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post #11971 of 12514 Old 05-31-2014, 09:14 PM
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I just got my 3rd replacement and of course it still buzzes, I expected that. The real question I have is this, I just checked the hours usage on this tv and it says 14, is that normal?
Can someone answer this question please!
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Yikes, i want a 60"....i wonder if i should buy it now. I was kindof wanting to wait til the 4th of July sales in a month.

Just buy now from Paulstv.com and get the open box model. Its not open box anyway.
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Can someone answer this question please!

Was is factory sealed? If so, it might be testing the factory does.

As for the buzzing, look behind your tv towards the top, you will see 3 vents. put your hand in the middle of the middle vent and push hard enough to almost tilt the tv on its stand, ALMOST, don't push hard enough to flip your tv! Then easily back your hand off and see if that fixes the buzzing. It did on mine. Now I have no buzzing even with the tv on mute and the room silent.
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Was is factory sealed? If so, it might be testing the factory does.
Yes it was factory sealed, I think. The clear wrapping was still on it if that's what you mean.
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This 64F8500 has the BEST picture that I have ever seen on a TV...............and yet.............on Thursday I am paying to have it professionally Calibrated. Do you think that there is actually a possibility that it will look even better............
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It should look better, but each TV veries on how far it was off from the factory. Some units will look much better, some units will look just a little better, let us know wink.gif

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Getting ready to calibrate my two 64" F8500's tomorrow afternoon. Each set now has a few hundred hours on them so I figured now would be a good time to calibrate them. I have a little experience calibrating and have done a VT60, ZT60, and two older Samsung plasmas "B560 & B850" but am by no means an expert. I am using an X-Rite EODIS3 i1Display Pro meter and Calman V4 software. I have Mascior's Calibration disc and the AVS HD 709 disc.


1. Should the calibration be done with the Black Optimizer on or off? "I have seen some people say that it does not make a difference and some say to turn it off while calibrating and then turn it on after the calibration is completed."

2. What type, size, and saturation should I use for this particular set if you had to choose one for the whole calibration? "apl or standard / 10%, 6.5%, 5% / 75%, or 100%."

3. Should I calibrate Movie mode or the Cal Day/Night modes? "I remember reading somewhere about some bugs in the Cal Day/Night modes?"

4. What gamma curve do you think works/looks the best on the F8500 without crushing blacks/detail? "2.2, 2.3, 2.4?"

5. Should the sharpness setting be kept at zero or moved higher? "I find it difficult to set the sharpness setting on any TV when trying to use the patterns"

6. Are there any settings or filters that should be turned on to improve DirecTV picture quality? "These TV's are only used to watch DirecTV as we have a projector for movies."

I can only answer some of your questions:

1) BO off for cal, on for normal use.

3) FW 1116 (North America) is reputed to have corrected CAL issues, so movie and both cals should behave. I recommend you clone Movie into Night and Day and then watch the screen as you switch modes. Decide for yourself if you see differences.

4) Most here prefer CCA 2.23 gamma. You are aware of the Recommended Settings thread? http://www.avsforum.com/t/1467675/f8500-recommended-settings-thread/

5) Sharpness 0 for cal, 5ish for normal content, 20 to 40ish for PC monitoring.

Potentially useful stuff,
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Yes it was factory sealed, I think. The clear wrapping was still on it if that's what you mean.
Then it's nothing to worry about. If anything you are 14 hours into your break in period biggrin.gif
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Today is the big day! D-Nice is going to come and calibrate my tv between 4-5pm!!! Excited like a kid on Christmas morning!
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Today is the big day! D-Nice is going to come and calibrate my tv between 4-5pm!!! Excited like a kid on Christmas morning!
Glad i love that feeling.. It will b worth the wait.. Watch hdtv shootout 2013 on You tube till he gets there..lol smile.gif

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Hey guys, considering the 51" for my bedroom. Will mainly be used for gaming with my PC and some movies/TV. I came across a post that said the 51" had noticably lighter blacks than the 60/64" models. Can someone confirm or deny this? Always a lot of disinformation out, hard to find what's true or not.

