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^^^ replied to your PM also I am rebooting that server remotely... we are on the road and will be back by early morning..

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Hello

I have a problem with my 42GT60. In certain scenes - when there is darkness and bright light on the screen, the TV flashes green once for a split second. There is no pattern in timing of those flashes - sometimes there are 2 in 5 minutes, sometimes 2 in 2 hours, nor in their shape - sometimes its big green rectangle half a screen high, sometimes it is narrow green diagonal rectangle, other time it is a green line. The problem is not in the HDMI cable - i tried four, nor it is in the source of the signal - ps3, ps4, WiiU.... The source material dont matter also - TV flashes whether im watching movie, playing a game or when i am in static menu.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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hey,

Im trying to register onto the calibrationforums so I can download D-Nice settings for the VT-60,

however I cannot register due to their confirmation key not displaying properly.

Is anyone else having problems registering??

Alternatively, does anyone here have the D-Nice settings for the VT-60?

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Sent a PM to you turbe. Same error is occuring on their site.

I am still having problems with this as well. Tried sending turbe a PM but not able to due to my post count being under 15.

Does anyone know if the D-Nice settings over at ControlCAL.com are any different from the ones found here?
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^^^ try it again in 5 mins.. you can also use the alternate domain.

this time of year, there is heavy traffic, I went ahead and rebooted that server.
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^^^ try it again in 5 mins.. you can also use the alternate domain.

this time of year, there is heavy traffic, I went ahead and rebooted that server.
Yes, that worked!

Thank you for your help and responding so quickly.
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Hello to all at AVS.
I'm from Italy and finally I got a chance to grab one of these magnificent PDP. I never saw similar, stunning pictures, coming from a TV set.
But now here is my little problem:
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[CUT]...I have a problem with my 42GT60. In certain scenes - when there is darkness and bright light on the screen, the TV flashes green once for a split second. There is no pattern in timing of those flashes...[CUT]
Me, too. It happens in a very random way. But seems to me that isn't "bright light over darkness" related.
Sometimes it never appears, or only once in a couple of hours, some others more frequently. Same PDP make/model (TX-P42GT60), bought a month and a half ago, now with about 130 hours of total use.
Any ideas?
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anyone know the ft lamberts for d-nices setting for day mode zt60
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North American TC-PxxVT60 Reference Settings

I've been using D-Nice's setting on my P55VT60 for around 4,000 hours, the results are not short of brilliant (excuse the pun). However as time goes on the display seems to have "dulled" down, not quite as vibrant as before. Is this an issue in aging Plasma's and are there some adjustments that can be made to bring back the sort of quality I had previously? I'm certainly a noob at these things so maybe this should be expected but on a panel that rates at 100,000 hours I'm sure there could be some tweaks to bring the display back to life again.
I do realize that not all panels are the same so my settings may not have been 100% to begin with but just getting back to the original quality that D-Nice's settings gave would be great.

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I used D-Nice's settings as a baseline for my ZT60 and it has actually gotten brighter over time, so the oppostite of what you are experiencing. My be time for a touch up calibration.

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I've been using D-Nice's setting on my P55VT60 for around 4,000 hours, the results are not short of brilliant (excuse the pun). However as time goes on the display seems to have "dulled" down, not quite as vibrant as before. Is this an issue in aging Plasma's and are there some adjustments that can be made to bring back the sort of quality I had previously? I'm certainly a noob at these things so maybe this should be expected but on a panel that rates at 100,000 hours I'm sure there could be some tweaks to bring the display back to life again.
I do realize that not all panels are the same so my settings may not have been 100% to begin with but just getting back to the original quality that D-Nice's settings gave would be great.
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Settings for VT60
Picture Mode:HDMI Pro 1 or 2, Internet Pro 1 or 2
Contrast: 68
Brightness:+4
Color: 48
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Normal
Vivid Color: Off
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Off
MPEG NR: Off
Motion Smoother: Off


