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The F8500 is the overall winner.

In which tread is the explination please??? link please

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In which tread is the explination please??? link please

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when rock band or guitar hero came out I played that for like two weeks straight almost. burn in is really blown out of proportions. you need to abuse the tv for it to happen. you don't 'accidentally' get burn in from normal use.

yes it's good to mix, but it's necessary to be paranoid about it. like if you're watching a 3hr football game with a static score, it doesn't matter because the commercials coming on, or you flipping channels out of boredom is more than enough variety to prevent burn in. even with video games, there's very few that allow you to jump straight into the game play with some static display and stay there for hours on end. going back into the menus, pausing to take a leak, start up screens, save screens, etc all count as 'variety'.

I truly believe that ANY extra effort you make is good enough, and often overkill. it's not a bad thing to protect your investment, just don't let it get in the way of USING the TV. run the slides or whatever to break in the tv, then just use it with a teeny bit of common sense. turn it off when you leave the room for several minutes, don't leave it paused overnight, and you should be just fine.

kind of like bb's showroom floors running espn 24/7 for months at a time thats a plasma killer

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Indeed but by a nose on both sets of scorecards. Must be the closest shootout yet. While my scores were in line with those of the calibrators, I am not surprised with the results as the panels were that close. Hopefully there will be another shootout in the fall, if the OLEDs ever come out.
by a nose is right but i think an all around would have to be the 8500 dark room bright room whites are whiter and i think the contrast from the white to the blacks have a greater range correct me if i'm wrong

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Ladies and gentlemen, we have a 2013 King of HDTV's - the F8500!


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Wow you guys are great... thanks for all the reponses. I had a rear projection crt about 10 years ago that I burned an image into. It happened after an all night gaming/drinking session and I woke to the same image on my tv and I have been paranoid ever since. I bought a dlp to replace it and then replaced that with a full array lcd. I know exactly what happened to burn in that crt so if plasma is similar I dont think ill have anh problems but im still gonna be paranoid.
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OMG I call that a win for the F8500!!
AND if it was ever in a normally/my lit living room it would be a slam dunk lol..

PS:If posting the results in this thread is a NO NO please let me know and I'll pull it..
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OMG I call that a win for the F8500!!
AND if it was ever in a normally/my lit living room it would be a slam dunk lol..

PS:If posting the results in this thread is a NO NO please let me know and I'll pull it..

If that is a slam dunk your hoop is much lower than mine smile.gif

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If that is a slam dunk your hoop is much lower than mine smile.gif

I said IF it was in a lit living room instead of a batcavish enviorment...
although these days I'd be lucky to be able to slamdunk a softball lol.. getting old sucks eek.gif
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I said IF it was in a lit living room instead of a batcavish enviorment...
although these days I'd be lucky to be able to slamdunk a softball lol.. getting old sucks eek.gif

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Congrats to all 8500 owners, you now own the 'new King'...but you guys knew that already, you didn't need to have it validated. Scoring was as tight as it should have been. Just a great year for displays

The thing that nobody really mentions, is the tremendous responsiveness of the Samsung engineers. You guys complained, Robert heard and reported and Samsung listened and acted. I wish all manufacturers were like that! Well done Samsung!

For those waiting for the 3D pop fix, Robert has reported that too and I'm sure when Samsung reproduces that, you'll see that fixed too.
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If that is a slam dunk your hoop is much lower than mine smile.gif

I said IF it was in a lit living room instead of a batcavish enviorment...
although these days I'd be lucky to be able to slamdunk a softball lol.. getting old sucks eek.gif
It's not the ball that counts in a slam dunk. As an old old old basketball point guard before there was such a designation, it's your elevator that counts. Maybe at my youngest, and best I might have just made it slam dunking a golf ball. wink.gif
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I said IF it was in a lit living room instead of a batcavish enviorment...
although these days I'd be lucky to be able to slamdunk a softball lol.. getting old sucks eek.gif

Indeed, but it sure beats the alternative!
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agree, I've got a HTPC hooked up, and was using a b530 Samsung plasma before this. It's the only monitor I have hooked up to the pc(well it's split between my f8500, a projector, and a small LED in the bathroom) so I use it for pc duties as needed. it's probably in the range of 70% video, 30% PC, perhaps less at times. I've definitely had IR issues with the previous plasma, never any burn-in. the f8500 seems worlds better for IR so far. it really does seem like a non-issue for video use. i'm not even really worried about leaving letterbox bars up for hours on end anymore. but a computer monitor just doesn't need the abilities of a plasma. it needs to be able to display static images for hours on end, all the time. if I had no intentions of watching video at least 50% of the time, I wouldn't even consider a plasma. I absolutely hate trucks, think they are a waste, and annoying to drive or drive around. but I need something to haul my boat to the cottage i'm not going to figure out a way to barely tow it with an economy car that won't even get good mileage while towing it anyway. bite the PQ bullet and get an LCD. if you really want to play videos off the PC and have them look good OCCASIONALLY, then use an extended desktop or dual monitor setup with one being your TV and the other being a real computer monitor that can handle the abuse.


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do they compare them on 3D?
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Hahaha funny my friend, is this experience speaking?? lol
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[quote name="Ken Ross" url="/t/1463454/official-samsung-pnxxf8500-series-discussion-thread-no-street-price-talk/5850#post_23312365"
The thing that nobody really mentions, is the tremendous responsiveness of the Samsung engineers. You guys complained, Robert heard and reported and Samsung listened and acted. I wish all manufacturers were like that! Well done Samsung!
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Yep. Samsung sure earned and deserves a lot of respect for doing that.

One really great thing about the set is that it's basic structure is fantastic...great screen, quad-core processor,heavy duty power supply, and even the ventilation system is extremely well designed. When you add in the evolution port and Samsung's willingness to make meaningful improvements, the probability for significant upgrades down the road is very, very likely.

The experts kept saying it's all about the math. Well Samsung engineers are pretty good at math, so I have a feeling we have not seen the best of this set quite yet...we'll see what the future holds, but it sure is looking pretty bright to me biggrin.gif
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Hahaha funny my friend, is this experience speaking?? lol

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u be happy to know...... f8500 rules!

Yes, young lady, I do feel better. Thank you wink.gif
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Yes, young lady, I do feel better. Thank you wink.gif

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I know the 8500 comes with 4 glasses but my old ssg-3100gb and the ssg-4100gb still work with this tv?
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and my panasonics?
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I know the 8500 comes with 4 glasses but my old ssg-3100gb and the ssg-4100gb still work with this tv?

according to what ive read, yes
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and my panasonics?
all Bluetooth based so all should work

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I just wanted to stop in to say Congratulations.
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A lot of us old Panny longtime owners have already came to the same conclusion the shootout guys have. I really feel Panasonic is taking one on the chin this year. Perhaps they seen it coming too and that's why they're pulling the R&D and moving on.

The clarity of detail (i hesitate to use sharpness as that's unsatisfactory) and overall picture quality and brightness just elevates it above the Panny sea, imo. Congrats Samsung.
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I dominate my grand kids that is lol

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I just wanted to stop in to say Congratulations.

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for nowwwww biggrin.gif

Very funny but true, Chumon's comment about playing his the grandkids made me think of the Dikembe Mutombo commercial biggrin.gif

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Very funny but true, Chumon's comment about playing his the grandkids reminded me of the Dikembe Mutombo commercial biggrin.gif

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Very classy of you sheshechic! A better reaction than some I've heard. smile.gif
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