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Newbie question--where is the screen wipe function on a VT60?

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So - in light of the fact that D-Nice has not published VT60 specific settings, what settings are people using? I'm aware of CNET's, and I'm about to try them right now, but are there any others out there people might recommend?
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So - in light of the fact that D-Nice has not published VT60 specific settings, what settings are people using? I'm aware of CNET's, and I'm about to try them right now, but are there any others out there people might recommend?
Cnet seems to be census settings all is useing....smile.gif

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Hey guys, I get my 65VT60 tomorrow and I might run the slides for a bit. I was wondering what kind of brightness or contrast do you run them in? Is brighter better? Exact settings would be extremely helpful. Also, can and do you literally run them for twenty four hours plus straight through? New to this whole plasma game. I still have my 2003/2004 34 inch sony wega that i still love. I have been borrowing my brothers 5 yr old samsung plasma to help stage my house for selling. Thanks
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Hey guys, I get my 65VT60 tomorrow and I might run the slides for a bit. I was wondering what kind of brightness or contrast do you run them in? Is brighter better? Exact settings would be extremely helpful. Also, can and do you literally run them for twenty four hours plus straight through? New to this whole plasma game. I still have my 2003/2004 34 inch sony wega that i still love. I have been borrowing my brothers 5 yr old samsung plasma to help stage my house for selling. Thanks
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Hey guys I am picking up a 55 or 60" VT...not sure which size yet.

It's known that all technology is susceptible to stuck or dead pixels and I've read a few posts (keyword being "few") that claimed to have stuck or dead pixels or just pixel issues in general. My guess would be it's just a pick of bad luck but are the VT60's more prone to this issue or is just a tech thing like its always been for HDTVs?

And to comment on anyone having a green "push" issue. It seems to be evident across all the series S/ST/VT not sure about the ZT, and it seems to be in certain modes. I have the 50S64 and defientely notice that faces "sometimes" have a more flush or pale look to them. Kinda of like the green tinge you get before you throw up. IMO it is not a concern or a issue with the TV. It is noticeable but not enough to call a deal breaker or to take away the ability of these sets. I am extremely Impressed with the PQ and blacks of my s64 which makes me forget the green is even there. So I'm sure to be more than pleased with the VT60. Getting excited.
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I have read all the significant Panasonic threads here from the beginning and the VT is no more prone to pixel problems than any other model and its rare for all of them.

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Hey guys I am picking up a 55 or 60" VT...not sure which size yet.

It's known that all technology is susceptible to stuck or dead pixels and I've read a few posts (keyword being "few") that claimed to have stuck or dead pixels or just pixel issues in general. My guess would be it's just a pick of bad luck but are the VT60's more prone to this issue or is just a tech thing like its always been for HDTVs?

And to comment on anyone having a green "push" issue. It seems to be evident across all the series S/ST/VT not sure about the ZT, and it seems to be in certain modes. I have the 50S64 and defientely notice that faces "sometimes" have a more flush or pale look to them. Kinda of like the green tinge you get before you throw up. IMO it is not a concern or a issue with the TV. It is noticeable but not enough to call a deal breaker or to take away the ability of these sets. I am extremely Impressed with the PQ and blacks of my s64 which makes me forget the green is even there. So I'm sure to be more than pleased with the VT60. Getting excited.
Yes the green push has been stated a few times for the ZT also, mainly in the THX modes.

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Is there anything I can do about this "Banding" I have noticed at end of a TV program / film, when white credits/text scrolls up the screen I get horizontal lines/bands running right across to the right hand side? I think it's call line bleed?
Do I have a fault with my TV here or is this behavior normal for this particular model? I have never noticed this on my older TXP50PZ800 plasma model?
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Hi guys! My VT60 should be arriving on Wednesday!

Quick question

I bought the VT60 for my parents and their current setup is hooking up a HDMI cable from the laptop to the 67in Samsung. The HDMI cable runs from the back of the TV and we have a big cable the runs across the floor in the living room, unfortunately. That is one of the reason why we chose to buy a smart TV, to eliminate that and have a cleaner setup.
All they do is stream international (Asian News) and stream Asian movies and Youtube. Is the TV internet/web browser capable of doing that? Such as maximizing the screen to full to fill up the tv, kind of like how you can maximize youtube videos to full screen and other streaming sites?

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Wow! I cannot express how disappointed I am about this tv... I exchange it for the samsung f7100 and regret it greatly!!!
Waaay to dim... Yes, I was warned about this... But even in a very dim room it does not "pop" at all...

This is a television if you mostly or exclusively watch movies.... If you're going to watch shows or sports... It does not perform nearly as well as an lcd...

The image is soooo soft is ridiculous.... My old hp lcd looms better than this set... Obviously not in color and blacks reproduction ... But overall better picture quality...

I just paid 2,400 for this television and feel sick to my stomach... I wish I would've kept the f7100 even if the auto dimming was annoying... It does not compare at all...

The samsung is extremely sharp and impressive.... This panasonic seems to be unable to produces whites...

Gaming? Do you lay videogames? It helps that ita soooo dim that it wont hurt your eyes as much... But you lose too much detail...
On the led you can see very good detail on videogames... This television basically smooths everything out...