Pro Settings
Panel Brightness: Mid
AGC: 0
Black Extension: 0
Color Gamut:Rec.709
W/B Detail Adjustment
W/B High R:-8
W/B High G: 0
W/B High B:-13
W/B Low R:+2
W/B Low G: 0
W/B Low B:-4

(W/B) More Detail Adjustment
10 W/B R:+1
10 W/B G: 0
10 W/B B:+25

20 W/B R:-3
20 W/B G: 0
20 W/B B: 0

30 W/B R: 0
30 W/B G: 0
30 W/B B:-2

40 W/B R: 0
40 W/B G: 0
40 W/B B:-2

50 W/B R: 0
50 W/B G: 0
50 W/B B: 0

60 W/B R: 0
60 W/B G: 0
60 W/B B: 0

70 W/B R: 0
70 W/B G: 0
70 W/B B: 0

80 W/B R: 0
80 W/B G: 0
80 W/B B: 0

90 W/B R: 0
90 W/B G: 0
90 W/B B: 0

100 W/B R:-4
100 W/B G: 0
100 W/B B: 0

Color Detail Adjustments
Red hue:+2
Red saturation:-4
Red luminance 0
Green hue:+7
Green saturation:+7
Green luminance:0
Blue hue:0
Blue saturation:0
Blue luminance:0
Cyan hue:-4
Cyan saturation:0
Cyan luminance:+2
Magenta hue:+17
Magenta saturation:0
Magenta luminance:-8
Yellow hue:0
Yellow saturation:0
Yellow luminace:0

Gamma Detail Adjustment
Gamma: 2.4
(Gamma) More Detail Adjustment
10 Gain:-20
20 Gain:-8
30 Gain:-4
40 Gain:+3
50 Gain:+3
60 Gain:+3
70 Gain: 0
80 Gain:-1
90 Gain:-4
100 Gain:0

Advance Picture
Game mode: Off
96Hz :Note you must be sending your VT60 a 1080P@24p signal (Blu Ray disc playing) to be able to set this setting.
3:2 PullDown: Auto

HDMI Content Type and auto detailing.
Off

HDMI/DVI RGB Range
Standard (16-235)

Black Level: Light

Screen format, Full
Overscan, Off
H Size, 1
Screen display, On
4:3 side bars Off (for Blu Ray disc) High for non Blu Ray.
Pixel orbiter, Auto

I used a Klein K10-A and a Jeti 1211 for this calibration.

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^^^
ss, how do these differ from the LUT profile Professional Mode settings you posted previously?

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ss, how do these differ from the LUT profile Professional Mode settings you posted previously?
The new settings are for those that just use the available CMS/Gamut and Lumance/Gamma settings in there VT60.

Also note the new settings use color gamut Rec.709. With a 3DLUT I use color gamut Native.
The reason for color gamut native is because its a larger gamut and shifts the gamut to the right, therefore the gamut lines up better for the Green primary. Plus I run a 10500 color point measurement profile that sets the 65000 point 3DLUT.
When using a normal type calibration (10 point grayscale, 6 point CMS), imo using the Rec.709 is a better way to go when understanding the natural color gamut of the VT60 and using a small fraction of color points that the 3DLUT uses.

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The new settings are for those that just use the available CMS/Gamut and Lumance/Gamma settings in there VT60.

Also note the new settings use color gamut Rec.709. With a 3DLUT I use color gamut Native.
The reason for color gamut native is because its a larger gamut and shifts the gamut to the right, therefore the gamut lines up better for the Green primary. Plus I run a 10500 color point measurement profile that sets the 65000 point 3DLUT.
When using a normal type calibration (10 point grayscale, 6 point CMS), imo using the Rec.709 is a better way to go when understanding the natural color gamut of the VT60 and using a small fraction of color points that the 3DLUT uses.

