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There are no LEDs that come anywhere near a plasma.

OLED comes close, but some have issues with the motion presented; I've never been bothered at all when watching Blu-rays at local Best Buys as long as you turn all the motion smoothing options off.
The two FALD models I listed do come close. Calibrators on this forum have shown the blacks on those two models as low as the F8500. Granted, the F8500 is not the best at blacks when compared to the VT/ZT or Kuros. The F8500 is superior to the Samsung JS9500 when it comes to motion, with the Sony producing excellent motion. Where the F8500 truly excels is viewing angles. LED will never match plasma.
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Here a review of both the Sony and Samsung models by Chad B.

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I would still get another F8500 as a replacement, but the black levels on the Sony are as good as the F8500. However, you sacrifice viewing angles with any LED TV.
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The two FALD models I listed do come close. Calibrators on this forum have shown the blacks on those two models as low as the F8500. Granted, the F8500 is not the best at blacks when compared to the VT/ZT or Kuros. The F8500 is superior to the Samsung JS9500 when it comes to motion, with the Sony producing excellent motion. Where the F8500 truly excels is viewing angles. LED will never match plasma.
Close perhaps, but few things bother me more than blooming, which both the models listed do.

Quite frankly, though the 8500 may have slightly elevated black levels compared to others, it's a huge improvement over my 2004 TH-50PHD6UY.
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Close perhaps, but few things bother me more than blooming, which both the models listed do.

Quite frankly, though the 8500 may have slightly elevated black levels compared to others, it's a huge improvement over my 2004 TH-50PHD6UY.
I agree with the blooming issues with FALD. Unfortunately for the previous poster, they are only offering him an LED tv as a replacement. So all we can really do is recommend the best available ones out there.
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The two FALD models I listed do come close. Calibrators on this forum have shown the blacks on those two models as low as the F8500. Granted, the F8500 is not the best at blacks when compared to the VT/ZT or Kuros. The F8500 is superior to the Samsung JS9500 when it comes to motion, with the Sony producing excellent motion. Where the F8500 truly excels is viewing angles. LED will never match plasma.
No matter what these manufacturers do to an LCD to get them to match Plasma, they will still inherent the same annoying issues of flash-lighting, clouding and with FALD, blooming. No matter how much tweaking from calibrators, blacks will never be consistent when the viewing angles suck so badly.
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Kind of a bummer Samsung removed the movie app. It was actually kind of slick. I didn't use it much but it was nice to be able to search across all the streaming movie services.
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Kind of a bummer Samsung removed the movie app. It was actually kind of slick. I didn't use it much but it was nice to be able to search across all the streaming movie services.
Sad. They remove something useful but keep around those annoying banners to remind you they are going to make changes and there's no way to get rid of the banner until they remove a month later. The only way to prevent Samsung from controlling our TV's is to disconnect them from the internet.
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