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post #3031 of 16958 Old 07-03-2013, 03:00 PM
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Anyone tried one of these sets out with a Denon AVR-5805Mk2?

Am eying a ZT or a VT 65"-er, would obviously not be doing 3D directly through it, but am a bit concerned after reading somebody's issues with P65VT60 and his Denon AVR-2307CI ("Every time I connected the Panasonic to the Denon, the Denon would crash and become unresponsive. Switching back to the old TV immediately resolved the problems." (the old TV being an older Panasonic)).

Have no intention of replacing my Denon any time soon (unless it starts billowing smoke or something like that), so would like to know if anyone's successfully run this set through an older Denon AVR, in particular mine or some other one circa 2006 or so (I think uses HDMI 1.1, but the variation of it that supports 1080p/24 and multichannel PCM (I use 5 channels, but think it supports more than that).

Any real world experience?
The only drawback would be that you'll need a Blu-ray player with two HDMI outputs if you want to do 3D.
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The only drawback would be that you'll need a Blu-ray player with two HDMI outputs if you want to do 3D.

What a great excuse/reason the get the Oppo 103!

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ny xbox360 Gamers. Can you tell my son on my 65vt60 what mode or setting when playing on it? Cause i think there was a Game mode on vt50 series. do not know on vt60 i see game on/off idk Help please..smile.gif O and he plays Black ops ...

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What a great excuse/reason the get the Oppo 103!

Or a ps4.

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After weeks of reading about and checking out ST, VT, and F8500, finally pulled the trigger on 65vt60 for what I think is a very good price (i have mentioned the price in the deals thread). Getting the tv delivered on Friday. I am not planning on running the slides, just watching regular HD cable content. If I ensure for the first 100 hours avoid watching any one particular channel with a prominent logo for more than say a couple of hours at a time and avoid black bars as much as possible, am I good to go? Anything else to watch out for? After 100 hours of watching can I try out Dnice settings though it is supposed to be used after panel prep by running the slides? Has anyone tried those settings without running the slides? Any other recommended settings?

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Pulled the trigger on the 60VT60. Taking delivery next week! Having Gregg Loewen come out in the fall to do the calibration. Anyone have any thoughts on Gregg's work? He sure seems to have a mountain of credentials...
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Just be careful starting out - you can try CNETs settings or someones else's (just no torch mode) until you get more time on the panel. Common sense goes a long way - I was watching letterbox movies during breakin. Just not back-to-back and slides, full screen content or even the screen wipe in-between. Enjoy your new display, you should be very pleased. The picture gets better - up to a point - with time.

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Just got mine delivered today. Currently running slides full time. Ill watch a blu ray this weekend to finish the 100 hrs. Very excited for this huge upgrade.
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It seems like everyone is mentioning 100 hours as break in, but when I mentioned getting IR really bad after 100 hours, I was told it was cause I needed 300 hours before that. When did it switch from 100 to 300?
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300 hours is recommended if you're getting a calibration. If not, 100 would be ok, but the more the better.

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We are going out of town this weekend. That got me thinking - what if I start running the slides when we head out, that way when we are back it would have run for around 50 hours. Is that safe? If the power goes off by any chance and comes back what will happen to the slide run? Will the tv come on in some home screen and I run the risk of some images getting burned in?
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It seems like everyone is mentioning 100 hours as break in, but when I mentioned getting IR really bad after 100 hours, I was told it was cause I needed 300 hours before that. When did it switch from 100 to 300?
There is an urban legend that some number of hours will protect you from IR. Having habits that result in watching a good mixture of source material is your best protection.

The 100 hours that you've read about is part of prepping TV models that D-Nice has posted setting for here at AVS. The only model that has been posted is the ST60. If you owned that model, then following D-Nice's instructions would get you the best results. The 300 hour recommendation is to protect people from paying for a professional calibration and then having there set drift which would degrade the calibration results. After a set is 300 hours old, there is very little chance that there will be significant drift. For instance, our Kuro was calibrated at 900 hours, and needed a recalibration at 5200 hours.

Click here for some thought about mixing source material.

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Pulled the trigger on the 60VT60. Taking delivery next week! Having Gregg Loewen come out in the fall to do the calibration. Anyone have any thoughts on Gregg's work? He sure seems to have a mountain of credentials...
Use the link in the signature area of my post to read owner comments on his work. The flat panel lists are in post number two.

Gregg is a well known calibrator and instructor.
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We are going out of town this weekend. That got me thinking - what if I start running the slides when we head out, that way when we are back it would have run for around 50 hours. Is that safe? If the power goes off by any chance and comes back what will happen to the slide run? Will the tv come on in some home screen and I run the risk of some images getting burned in?
Maybe not burn in but you might get some image retention. It all depends on how long the fixed image is displayed.

