Originally Posted by shpankey
I never seen it before the firmware update, as it's the first thing I did last night (update the firmware when I got the 8500 home) but reading about that issue, I watched a hockey game last night from a recorded event on my dvr (blackhawks 5, some other team 1) looking for fluctuating light/dark anything and definitely did not see any issues whatsoever. Though perhaps my eye is just untrained to spot it.
I bought the 64" 8500 and am starting to regret it already. It just doesn't get as bright as the 60" I seen in the store. Also, while the colors look accurate, they don't seem to pop as much as my old panny 50". Just overall less saturated picture than what I've grown accustomed to, right or wrong, I've grown fond of deep, rich, saturated colors and an overall very "warm" look. It's hard to explain, as it's not a flaw at all, it is kind of like the "warm2" setting is actually set to "normal" and I want to switch to a warmer setting. Again, it's not really a flaw as much as just a preference of mine I've grown to like over time. Like the first time I started using "warm" on my panny when I had always used "normal" before that. It took me awhile to start liking it. I wanted to go back to normal for a long time. This tv looks like it's on normal and my panny is on warm. That's about the best way to explain it in my limited vernacular.
I do have a couple of MAJOR issues however. I have my Onkyo SR-875 in the shop getting updated firmware and dsp done to it, so I'm forced to use the tv for audio. It seems that whenever I do certain things (not sure what causes it yet, but it's definitely more than just 1 thing that triggers it... I think even maybe 3 things cause it) like switch inputs, the tv automatically turns the sound off via turning the tv sound output back to receiver, which was the default. This is infuriating to say the least! Second, I cannot get my Dish VIP722DVR to function with the smart hub stuff properly. It won't allow my remote to change the channel via the remote itself or the guide. This wouldn't be such a huge deal if it wasn't for the fact that samsungs guide for my Dish account is freakiing amazingly awesome and I want to use it desperately! It's waaaay better than Dish's own tv guide. I can view the samsung guide of my dish tv account (i.e: I see the guide, can browse all the channels, see what's on, what's coming, everything but cannot actually change to that channel). When I select a channel to change to, it simply dismisses the guide and stays on that channel. I realize the 2nd one is just a bonus thing, but damn, samsung's guide is freaking awesome and I want to use it!
I think I may take this tv back and get the 60" 8500 instead. It was just brighter and crisper. At 64" I honestly believe the resolution starts to become visible. In this case, imo, is where 4k would really shine. I think I'm going to go back down to 60", which seems to be the max for 1080p in regards to maintaining a brighter, more crisp image. Above this and you can start to visibly be able to tell. I will use the 60" 8500 to hold me for 5-6 years and then jump in on an 80" 4k OLED and live happily ever after.
p.s. I came THIS ' ' close to pulling the trigger on the new Sony 65" 4k tv they just received in. It was beautiful except for the flaw of overall blooming that edge lit led's all seem to have. The clouding was minimal, in fact tough to spot at all (VERY tough, I had to get really close on a paused black screen, and even then it was nigh invisible). This tv used some kind of blending new technology that allowed local dimming with the edge lighting... not sure how they did it, but blacks were as black as the bezel, and I'm not exaggerating. I mean BLACK. I hated all the speakers on it though, as someone with a sound system, it was just wasteful. Apparently the sales guy claimed it was somehow a built in 5.1 surround sound system including a built in subwoofer. Again, a big waste and took up too much space on the tv (both sides had like 3 speakers each if I recall). It was an absolute dream to watch this tv though, as the 4k stuff was staggering to say the least. But I had them put in an old dvd to see what it could do with low res and it became apparent to me, the tv lost all it's shock and awe at that point. The 4k demo material was what was dropping jaws and indeed, as I mentioned above, at over 60" (in this case 65") it really proved its worth. At this size and above, 4k is imo greatly needed as just the overall screen size is just too big for 1080p to hold its clarity and detail.
But just my overall impression of this tv was really fantastic! It evicerated the sammy 8500 and vt60 tv's behind it. In a lot of ways, I wish I hadn't seen it, as it raised the bar too high and now my expectations have become unrealistic for my 8500. It's not really fair to it because it was closing in on twice as much cost wise. Still, I had the money to buy it right there and it took all of my being to stop myself from pulling the trigger. If it didn't have the hideous speakers and was a little more impressive with the dvd content, I would have bagged it on the spot. Though my wife was quite proud of me when I got home and relayed the story to her. lol. Still, I sure wish I hadn't viewed it for an hour before pulling the trigger on the 8500.
I should also say, the 60" 8500 was definitely jaw dropping too. And definitely, imo, easily beat out the vt60 right next to it; quite handily in fact. But then I had to be stupid and go wander around the store! I should have went in, bagged the 60" 8500 and walked out with a huge smile and never looked back! Now to just exchange my 64" for the 60" and get the brightness/clarity back I witnessed in the store. Hopefully this will fix the 2 issues I'm having with the sound turning itself off and the dish dvr guide thingy. Is anyone else having these issues or is it just specific to my tv? I'm thinking I just got a bad tv; so it needs replaced anyhow... just also to go down a tad in size.