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^^^^^You are a brave soul Not a lot of people here venture into the service menu anymore especially since Panasonic put the usage hours on the main menu itself. Be careful milling about in there.
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Put in D-nice's and CNET's settings. Skin tones and colors in general are probably a bit more accurate with CNET's settings, but I like the pop in the colors D-nice's settings provide. Both are outstanding and much better than any built in settings. I had to use True Cinema mode rather than Cinema mode for CNET's settings on my TH-P42ST60W. Most settings are grayed out in Cinema mode.

After some comparing, I think I have settled on CNET's settings, but I appreciate having both. Shadow detail and color accuracy just seems superior with the CNET settings.

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My TH-P42ST60W has developed a stuck red pixel on the lower left corner. It came out right around the 150 hour mark. I am sure it wasn't there before because it sticks out easily on the light D-Nice slides. Hopefully it clears itself up eventually, but I cannot see it during normal viewing. I probably would have never seen it if I had stopped running the slides. I plan to run them often until I reach the 500 hour mark. Luckily I have mellowed with age...I would have been pissed when I was younger.

EDIT - The stuck pixel fixed itself already! WOOT!

Found these settings for the 42" model...
http://www.avforums.com/threads/panasonic-tx-p42st60b-reviewers-recommended-best-settings.1785807/

Very similar end result to the CNET settings but a good bit dimmer. I moved them over to the custom mode as an alternative to my favorite, the CNET settings. I don't need the D-Nice settings any longer...much too red for my taste.

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I have a couple of questions in regards to the North American TC-PxxZT60 Reference Settings.

  1. In the Pro Settings I don't see an option for "Normal" under Color Gaumut. What I do see are the following: Native, Rec. 709, SMPTE-C, EBU.
  2. Under the HDMI/DVI RGB Range settings, I don't see an option for "Off". What I see are: Auto, Nonstandard, Standard (16-235).

I would also like to thank D-Nice for sharing his settings. It is very much appreciated!
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I have a couple of questions in regards to the North American TC-PxxZT60 Reference Settings.

  1. In the Pro Settings I don't see an option for "Normal" under Color Gaumut. What I do see are the following: Native, Rec. 709, SMPTE-C, EBU.
  2. Under the HDMI/DVI RGB Range settings, I don't see an option for "Off". What I see are: Auto, Nonstandard, Standard (16-235).

I would also like to thank D-Nice for sharing his settings. It is very much appreciated!
Should be rec709 and off refers to hdmi content type .
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Should be rec709 and off refers to hdmi content type .
I noticed d-nice has gamma at 2.4 for day mode. Isn't too high for day time viewing? Why Not 2.2 or lower?

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2.4 is a gamma preset, it actually measures closer to 2.2. It is a starting point for a calibration and then the gamma is adjusted to whatever the target its. My calibrated day mode is 2.2.

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Should be rec709 and off refers to hdmi content type .
chunon, thanks for your response.

So should I leave the HDMI/DVI RGB Range on its default setting "Standard (16-235)" then?
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chunon, thanks for your response.

So should I leave the HDMI/DVI RGB Range on its default setting "Standard (16-235)" then?
It depends in the source but yes for the majority of sources it should be either auto or standard.
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It depends in the source but yes for the majority of sources it should be either auto or standard.
Okay then, thanks for that clarification.
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I noticed d-nice has gamma at 2.4 for day mode. Isn't too high for day time viewing? Why Not 2.2 or lower?
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2.4 is a gamma preset, it actually measures closer to 2.2. It is a starting point for a calibration and then the gamma is adjusted to whatever the target its. My calibrated day mode is 2.2.
Gotcha...so I can adjust it as needed and it won't affect gamma target?
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There seems to be some question about what Gamut to choose in are VT60 settings.
Below are three screen shots, the first screen shot is of the Native setting, the second screen shot is of the Rec. 709 setting.
The two screen shots are from my last calibration when I had my VT60 set to Native when running the calibration.
The first screen shot I had my VT60 set to Native.
The second screen shot I had my VT60 set to Rec. 709. This screen shot is just to show the difference in the CIE chart. If I had my VT60 set to Rec. 709 when I ran the calibration the second screen shot would be close to the third screen shot
As you can see the Native Gamut is larger, and larger is usually considered better.
The third screen shot is of my last calibration I did using Gamut setting of Rec. 709 when I ran the calibration.
As you can see not bad, but Green and Cyan miss dead center and slightly higher color errors.

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Gotcha...so I can adjust it as needed and it won't affect gamma target?

No it affects the gamma. There is no control you can adjust without some effect .
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Do you guys notice a big difference in shadow detail with D-Nice's settings VS CNET's settings? On my TH-P42ST60W (Taiwan model), shadow detail is much better with CNET's at gamma 2.2 and I don't notice any difference in contrast. The red tint to D-Nice's settings is a huge turn off for me as well.
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