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So if I don't have a 3DLUT box would I be better off with the new settings? I input the 3DLUT settings a while back, but wasn't sure if it was necessary to have a 3DLUT box.
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What's the light output for the new settings sillysally? I plugged them in just for kicks, and it's a REAL dark picture even compared to my D-Nice ISF night mode. I'd be surprised if it's pushing out 25 ftL. Just curious.
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So if I don't have a 3DLUT box would I be better off with the new settings? I input the 3DLUT settings a while back, but wasn't sure if it was necessary to have a 3DLUT box.
If you don't have a 3DLUT box, then try them both and see what you like better.
The old settings are more generic and have a better chance of working for more VT60. However there are folks that wanted to try the complete settings that they could input and try in there VT60's.

imo, the "New" settings work pretty well for Pro 1 & 2 Internet settings, streaming @ 1080.
The New settings are to minimize artifacts and banding when streaming Netflix. You do need to be streaming internet to input the new settings into "Internet Pro 1 or 2".

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Overheating concern

I count myself lucky to have found a VT60 55 in an appliance shop just after Xmas.
I knew this was one of the last great Plasma's.
It was on display unfortunately, so running slides and other run period procedures, I just had to let go of.

My concern now though, is the heat the back panel gets to after an hour or so of viewing. It gets too hot to touch, if looking at the screen, on the top right next to the vent.
Although I can hear fan noise when the plasma is on, It is not cooling sufficiently IMO.
I have wall mounted it using a bracket but this is over the large wall cavity where a CRT once stood. So i doubt it is a result of restricted airflow.

I'm guessing it could be a warranty query.
Any advice?
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...My concern now though, is the heat the back panel gets to after an hour or so of viewing. It gets too hot to touch, if looking at the screen, on the top right next to the vent. Although I can hear fan noise when the plasma is on, It is not cooling sufficiently IMO.
I have wall mounted it using a bracket but this is over the large wall cavity where a CRT once stood. So i doubt it is a result of restricted airflow...Any advice?
Like you, I once mounted a plasma over a big cavity that once held a huge CRT, and I placed a simple $15 table top air circulation fan inside the cavity behind the plasma TV. I was able to plug the fan into a switched outlet on my audio-visual receiver so that the fan turned ON or OFF with the AVR power ON/OFF; worked great and it was quiet.

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My hand calibrated settings: Looks 'accurate' but also quite pleasing, great detail

Hello all. I have pretty discerning eyes.
Lots of us ofcourse prefer watching our movies calibrated, in a dark room, where possible.

But, in brighter light, watching TV, eh. not always.
These are my daily watching settings.
I hope they make things better for someone who's not happy with theirs yet.

any dash is a negative number.

Picture Mode Cinema
Contrast 80 to 90
Brightness 8
Color 64
Tint 0
Sharpness 80
Color temp Warm2
Vivid Color Off
C.A.T.S. Off
Video NR Off

Panel Brightness HIGH
Color range Normal

GAMMA 2.2
IRE
100 -6
90 -5
80 -4
70 -3
60 -2
50 -1
40 -1
30 0
20 0
10 0


Color Detail Adjustments
Red Hue 8
Red Saturation 12
Red Luminance 6
Green Hue -6
Green Saturation 30
Green Luminance 12
Blue Hue -20
Blue Saturation 14
Blue Luminance 4

White Balance Adjustment
W/B high R 6
W/B high G 8
W/B high B 2
W/B low R 6
W/B low G 3
W/B low B 2

More detail adjustments
10 IRE
Red gain -25
Green gain -5
Blue gain 10
20 IRE
Red gain -2
Green gain -5
Blue gain 9
30 IRE
Red gain 5
Green gain -5
Blue gain 1
40 IRE
Red gain 12
Green gain 3
Blue gain 5
50 IRE
Red gain 1
Green gain -5
Blue gain -9
60 IRE
Red gain -5
Green gain -5
Blue gain -12
70 IRE
Red gain -4
Green gain -5
Blue gain -12
80 IRE
Red gain 4
Green gain -5
Blue gain -6
90 IRE
Red gain 0
Green gain -6
Blue gain -3
100 IRE
Red gain 2
Green gain -5
Blue gain -1

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Hello all. I have pretty discerning eyes.
Lots of us ofcourse prefer watching our movies calibrated, in a dark room, where possible.

But, in brighter light, watching TV, eh. not always.
These are my daily watching settings.
I hope they make things better for someone who's not happy with theirs yet.

any dash is a negative number.