I must be stupid or blind because I spent hours reading rave reviews...
I will never buy a plasma again... I DO NOT get it...

Yes it looks more like film... But for that you sacrifice detail on everything else...

And omg... Even in the darkest of rooms you just want the image to be brighter!!! It doesn't pop at all...

Whenever I play a blu ray I get a really good image here and there... Not like before when everything looked amazing! Jaw dropping!

This is not the tv for me ... But unfortunately I waited until the last day to exchange at Magnolia... And I don't think I can return it again....

I will regret this for years to come... I totally screwed myself and my family out of an amazing tv....
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Wow! I cannot express how disappointed I am about this tv... I exchange it for the samsung f7100 and regret it greatly!!!
Waaay to dim... Yes, I was warned about this... But even in a very dim room it does not "pop" at all...

This is a television if you mostly or exclusively watch movies.... If you're going to watch shows or sports... It does not perform nearly as well as an lcd...

The image is soooo soft is ridiculous.... My old hp lcd looms better than this set... Obviously not in color and blacks reproduction ... But overall better picture quality...

I just paid 2,400 for this television and feel sick to my stomach... I wish I would've kept the f7100 even if the auto dimming was annoying... It does not compare at all...

The samsung is extremely sharp and impressive.... This panasonic seems to be unable to produces whites...

Gaming? Do you lay videogames? It helps that ita soooo dim that it wont hurt your eyes as much... But you lose too much detail...
On the led you can see very good detail on videogames... This television basically smooths everything out...

I must be stupid or blind because I spent hours reading rave reviews...
I will never buy a plasma again... I DO NOT get it...

Yes it looks more like film... But for that you sacrifice detail on everything else...

And omg... Even in the darkest of rooms you just want the image to be brighter!!! It doesn't pop at all...

Whenever I play a blu ray I get a really good image here and there... Not like before when everything looked amazing! Jaw dropping!

This is not the tv for me ... But unfortunately I waited until the last day to exchange at Magnolia... And I don't think I can return it again....

I will regret this for years to come... I totally screwed myself and my family out of an amazing tv....

Wow, where to begin!

Well, if you're using the out of box presets, its going to be dim.

If you are use to the over saturated, eye scorching bright, cartoon-like picture that an LCD offers, then you will probably not appreciate the real, true to life, accurate color and picture that a top plasma has to offer.

You're going to regret it for years? Lol if you're that unhappy, just return it for that "jaw dropping" LCD....
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Wow! I cannot express how disappointed I am about this tv... I exchange it for the samsung f7100 and regret it greatly!!!
Waaay to dim... Yes, I was warned about this... But even in a very dim room it does not "pop" at all...

This is a television if you mostly or exclusively watch movies.... If you're going to watch shows or sports... It does not perform nearly as well as an lcd...

The image is soooo soft is ridiculous.... My old hp lcd looms better than this set... Obviously not in color and blacks reproduction ... But overall better picture quality...

I just paid 2,400 for this television and feel sick to my stomach... I wish I would've kept the f7100 even if the auto dimming was annoying... It does not compare at all...

The samsung is extremely sharp and impressive.... This panasonic seems to be unable to produces whites...

Gaming? Do you lay videogames? It helps that ita soooo dim that it wont hurt your eyes as much... But you lose too much detail...
On the led you can see very good detail on videogames... This television basically smooths everything out...

I must be stupid or blind because I spent hours reading rave reviews...
I will never buy a plasma again... I DO NOT get it...

Yes it looks more like film... But for that you sacrifice detail on everything else...

And omg... Even in the darkest of rooms you just want the image to be brighter!!! It doesn't pop at all...

Whenever I play a blu ray I get a really good image here and there... Not like before when everything looked amazing! Jaw dropping!

This is not the tv for me ... But unfortunately I waited until the last day to exchange at Magnolia... And I don't think I can return it again....

I will regret this for years to come... I totally screwed myself and my family out of an amazing tv....
Bummer. Good luck with the crap TV.
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That's the thing... I don't think I can...

Does anybody have any ideas on magnolias return policy? I know they give you 15 days to return or exchange... Like I said... I waited until the 15th to return and they ordered the panasonic and picked it up two days later...

I think now that sell is final... Right?

Man... I really, really hope I can return it again...

Has anybody done anything like that at magnolia?
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Wow! I cannot express how disappointed I am about this tv... I exchange it for the samsung f7100 and regret it greatly!!!
Waaay to dim... Yes, I was warned about this... But even in a very dim room it does not "pop" at all...

This is a television if you mostly or exclusively watch movies.... If you're going to watch shows or sports... It does not perform nearly as well as an lcd...

The image is soooo soft is ridiculous.... My old hp lcd looms better than this set... Obviously not in color and blacks reproduction ... But overall better picture quality...

I just paid 2,400 for this television and feel sick to my stomach... I wish I would've kept the f7100 even if the auto dimming was annoying... It does not compare at all...

The samsung is extremely sharp and impressive.... This panasonic seems to be unable to produces whites...

