Originally Posted by gary777
I just looked at some of the high end led and Plasma TV's at Paul's TV. I was so disappointed that the PQ was not as good as my old Sony (CRT) Trinitron Wega KD-34XBR960. I can't believe that I am willing to pay $2-3 k and still would have to come to a forum like this one to to learn how to set the controls just to get a nice picture. learning how to use my computer seemed easier. On top of that, to get it as close as possible to it's PQ potential it has to have 300 hours on it, then get it professionally calibrated. I guess that is the trade off you have pay for wanting/having a slim large screen TV. I gotta think about this. Then again, my CRT Sony is only going to last so long...
I am not sure what you are comparing, I still have my 600 pound (feels like it) Sony 36FS210 and it has a great picture, until you see it next to any high end plasma, for me that was my old 50" Pani and now the 64 Samsung. Both came out of the box, no tuning, with a picture that shames the Sony instantly, and your first thought, wow and I thought that was good.
That aside the biggest favor you and most people can do for themselves is delete all bookmarks to this forum and never come back again, some common myths carried on this forum that novices succumb to:
1. The biggest myth is that your 3-4,000 dollar TV needs another 500 bucks dropped in tuning. This is purist stuff, most people find the picture just plain stunning and never touch a single picture control, and of those that do use the same basic ones we have all tweaked since color TV's came out, Brightness, Contrast, Color, Tint, Sharpness, and ok there is on new one Cell light. All of these can be done be eye with live content just like your daddy and granddaddy did it. If you looked back in the day when CRT's ruled, you would find the exact same nonsense only it involved the risk of electrocution and a cheater cord to power up the set with the back off.
2. Take my "picture quality" test, using live content, using only the basic picture controls get the picture to where you like it. Now don't mess with it at all for two months, don't come here for 2 months, don't think about this place for 2 months, chances are unless something breaks or you can't figure out a feature you will forget all about this place and our insane penchant for the "perfect" picture, if most of these guys here could they would be re-adjusting their eyes every few days and complaining to God about the black levels... The reason this works for nearly everyone is you tune you brain and not the TV. (of course if there is a real issue with your TV then you should simply return in the satisfaction period and if you bought from a place without a satisfaction period then that is on you.)
3. You Sony CRT likely has a little more to give, but removing the back, buying a set of proper alignment tools, and dealing with the cross-talk between controls that analog made an art form and digital not a lot better, but most did not do that either.
4. A lot of this is legacy from the very early sets, projectors, and tech that was not nearly close to this today, I remember when I went to Barco alignment school they suggested tuning every 90 days of a 50,000 TV.
5. There is an adjustment period going from CRT to Plasma, get over it, there is no fix for that except as noted in #2 above...
Now I am not suggesting these tunes are a waste of money for those that want every possible bit out of their TV and watch mostly blu-rays in the dark, I know it is sacrilege to say here but calibrating these sets if your viewing is like 90% of buyers, HD TV under far less that ideal lighting then you are wasting your money.
I think most folks are way overthinking their picture here and represent a very very small percentage of buyers but as these are fairly high end you will draw in the perfectionists and we can think them for keeping the makers on their toes and producing better sets every year.