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My second set would occasionally buzz on black screens. It would also buzz when the set would turn on and the screen flashes momentarily. No other buzzing. Not even on a full white slide.
Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully on Monday I'll be saying the same thing! I'm not looking for NO buzz... I'd just like one that doesn't distract from watching at a normal volume.
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Hi everyone. So I'm a bit bummed here. I bought the Samsung 51 inch 8500 series. For the first 100 hours, I broke it in using the dl disc that I got from this site that shows colors every so often. It took me awhile to do since I was away from the house so it took almost 2 weeks. So I set up my tv 3 days ago and was planning to watch 100 hours of hd movies with no static imaging before I calibrate it. Getting excited about setting up arguably Samsung's best tv ever. But than...

After just an hour or so of watching an HD movie without messing with the settings, I got some major eye strain, headache, and overall puky feeling. Now this is my second Samsung plasma. I owned a 42 inch Samsung Plasma before with no problems. This is the kind of feeling I get when I watch LED. It's the reason why I purchased this last Plasma because I thought I wouldn't get this.

I turned off Dejudder and all the other fancy settings. I think it's a bit better but I still get eye strain from it. So my question is.... Is this something I can correct with messing with the settings? Do I need to just get used to this? Will a lamp behind the tv help?

Thanks everybody. I'm kinda screwed here since I can't return it anymore. I only had 15 days to return it.
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Looking to pull the trigger on the 64" model.

Can you guys just help me with a couple of questions?

Keep seeing different reports everywhere on input lag. I will be using this display for lots of gaming, and I'm wondering what is the best possible input lag that is achievable on this display. I have heard that renaming the input to PC drops the input lag, but AVforums review said it was still high at 60ms

Also, I'm a huge 3D fan, and I'm looking for experienced 3D fanatics to give me the lowdown on 3D quality. How would you rate the 3D in comparison to all other displays you've tried?
Depends if you're a hardcore competitive gamer. If you're a casual gamer, than the input lag on PC will be non-existent. If you play a lot of FPS multiplayer games, than those 1 on 1 battles may be slightly unfair if your opponent has a better monitor.
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I suppose it's possible that some sort of flicker is bothering you but I'm sensitive to flicker and my F8500 doesn't bother me.

You might try feeding it a 1080p24 bluray with Cinema Smooth on to see if that makes you sick.
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Also Google 'motion sickness with plasma tv'. Plenty of people talking about it.
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The F8500 does produce more noticeable flicker in very bright scenes than my D series, try sitting a little further away and lowering cell light (or adding more room light) until you find a comfortable viewing level.
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Thanks guys. So doing some research, it looks like it's something that can be corrected which is a big relief because i like this tv.

Would the feed off my Comcast box also cause a problem? Will Blurays be a better viewing experience? How is the refresh rate on this set? The only hd i watched was from Encore which i know is not full HD.

A friend messaged me about a light that helps by putting it behind the set. Thanks man. I wasn't able to message you back. Helps with eye strain.
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Also Google 'motion sickness with plasma tv'. Plenty of people talking about it.
Good thing I do not get that, one more thing to be grateful for......
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Good thing I do not get that, one more thing to be grateful for......
Might not be the TV, there's a vertigo virus going around. Quite a few people that I've reference to have been complaining about it, including me. (Just great when you're trying to shovel the snow in the driveway, and make a quick turn to go back the other way.)
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After 18 months of owning this TV it stopped working.
There is no picture, black screen but sound is working when I press the volume buttons or menu buttons.

When I turn it on the red light blinks 10 times with 3-4 seconds intervals and then after that it blinks 4 fast blinks.

The problem started few weeks ago and I had to switch the TV on and off several times until the picture comes up. Now it does not come up.

I called Samsung, they came and took the TV to repair it. The technician who came said it might be a problem with the power supply or the panel itself. Yesterday they called me to say that it will take one week to get the faulty part replaced but before that they will give me the estimated cost of reparing it.

This really sucks big time, a Premium TV like that should be problem free at least for the first 3 years. I have LCD and LED TVs from Sony, some are more than 10 years and none of them ever had any problem and went for a repair! This TV is my first Samsung TV & first Plasma and this is my experience!! The picture quality is great but what is the use if the build quality of what is inside is like that?

Did anybody face anything like my problem with this TV?

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After 18 months of owning this TV it stopped working. . . .
Samsung's Manual at http://media.datatail.com/docs/manual/145730_en.pdf Page 26 in the "Providing Proper Ventilation for Your TV" section states:

"When you install your TV, maintain a distance of at least 4 inches between the TV and other objects (walls, cabinet sides, etc.) to ensure proper ventilation. Failing to maintain proper ventilation may result in a fire or a problem with the product caused by an increase in its internal temperature."

You once posted a picture of your new TV in a solid backed cabinet with a narrow gap around the screen. I warned you about the ventilation problem and 4" requirements at the time. If you put your repaired TV back in the same cabinet then you can expect it will work for about 18 months, maybe less.