Picture Mode Cinema
Contrast 80 to 90
Brightness 8
Color 64
Tint 0
Sharpness 80
Color temp Warm2
Vivid Color Off
C.A.T.S. Off
Video NR Off

Panel Brightness HIGH
Color range Normal

GAMMA 2.2
IRE
100 -6
90 -5
80 -4
70 -3
60 -2
50 -1
40 -1
30 0
20 0
10 0


Color Detail Adjustments
Red Hue 8
Red Saturation 12
Red Luminance 6
Green Hue -6
Green Saturation 30
Green Luminance 12
Blue Hue -20
Blue Saturation 14
Blue Luminance 4

White Balance Adjustment
W/B high R 6
W/B high G 8
W/B high B 2
W/B low R 6
W/B low G 3
W/B low B 2

More detail adjustments
10 IRE
Red gain -25
Green gain -5
Blue gain 10
20 IRE
Red gain -2
Green gain -5
Blue gain 9
30 IRE
Red gain 5
Green gain -5
Blue gain 1
40 IRE
Red gain 12
Green gain 3
Blue gain 5
50 IRE
Red gain 1
Green gain -5
Blue gain -9
60 IRE
Red gain -5
Green gain -5
Blue gain -12
70 IRE
Red gain -4
Green gain -5
Blue gain -12
80 IRE
Red gain 4
Green gain -5
Blue gain -6
90 IRE
Red gain 0
Green gain -6
Blue gain -3
100 IRE
Red gain 2
Green gain -5
Blue gain -1

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Have your "discerning" eyes not picked up all the ringing caused by setting your sharpness to 80 ?!

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Well, my understanding is that all Plasma are kind of 'on their own' based on how they were broken in. Mine was not controlled, having been a retail model for over a year that I got out of Sears last summer.

It was burn in free and didn't even have any ghosting from the magnetic retention that happens, so that was good.

Those as I said are intended to be enjoyable settings for a bright room. I said a good range is of 80-90 , 85 probably is the sweet spot, but, i like it at 90 personally.
I'm in Cinema mode, which on Panasonics seems the only guaranteed mode to bring out the full shading range.
This is not intended to be an ISF calibrated or movie viewing environment setting.

As to your quoting the word discerning and using question exclamation points to indicate sarcasm toward my own statement, i find it rude and childish if throwing my effort back in my face and inferring i'm dumb is your intent.
I took the time to write out all of those settings hoping its close for someone else's tv to make things better for them.
My friends think it's a great picture on my tv. human skin tones come out well, white is quite white, BW is very BW, no blue, not green, no red. Again, it's a bit rich, not burn out vivid, but pleasing in a bright environment.
For a TV burned in from day one on tv signals and not with a standard 200 hour darkroom test, it might match up well.
I worked in the home theater industry for 10 years doing work for SONY and Panasonic, so I DO KNOW what a great picture is, and my BFF is a current territory manager for one of those companies and agrees this looks great on my equipment, i'm passing it along for others to try.

I would encourage any constructive feedback from someone who perhaps has more experience or does ISF work if any of those settings are potentially detrimental to the panel however. I know bright always is in theory going to age a panel faster, but, i want that look for my daily view.
The sharpness does look fine at that setting, as we watch lots of wrestling and sports/baseball around here, and like to see really fine details in close ups.
I might turn it back and review some video though to see if it doesn't soften things too much. I am staring at a Quicken Loans commercial talking about HARP right now and see banding and have noticed it, but none of these digital tv's are perfect with respect to banding at any setting that typically doesn't mute the picture alot.

Basically, on this set, it achieves on known sources accurate slightly punched color, which is better and reveals way more detail than vivid.
The Gamma changes seemed to work great, doing most of the work on white out scenarios, like on Baltimore Oriole uniforms, bringing the highs down to visible detail, which is one of my real world white out tests I happen to be using since it's baseball season.