Also, I currently use a Panasonic G20, how much of an improvement in PQ can I expect?
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Reflections Reflections REFLECTIONS

So, I am considering upgrading from our old 42" Panasonic Plasma to a larger 51 or possibly 60" set. In our new home (OK, we've been here 5 years) we sit between 11 and 18 feet from the TV in our living room (don't get me started on the "watching from the dining room another 10 ft away) and the 42" is really just too small.

I start to duplicate my search from 7 years ago and come right back to Plasma...and right back to one of the the hurdles I faced then...glare and reflections. Flashback momentarily to my solution in 2007...the one year only king of all anti-glare / anti-reflection plasma screens: the Panasonic PX77U series with a nearly full matte screen rivaling the LCD matte screens of the day. Did it negatively impact blacks to a degree? Yep. Did it basically eliminate reflections from anything other than a direct lamp? Sure did. Basically, for us we got no reflections, smooth plasma motion, and more lifelike colors at the expense of deeper blacks and some pop - which we deemed "totally worth it". Friends and family who owned LCDs routinely commented on how good our "matte" Plasma looked in comparison to their sets.

Back to today...uh oh, everything has a glossy screen (even the LCDs). $^@&$%! Regardless, we pick up a $600 Samsung F5300 series last weekend at BB and try it out for a week. Our room is not really that bright, but does have overhead lights and (at an angle) a french door. We angle the set just so, but after a week we decide...it is just too reflective - returned it last night. It isn't the french door or any direct light source. It is the white walls and picture frames on the book case....or me sitting on the couch with a white shirt and what I'll describe as almost a general "glare" (hard to describe). The reflections are bright enough and so sharp, they become the focus of the eye instead of the scene at hand.

Sooooo...now we are contemplating one of three options:

1. Sammie's F8500 - Spending the coin for an F8500...ugh 3X the F5300 price for the equivalent 51! I have seen it at BB and understand what the AR filter is doing there (less about a full diffusion as with a matte screen and more a "slight diffusion" and dimming). Yes, the F8500 has great PQ overall, but I am focusing on reflections here.

2. OLED/Moth-Eye - Live with the 42" Panny for another couple of years (or more), and hold out for an OLED/Moth-Eye combo (which may or may not ever materialize)

3. Give up on Plasma and go LED - Basically, in the LED space it appears Sharp and Sony have the "best" antiglare/anti-reflection (essentially they "diffuse" more substantially), although, again, no one has a true matte in the larger sizes. I, of course, give up the other attributes of Plasma. frown.gif

Anyway, thanks for bearing with me this long.

My question to you guys is with regard to #1 above. In your own homes (as opposed to a crazily lit BB), daytime (or night time with lights on) viewing experience how bad and/or distracting you feel the reflections are (predominantly in the darker scenes) with things like white walls, a book case, window pane, etc?

If you have any thoughts on options 2/3 above, I'm happy to hear those too. smile.gif

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I'd go Plasma and get creative with your room layout. Never have a lamp thats in direct line of the TV from behind as you will see it reflect. Or try and get up-lighters. Best lighting I have. Or if it's so bad get some black fabric for areas such as book cases and so on. Going LCD, you will regret it.
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Glad i love that feeling.. It will b worth the wait.. Watch hdtv shootout 2013 on You tube till he gets there..lol smile.gif

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is the production of F8500 stopped? I heard Samsung will keep producing F8500 for 2014, if this is the case, will it include new processor and new remote
Thank you for clarifying
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Glad i love that feeling.. It will b worth the wait.. Watch hdtv shootout 2013 on You tube till he gets there..lol smile.gif

Have a link? a ton of vids popped out.

Search for the value electronics HDTV shootout 2013...they have a dedicated channel on YouTube.


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is the production of F8500 stopped? I heard Samsung will keep producing F8500 for 2014, if this is the case, will it include new processor and new remote
Thank you for clarifying

Think this question has been answered as best it it can be either in this thread or the other (don't remember where you posted it). No one knows if production is stopped for sure, there have been rumors on some of the smaller sets, but I have seen nothing "for sure". You will need to get the evolution kit in order to get the 2014 layout and remote.