Gaming? Do you lay videogames? It helps that ita soooo dim that it wont hurt your eyes as much... But you lose too much detail...
On the led you can see very good detail on videogames... This television basically smooths everything out...

I must be stupid or blind because I spent hours reading rave reviews...
I will never buy a plasma again... I DO NOT get it...

Yes it looks more like film... But for that you sacrifice detail on everything else...

And omg... Even in the darkest of rooms you just want the image to be brighter!!! It doesn't pop at all...

Whenever I play a blu ray I get a really good image here and there... Not like before when everything looked amazing! Jaw dropping!

This is not the tv for me ... But unfortunately I waited until the last day to exchange at Magnolia... And I don't think I can return it again....

I will regret this for years to come... I totally screwed myself and my family out of an amazing tv....
LOL It took you until after the return date to figure out this tv is the worst tv on the planet?! Oh well...

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That's the thing... I don't think I can...
I was being facetious.
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It took me two weeks to return the samsun:.: basically when i started to notice dark scenes would get darker... No matter what settings I turned off..

And whats up with the greenish aura it forms around shadows? Yeah... That's very realistic... Pfff

Damn... Sorry, I'm just effing sad
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LOL

If you call magnolia I'm sure they'll be reasonable; I'd bet it'd be a whole lot less effort than joining the forum to go on your "campaign".
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LOL It took you until after the return date to figure out this tv is the worst tv on the planet?! Oh well...
Very odd. I play PC and Xbox games on this TV and the games look nothing short of amazing. On the Xbox at the beginning of a game it usually asks you to increase the brightness until you can very faintly see a certain image. I increase the brightness a little and I'm good to go. Playing games on a 65" TV is awesome! TV shows might not look as good due to how they were recorded, but 1080p movies look amazing as well.

I'll be quite honest though - the TV has a LOT of different screen settings. It took me a while to optimize it... Hoping to get further improvements when I get it calibrated on october 5.
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A question, did any of you VT60 owners get the VT over the ZT just because of the brighter image output on the 65 in model?

And a similar question, have any of you regretted not getting the ZT for the supposedly better mid to bright room performance in the apparent black levels performance over the VT? The CNET review especially seems to highlight this difference.

Obliviously on the fence. Thanks
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For myself, the better filter on the ZT60 was not worth an extra $500-1000.

I do limited daytime viewing and can control the light to a decent degree when necessary with my VT60 as I have shades/blinds in the room.

I also prefer the slightly greater light output of the VT60 as it helps the most with 3D. Nighttime is when I do "serious" viewing.
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A question, did any of you VT60 owners get the VT over the ZT just because of the brighter image output on the 65 in model?

And a similar question, have any of you regretted not getting the ZT for the supposedly better mid to bright room performance in the apparent black levels performance over the VT? The CNET review especially seems to highlight this difference.

Obliviously on the fence. Thanks

I agree with David.

The black levels are identical, so no difference there.

The only reason I would suggest a ZT over a VT is if you have a very bright viewing room, and when you can't control the ambient light.

In all other cases, get the VT and use the saved money for a pro cal.

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Not all are. I'm not. I always suggest using a calibration disc rather than using internet posted settings. Best option, get a pro cal.
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As stunning as these sets are image retention is definitely an issue! Although I never noticed it until I put the Disney WOW disc in with advanced contrast calibration the OPPO logo from my BDP-103. It is apparent on a white screen such as in the purity section of the Disney WOW disc and in very bright scenes such as Harry Potter 7 part 2 Chapter 22 in the dream sequence talking to Gandolf. At the top of the screen I can see the Oppo logo. Initially when I saw it I ran the pixel flipper and screen wipe for 7 days straight. While better it is still there. Now looking at a completely white screen it isn't noticeable anymore. But with certain mixtures some colors in to a bright scene and it is apparent especially against the backdrop of the sky or snow covered mountains.

Make no mistake probably 98% of content it isn't noticeable at all. It is still annoying to see the logo pop up during a certain combination of colors typically being against a bright sky. In Chap. 22 of HP7 part 2 putting the setting to cool2 vanishes the logo, against a total white background like on any calibration disc Warm 2 makes the logo vanish so it varies and believe me if I could put the TV in a setting that make the IR vanish I would. It is getting better though, but I was hoping the problem would go away after 4 days.

Lastly the player automatically goes into screen saver mode after 3 minutes. It is the default setting on the player even after a FW upgrade and I never would have turned the screen saver off. My past sets were Pioneer Elite's going back to the days of rear projectors which were also prone to burn in, but nothing even close to the image retention that is associated with plasma. I watch 95% blurays so the 100% APL Oppo logo has taken a bit of a toll on the phosphers in so much as some aging a bit faster. I will admit before I noticed it all my viewing was in THX cinema mode so the pixel orbiter was off. I have now recalibrated everything in Custom with the pixel orbiter on while getting rid of the green tint apparent in the color decoder.

It is a fantastic set and Iove the picture it produces! I do wish after 10 years Panasonic had the image retention issue resolved by now.

Concerning a OLED set at Harrod's in Britain burn in has popped up in a set the store, so it looks like whatever sets deliver the best PQ this will be an ongoing issue.
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