It's a look i know isn't 'scientifically calibrated' but i really like it after months of hand adjusting it and just want to see if it helps anyone else out. I see color very very well and I like it, but it also makes me fidgit until adjustments look near perfect to me, lots of people it won't matter because they are near color blind and were just born that way. This forum is here to offer help and opinions, this is one.

I just read your signature, congrats on having the ZT and all that other lovely stuff listed there. It's nice, good for you. I see your tv is ISF calibrated... honestly surprised you bothered, that panel was amazing in stores when we were selling them, but, better is better. I must have moved a few dozen personally, just beautiful. I'm not sure an OLED has actually beaten it yet as I suspect many of them are using 10 bit drivers, particularly the LG as i found that in their documentation.
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Well, my understanding is that all Plasma are kind of 'on their own' based on how they were broken in. Mine was not controlled, having been a retail model for over a year that I got out of Sears last summer.

It was burn in free and didn't even have any ghosting from the magnetic retention that happens, so that was good.

Those as I said are intended to be enjoyable settings for a bright room. I said a good range is of 80-90 , 85 probably is the sweet spot, but, i like it at 90 personally.
I'm in Cinema mode, which on Panasonics seems the only guaranteed mode to bring out the full shading range.
This is not intended to be an ISF calibrated or movie viewing environment setting.

As to your quoting the word discerning and using question exclamation points to indicate sarcasm toward my own statement, i find it rude and childish if throwing my effort back in my face and inferring i'm dumb is your intent.
I took the time to write out all of those settings hoping its close for someone else's tv to make things better for them.
My friends think it's a great picture on my tv. human skin tones come out well, white is quite white, BW is very BW, no blue, not green, no red. Again, it's a bit rich, not burn out vivid, but pleasing in a bright environment.
For a TV burned in from day one on tv signals and not with a standard 200 hour darkroom test, it might match up well.
I worked in the home theater industry for 10 years doing work for SONY and Panasonic, so I DO KNOW what a great picture is, and my BFF is a current territory manager for one of those companies and agrees this looks great on my equipment, i'm passing it along for others to try.

I would encourage any constructive feedback from someone who perhaps has more experience or does ISF work if any of those settings are potentially detrimental to the panel however. I know bright always is in theory going to age a panel faster, but, i want that look for my daily view.
The sharpness does look fine at that setting, as we watch lots of wrestling and sports/baseball around here, and like to see really fine details in close ups.
I might turn it back and review some video though to see if it doesn't soften things too much. I am staring at a Quicken Loans commercial talking about HARP right now and see banding and have noticed it, but none of these digital tv's are perfect with respect to banding at any setting that typically doesn't mute the picture alot.

Basically, on this set, it achieves on known sources accurate slightly punched color, which is better and reveals way more detail than vivid.
The Gamma changes seemed to work great, doing most of the work on white out scenarios, like on Baltimore Oriole uniforms, bringing the highs down to visible detail, which is one of my real world white out tests I happen to be using since it's baseball season.

It's a look i know isn't 'scientifically calibrated' but i really like it after months of hand adjusting it and just want to see if it helps anyone else out. I see color very very well and I like it, but it also makes me fidgit until adjustments look near perfect to me, lots of people it won't matter because they are near color blind and were just born that way. This forum is here to offer help and opinions, this is one.

I just read your signature, congrats on having the ZT and all that other lovely stuff listed there. It's nice, good for you. I see your tv is ISF calibrated... honestly surprised you bothered, that panel was amazing in stores when we were selling them, but, better is better. I must have moved a few dozen personally, just beautiful. I'm not sure an OLED has actually beaten it yet as I suspect many of them are using 10 bit drivers, particularly the LG as i found that in their documentation.
It was humour rather than sarcasm intended. You are of course entitled to use whatever settings you like on your own TV, because it's your TV and your opinion is all that matters.

For general consumption however, sharpness should be set at 0 on these panels.

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It was humour rather than sarcasm intended. You are of course entitled to use whatever settings you like on your own TV, because it's your TV and your opinion is all that matters.

For general consumption however, sharpness should be set at 0 on these panels.
General consumption and calibrated both! It's been discussed at length in this site, sharpness for these sets should be 0, so you are correct.

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