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Search for the value electronics HDTV shootout 2013...they have a dedicated channel on YouTube.


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It's Channel Hdtvshootout http://www.youtube.com/user/HDTVShootout there are many becuse its few hours long look for opener or just click and watch..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QkNXZctqIk

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Found it, thanks! Interesting stuff in there.
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I was told by best buy and frys workers that the computer doesn't show them restocking on 51's and 60's and that only the 64" version will continue to be produced in 2014. Kinda why all of the 51's and 60's are sold out at all of the local stores like best buy, sears and frys and I had to order mine online.

Thats the odd thing. Look what appears to be happening in the UK and it's not the first. Some were refunded, others got other TV's or had to pay a bit more for another model.

So it appears the UK versions could be EOL.
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Well I had a long and quite heated conversation with Samsung escalations a short while ago. This TV and all its parts are now defunct All they have done is referred me back to JL for a refund or replacement. They were quite unhelpful really. At least I know where I stand now.

John Lewis have been better with me, they'll give me another £250 towards one of theirs and will PM under the usual terms.

They will not be getting the VT65 back in though.

http://www.avforums.com/threads/samsung-psxxf8500-owners-and-general-chat-thread.1765934/page-66#post-20680883
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D-Nice is here calibrating. He is working his magic. Been an hour so far.
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LET HIM KNOW AVS SAYS HI STRANGER.... smile.gif Let us know what he do?

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D-Nice is here calibrating. He is working his magic. Been an hour so far.

Post-cal results are always welcome.
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Pics he was there> Equipment used ...Post and pre report lol smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif

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He just left. He was great! Answered a lot of questions, was very patient and took his time. Spent almost 2.5 hours here working his magic. A Huge thanks to him and you guys for turning me into him!



Here are the pre and post charts.


Pre-Calibration

JoeAmbartsumyansPN60F8500PreCalibrationReportStandar.pdf 141k .pdf file

Post Calibration - Daytime

JoeAmbartsumyansPN60F8500PostCalibrationReportCal-Da.pdf 123k .pdf file

Post calibratiomn - Night

JoeAmbartsumyansPN60F8500PostCalibrationReportCal-Ni.pdf 122k .pdf file
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Here are the pre and post charts.
Nice results! So you got about 110 nits for night and 150 nits for day. Is the day mode as bright as it can get while still being calibrated, or does d-nice just not calibrate it any brighter?
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He just left. He was great! Answered a lot of questions, was very patient and took his time. Spent almost 2.5 hours here working his magic. A Huge thanks to him and you guys for turning me into him!



Here are the pre and post charts.


Pre-Calibration

JoeAmbartsumyansPN60F8500PreCalibrationReportStandar.pdf 141k .pdf file

Post Calibration - Daytime

JoeAmbartsumyansPN60F8500PostCalibrationReportCal-Da.pdf 123k .pdf file

Post calibratiomn - Night

JoeAmbartsumyansPN60F8500PostCalibrationReportCal-Ni.pdf 122k .pdf file
Very nice..I'm jelous...Whats cell,brightness etc settings at..WHat are ur thoughts?

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He just left. He was great! Answered a lot of questions, was very patient and took his time. Spent almost 2.5 hours here working his magic. A Huge thanks to him and you guys for turning me into him!



Here are the pre and post charts.


Pre-Calibration

JoeAmbartsumyansPN60F8500PreCalibrationReportStandar.pdf 141k .pdf file

Post Calibration - Daytime

JoeAmbartsumyansPN60F8500PostCalibrationReportCal-Da.pdf 123k .pdf file

Post calibratiomn - Night

JoeAmbartsumyansPN60F8500PostCalibrationReportCal-Ni.pdf 122k .pdf file

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Now why would Joe want to do that? biggrin.gif
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Nice results! So you got about 110 nits for night and 150 nits for day. Is the day mode as bright as it can get while still being calibrated, or does d-nice just not calibrate it any brighter?
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Nits... IE: cd/m^2. It's a measure of brightness.
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