Another bad possibility is that the power comes back on, and there is a massive surge in your homes wiring. The best protection for power surges after power failures is to disconnect your electronics from any power source before the power is restored. You need to be at home to do that. wink.gif
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What a great excuse/reason the get the Oppo 103!

Already have a 93, so no problem there. Was asking more about whether the set would even work with my older Denon receiver, as someone else had issues when using it with his older Denon avr. Seemingly the new Panasonics perhaps not supporting older HDMI as well as their older sets did.

(And maybe/not some issue with throwing older 2D only into a 3D hdmi world).
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It seems like everyone is mentioning 100 hours as break in, but when I mentioned getting IR really bad after 100 hours, I was told it was cause I needed 300 hours before that. When did it switch from 100 to 300?

I'm only running slides to help prep for the picture settings. I'll try the few posted here and CNET's settings after 100 hrs. I'm hesitant to watch any broadcast TV with a lot of logos or play video games until I"m closer to 300 hrs.
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Wall mount screw hole dimensions? Does anyone have this info? I'm thinking that I'll replace my damaged Pio Elite that is currently wall mounted with the TC-P55VT60 but, I can't find the mounting hole dimensions of either anywhere.
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Pulled the trigger on the 60VT60. Taking delivery next week! Having Gregg Loewen come out in the fall to do the calibration. Anyone have any thoughts on Gregg's work? He sure seems to have a mountain of credentials...
He is excellent, many excellent calibrators on AVS !
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Wall mount screw hole dimensions? Does anyone have this info? I'm thinking that I'll replace my damaged Pio Elite that is currently wall mounted with the TC-P55VT60 but, I can't find the mounting hole dimensions of either anywhere.

Manual says : screw M8, minimal lenght 17mm and maximal lenght 23mm same for all VT models.
Width between the holes 500mm ,height between the holes 300mm for P55VT60 model.
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Anyone with P65VT60 which have a slight vertical band on right side of the panel ? Slightly visible with grey fullscreen slides ..
Just unboxed and run burn-in slides for 100hours.

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Anyone with P65VT60 which have a slight vertical band on right side of the panel ? Slightly visible with grey fullscreen slides ..
Just unboxed and run burn-in slides for 100hours.


Yes Both of mine have had it , I've heard from quite a few others have it as well .. I believe most do .. Not visible during actual content to me thou only slides
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It was present on the 50 series also

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It looks like the e-help manual is online only? Loving the TV. Did the Cnet settings in Cinema, but I have to say I prefer THX cinema as blacks look deeper and colors more saturated. I read a review online where they pumped up the Contrast to 85 to reach the THX goal of 35 Ft. lamperts. I set mine to 80 today as it works a bit better in daylight than when set at 60. The 3-D is fantastic. From all I have read 96 kHz is the sweet spot for 2-D and 3-D and setting the motion smoother to weak is the only way to resolve 1200 lines of resolution during motion.
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Pulled the trigger on the 60VT60. Taking delivery next week! Having Gregg Loewen come out in the fall to do the calibration. Anyone have any thoughts on Gregg's work? He sure seems to have a mountain of credentials...

Gregg taught me how too calibrate my television many years ago using the now defunct Colorfacts Professional 7.1 at one of his training classes in NJ.

Great guy, and one of the top 5 calibrators in the U.S. Its mind blowing when one thinks about all he's done in and for the industry.

Everybody in the Industry knows who Gregg is.

Great choice as far as calibrator.
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Anyone with P65VT60 which have a slight vertical band on right side of the panel ? Slightly visible with grey fullscreen slides ..
Just unboxed and run burn-in slides for 100hours.


Normal. Mine has it as did my first unit.
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Can anyone tell me Should i upgrade my oppo-93 stock hdmi cable ..will it make a PQ difference..Magnolia says it will..But want your thoughts before i do it.. ty

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Can anyone tell me Should i upgrade my oppo-93 stock hdmi cable ..will it make a PQ difference..Magnolia says it will..But want your thoughts before i do it.. ty

An HDMI cable is an HDMI cable it either passes the digital signal or it doesn't unless you have a long run it is doubtful any cable would make a difference. Whatever you do don't by any of those from BB try monoprice. If you have a very long run you might want to look into hdmi with Redmere chip.

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Can anyone tell me Should i upgrade my oppo-93 stock hdmi cable ..will it make a PQ difference..Magnolia says it will..But want your thoughts before i do it.. ty

Magnolia is a sales organization and buying their expensive cables will not improve the picture.

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Can anyone tell me Should i upgrade my oppo-93 stock hdmi cable ..will it make a PQ difference..Magnolia says it will..But want your thoughts before i do it.. ty

Read this ..... Why all HDMI Cables are the same http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20056502-1/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same/

They make crazy margins on cables and a tiny amount on tvs ... Go to Monoprice if you want new cables , the ultra thin with red mere are amazing
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