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post #12961 of 13069 Old 03-21-2015, 04:53 PM
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I'm looking for recommended Picture Options setting for watching sports.Mostly football, basketball, soccer. Fast moving images. Cable DVR to TV via HDMI.

In particular, settings for Film Mode and Motion Judder Canceller. I've experimented with various combinations but can't seem to decide which is best.

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I've read it can be helpful for 3D viewing. Maybe it varies with the source material, have not noticed much difference there either and don't watch 3D enough to be conscious of it.

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I'm having lip sync issues and not sure if it's my display or Oppo 103D. My connection is STB > Oppo > AVR > Display with HDMI cables. When I'm watching a local HD channel and there's a commercial break in standard def., the syncing issue occurs and does not correct itself when returning to current HD programing. I have to turn off/on either display/player to get back on track. There are no lip sync issues as long as the source stays in HD. My display is a 64f8500. Note, i posted this in the Oppo thread and got no replys.
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I'm having lip sync issues and not sure if it's my display or Oppo 103D. My connection is STB > Oppo > AVR > Display with HDMI cables. When I'm watching a local HD channel and there's a commercial break in standard def., the syncing issue occurs and does not correct itself when returning to current HD programing. I have to turn off/on either display/player to get back on track. There are no lip sync issues as long as the source stays in HD. My display is a 64f8500. Note, i posted this in the Oppo thread and got no replys.
Try matching the lip sync time delay on Oppo to match the lip sync time delay that the F8500 uses. Go to Sound, Digital audio out, and then Audio Delay on TV. By default, mine was set to 70 ms. I set my AVR to match that. Since you send it to your OPPO and then AVR, you can either set your AVR or OPPO to match the audio delay.
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For sports I leave Film Mode Off since it is live. MJC Off or Standard, but I don't see any difference. Of course, with 720p channels such as ESPN, Film mode is greyed out because it is not needed since 60 fps is native with 720p.
Thanks. Those are the setting I've been using for the tournament since they looked best to me.
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So I hung my TV finally tonight, after having it a little over a year on the stand. Its the first step in my media room, to getting the room completed.
I hung it using this Cheetah Mount.

Since I've never really seen the TV hung up on the wall, where I can sort of look up at it, I've never noticed anything wrong with the plastic framing of the TV, till I hung it tonight.
Im not sure if its the pressure from the cheetah mount or what, but it appears to be warping the top left portion of the frame above the screen. Maybe it was there before and I never noticed it, maybe its common for this to happen with TV mounts, maybe I've done something wrong with the mount? I'll try to post a picture of it so you can see, but just wondering if this has been seen before from people who hung their 64" version of this TV?

Its like a small gap where the plastic frame has waved outward.

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Here are some photo, see if you can find the bowing/warping whatever...





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Thats not normal....

The upper left is where the processor for the tv is located and is the hottest place, so the plastic in that area may be a bit softer than elsewhere.

But I have had mine mounted with the official samsung mounting system, and have not had that issue at all.
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That warping is not good. Especially since the frame around the edges of the screen is actually aluminum and not plastic. For the aluminum to bulge out like that, there has to be some serious stress on the tv.
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My guess is your frame was already like that and you never noticed. No matter what wall mount you use ... there is no pressure in that area. Every bit of pressure us centralized on the back of the panel. There should be zero stress up there ....especially in the front. I have my 64" on a Sanus mount ..no issues
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Post better pictures. .. too dark
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Frame was bent from factory. . Should be able to have replaced easily
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first, I can not accept ANY responsibility for this, and I am not suggesting you do anything...


the last time I pulled the back panel off mine, when I put it back on I had a similar 'bowing' as I guess I didn't line it up properly. I just squeezed it a bit and it snapped into place.


I wouldn't be surprised if there's nothing 'damaged' on your tv, it's just not in place. removing a couple screws from the back so that it's free to move, then moving it into place may be all you have to do

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Wow, so many opinions on this one. I really thought I would have noticed this before hand, I'm pretty anal about the TV and even smudges the kids put on the screen freak me out. I might take it down to see if the bowing goes away. Someone at work said that he read these TVs have glue issues up there I tried to push it back in and it went in a little but its still noticeable.

I bought this TV last year from Conns, not sure what the Samsung warranty is on it, would they have another one to give me, I don't really want to swap for LED, unless its a 64" 4K, lol. I love the plasma. I hope its not stressed.

