same material from my DVR that has caused pops (Yale vs UMASS-Lowell) even with each prior FW release near the goal on fast pans and there are none whatsoever.
mightymouseusf likes this.

Samsung PN64F8500 (still within return policy window and open minded)
Oppo BDP-93
DirecTV HR-24
Denon AVR 2309-CI
Definitive Technology 5.1 system
Harmony One remote
endlessender is offline  
post #4884 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 11:20 AM
Senior Member
 
mightymouseusf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 243
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 24
That's great news endless, and again you confirmed that it didn't change any of your settings? Even the deeper inside the menus ones like white balance and such?
mightymouseusf is offline  
post #4885 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 11:20 AM
AVS Special Member
 
fierce_gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,082
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 185 Post(s)
Liked: 506
these favourable reviews have inspired me to search for the firmware again. guess i'm a little slow, though I had a 'plasma' tv, didn't realize '3D' was a type of television. anyway, downloading the fw now, will update later.
fierce_gt is offline  
post #4886 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 11:31 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Slickman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,172
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Liked: 17
I wonder though, did they make the whites not as bright to eliminate the pops?
Slickman is offline  
post #4887 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 11:32 AM
Member
 
somar76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 19
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Just updated mine to 1103... did the same thing " Optimizing system...do not turn off tv..." only thing i had to do was reset my ethernet connection but the settings stayed the same. Not seeing the brightness pops as of yet gonna try some other content to test it out further...any suggestions???
somar76 is offline  
post #4888 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 11:44 AM
AVS Special Member
 
fierce_gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,082
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 185 Post(s)
Liked: 506
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slickman View Post

I wonder though, did they make the whites not as bright to eliminate the pops?

I've already had my backlight and brightness set very low. that didn't fix the pops, so even if that's a side effect of the fix, it's not something that simple. personally, I thought the fix would just be to not have the picture jump in brightness at all. whatever it's 'brightest' level is with a full white screen should be what it's limited to. I don't need the white areas getting brighter when more dark content enters the image anyway
fierce_gt is offline  
post #4889 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 11:45 AM
AVS Special Member
 
ljmart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: TN / Clwtr FL
Posts: 1,066
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 172
Quote:
Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

Dang, Samsung is popping these out like the octomom. what, like three in a week's time.

lmao!! better more, than not enough!

samsung PN51F8500. marantz sr5008. sony bdp s5100. emp tek e55tib LR, e5cib, e55wib. sennheiser momentum. sig sauer p250.
ljmart is offline  
post #4890 of 12270 Old 05-07-2013, 11:49 AM
AVS Special Member
 
ljmart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: TN / Clwtr FL
Posts: 1,066
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 172
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slickman View Post

I wonder though, did they make the whites not as bright to eliminate the pops?

i was wondering same thing...

still not avail ota... guess it will be later or tomorrow as is usually a day later for this method.

samsung PN51F8500. marantz sr5008. sony bdp s5100. emp tek e55tib LR, e5cib, e55wib. sennheiser momentum. sig sauer p250.
ljmart is offline  
Reply Plasma Flat Panel Displays

Tags
Samsung Pn51f8500 51 Inch 3d Smart Plasma Hdtv
Gear in this thread

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off