Originally Posted by tbird8450
You will know weather you have the "right" amount of detail primarily by measuring gamma. There is almost always detail within dark areas of the screen that you are not supposed to see per the filmmakers/engineers who mastered whatever you are watching. There is a point somewhere between crushing blacks and dialing in too much shadow detail that is accurate and correct to the source. You can only arrive at this point by calibrating and measuring. Marketing spin doesn't mean much to me unless there is hard data to back it up. How many goofy claims have we seen because of things like dynamic contrast, or subfield drives, or yellow sub-pixels, etc etc...?
It is very easy to crush blacks on the Kuros, especially if you are working outside of the ISFccc modes, but it is certainly possible not to.
I understand what you're saying, but I'm not sure that properly explains all
of what we saw last night. They claimed the Kuro was calibrated just as was the ZT. Do I buy it? Probably not, but based more on color than shadow detail. I think the detail that was revealed at the lowest IRE settings of the ZT was meant to be seen. The Kuro didn't show it either because it may
have been improperly adjusted (as I though the color was) or because it simply couldn't respond to that low an input signal. I did find the technical explanation very believable. I can certainly recognize 'hype' and differentiate that from fact.
I've never approached the Kuro with the thought that anything that another display shows or does differently is a classic case that the other display is wrong. IOW, I know the Kuro was not perfect and improvements can and have been made. The motion handling, although 60p, showed an immensely different ability to clearly depict the motion. There was really no comparison. The reds were clearly 'redder' with less orange, even when conforming to Rec709 (not the DCI color space). As I said, despite the digitaltrends review, I thought the Kuro still bested, although just marginally, the ZT's black levels. I also felt the ZT was sharper than the Kuro as I've found the F8500 to be sharper than the Kuro.
I'm being objective and yes, this is just MO. I saw the flaws in the A/B last night and said so, but I will give credit where credit is due. I have no axe to grind, no manufacturer to protect and no display that I own that am afraid is being 'outclassed'. I'm after the best PQ, pure and simple.