I'm using Cheetah stand, that I linked, do you think I got a bad stand, cheap stand that isn't good for this TV?
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Post better pictures. .. too dark
Ok I will go take some now that its daylight out, hopefully it will help you all see the warping. Wondering if I should move this post to the defects thread on this TV model?
I do not mind the opinions here, if others don't mind me posting here?
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Its not warped ...it will pop back in. It clicks in. Its just popper out is all.
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I tried to push it back in it helped a little but it's not going in all the way.
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It's not noticeable from the viewing area only when up close. Here are a few more pics...






Looking at the back of the mount not sure if I see anything bad, no bowing etc, but the middle part of the plate seems to be only touching it on the bottom not near the top of that plate...





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Its hard to get good shots up there, the lighting is dark over in that area where the TV is and I don't have another way to get better light. Sorry.
If its a decent shot at getting Samsung to deal with this I might consider it, but otherwise the TV is working good. Not sure how I feel about this articulating dual arm mount.
I almost just want to try the tilt kind, once I get the wires behind the TV tidied up.
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Its not warped ...it will pop back in. It clicks in. Its just popper out is all.
It very well may have been warped this entire time and I never noticed it.
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My panel was replaced so I got to see the F8500 in all its 'disassembled glory'. You'd be shocked at how flimsy it is without the back cover sandwiching it all into place. But that's the nature of consumer electronics nowadays.

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No i did some research since then on your behalf
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If it were mine and pic is good and its not noticeable at normal distances. .. i wouldn't touch or chance anything. These tvs are about inpossible to get now ( at reasonable price anyways ).
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If it were mine and pic is good and its not noticeable at normal distances. .. i wouldn't touch or chance anything. These tvs are about inpossible to get now ( at reasonable price anyways ).

Yeah I agree. I'll probably just leave it alone, the picture is fine, great to me. It's no 4k but it will do!
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4k ehhhh ... ya they look cool but the picture is unrealistic and too sharp. Cool technology .... rather have a nice natural realistic picture with better blacks ;-)
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I believe samsung gives you 15 month warranty if you register it online. If you are under that you could try getting bezel replaced. Not big deal if you cant...barely a cosmetic issue. Either way just enjoy your set
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My panel was replaced so I got to see the F8500 in all its 'disassembled glory'. You'd be shocked at how flimsy it is without the back cover sandwiching it all into place. But that's the nature of consumer electronics nowadays.
yup, once I removed the back panel, there was no way I could move it around. I had planned to, but had to twist myself to get behind the tv instead. but then, I guess we shouldn't expect a one inch wide piece of plastic to be 'structural'

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If the tv is working fine, I wouldn't worry too much. I can't imagine anything you did bent the aluminum bezel like that.
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Ok so besides my little bent case issue I have one more issue I wanted opinions on. I hung the TV, first time it's been hung, and the builder put a power outlet and wall plate where pre wired cables come out, right smack dab in the middle of the wall. So my mount which is a Cheetah Mount dual arm type has that solid plate that doesn't allow me to mount in the middle. I had to choose to move it to the left or right of the two wall plates. So when looking at my TV it doesn't look center of the wall especially with the two lights on left and right.



Does this bug you enough to want to maybe change it? Part of me just says leave this be and part of me wants it center dammit.
I could possibly move it above or below the two wall plates.

Or get just a simple tilt mount that has a big open center to allow me to move horizontally over the wall plates and center the TV.

I don't really need to move the TV out and turn it because you can see it from all angles of the room. I could repurpose this mount downstairs above the fireplace, then get the tilt only mount for this one. It's been bugging me, and the size and weight of this TV on that moveable mount kind of freaks me out. It's holding fine but I might feel better with it more close to wall and less movement?!

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Ok so besides my little bent case issue I have one more issue I wanted opinions on. I hung the TV, first time it's been hung, and the builder put a power outlet and wall plate where pre wired cables come out, right smack dab in the middle of the wall. So my mount which is a Cheetah Mount dual arm type has that solid plate that doesn't allow me to mount in the middle. I had to choose to move it to the left or right of the two wall plates. So when looking at my TV it doesn't look center of the wall especially with the two lights on left and right.



Does this bug you enough to want to maybe change it? Part of me just says leave this be and part of me wants it center dammit.
I could possibly move it above or below the two wall plates.

Or get just a simple tilt mount that has a big open center to allow me to move horizontally over the wall plates and center the TV.

I don't really need to move the TV out and turn it because you can see it from all angles of the room. I could repurpose this mount downstairs above the fireplace, then get the tilt only mount for this one. It's been bugging me, and the size and weight of this TV on that moveable mount kind of freaks me out. It's holding fine but I might feel better with it more close to wall and less movement?!
It wouldn't bug me because once the lights are out, you won't even notice that it is off center. However, if it dig bug me, I would move it because I would never get over it and it would always be in the back of my mind. BTW, nice setup!
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