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Samsung's Manual at http://media.datatail.com/docs/manual/145730_en.pdf Page 26 in the "Providing Proper Ventilation for Your TV" section states:

"When you install your TV, maintain a distance of at least 4 inches between the TV and other objects (walls, cabinet sides, etc.) to ensure proper ventilation. Failing to maintain proper ventilation may result in a fire or a problem with the product caused by an increase in its internal temperature."

You once posted a picture of your new TV in a solid backed cabinet with a narrow gap around the screen. I warned you about the ventilation problem and 4" requirements at the time. If you put your repaired TV back in the same cabinet then you can expect it too will work for about 18 months, maybe less.
Good point. I have mine wall mounted with an older mount that keeps it roughly 4" away, just for that reason.

What puzzles me is why they list one of those ultra-flush mounting kits (two circles? with a cable) as an accessory for this tv, which contradicts the manual.

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What puzzles me is why they list one of those ultra-flush mounting kits (two circles? with a cable) as an accessory for this tv, which contradicts the manual.
Marketing always trumps Engineering!

Can't imagine using the ultra-flush mounting kit with an EVO kit.

Added 5 fans to my TV and the entire back of the set stays at room temperature. The fan exhaust temperatures stabilize at about 7 degrees F above inlet temperature with the fans set to a speed which makes them inaudible at viewing distance.

I posted pictures and instructions in one of my first posts to this thread:
Official Samsung PNxxF8500 Series Discussion Thread [No Street Price Talk]

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I guess I'm glad I have mine sitting on a TV table.
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Have a single fan after losing a MB in the first month.
Why Members refuse to take preventative action, and instead quote `There's nothing in the Manual about a fan!'. There's different elevations - the higher you go, the harder it is on a Plasma. There's different climatic degree variations. There's different power fluctuations. Clean/dirty power issues. There's electrical and electronic interferences. A good 750 VA or greater UPS, plus a ventilation fan at least over the upper left hand corner, does wonders. Why are Members so opposed to safe guarding a few thousand dollar investment - got me?
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Good point. I have mine wall mounted with an older mount that keeps it roughly 4" away, just for that reason.

What puzzles me is why they list one of those ultra-flush mounting kits (two circles? with a cable) as an accessory for this tv, which contradicts the manual.
My interpretation of the photo in the manual was that there was to be minimum clearance on the sides, top, and bottom of the display. I didn't read it as minimum space behind the panel. To me, the suggested mounting kit confirmed this idea. Now you've got me wondering if I interpreted it incorrectly.
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Following the manufacture's minimum recommendations to me means that unit is not likely to fail in the warranty period. But of course I am a cynic who believe that Murphy was an optimist.
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You could be right. I come from a very different industry. One where I don't even know what the warranty period is on the products I'm developing. I design for and recommend service intervals for infinite life. Probably for that reason, my first instinct is "Do what they said in the manual and you'll be fine." I should maybe be more careful/skeptical about assuming other industries do the same.

Oh well. I know they didn't design for forced convection. Hopefully whatever impediment to natural convection I've created is offset by the fans.
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After taking a look, perhaps I was wrong. The clearance in the manual may just be referring to top and sides and not rear.

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@JRWalker Thank you for your reply. That was the first thing I asked the technician who came to check the TV and he said my ventilation is more than enough.

Let me tell you how the cabient is:
The back of the cabient is not solid it has many circular 4 inch holes. There is another 3-4 inch between the wall and back of the cabient. The space between the back of the TV and the back of the cabient is 9 inch.
Then there is 3 inch space on the left and 3 inches on the right side.
There is another 12 inches space from the upper side of the TV until the upper end of the cabient.
So the TV has enough space on all sides. Even the technician who brought the TV said my setup would give the TV better ventilation from the back than mounting it on the wall.

Whenever the TV is on the air conditioner in that room is on too. Touching the metal stand or the back of the tv shows how cool it is when it is switched on even for long hours.

The fault is still unknown, I just hope it is not the panel because it is hard to look for another good TV. I don't want a LED TV. Plasma choices are limited and this TV suits my needs more than any other plasma TV.
Hopefully I will know in a week of time what needs to be done.

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@Halimali Below is your picture that I remembered. It does not show if your drapes cover the cabinet back on the left, which is always the hottest area of the set, nor the distance the cabinet is from the wall.

Hope that get your set fixed soon.
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All of sudden, about 3 days ago, the anynet+ stopped working and now I can't get it to recognize my receiver! This is extremely frustrating and now my receiver and speakers are useless and I can't use headphones late at night.

Maybe it was part of the last update?
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1203 is causing my tv to lockup randomly. Never happened before the update....sigh
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1203 is causing my tv to lockup randomly. Never happened before the update....sigh
Did you try doing a reset? Just be aware that it will delete your saved settings.
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