Hi guys, well I have had my 65vt60 for six weeks now. My original impressions were not good. I thought the tv looked both dim and soft when I first got it. I literally thought there was some protective film over the screen. I still have two weeks to take the tv back. I must say that lately the tv has been looking much better to me. Not sure if its because its aging or my eyes are adapting to it. It will literally look amazing during one commercial and lousy the next. It looks almost 3D when its in 2D with blue ray. I determined it had to be source related. Lately I have been having a serious itch to go and take a good hard look at the Samsung f8500 (again) since I know it's brighter and lots of people say its sharper and more realistic than the vt60. Well, yesterday morning I had to go to magnolia bb to get it out of my system once and for all. I was prepared to spend the extra money on the samsung if need be. I was at that damn store for two hours messing with the vt60 and the samsung f8500 which were side by side. I set up the vt60 the same way I have it at home. I then messed around with many settings at different times on the samsung. For the life of me I could not get that samsung to look as good as the vt60. I even plugged in settings I've read online (cnet etc.). The colors on the vt60 had so much more saturation than the Sammy and the vt60 had more "pop" to it. The Sammy was brighter, but from what I saw it didn't seem a lot brighter (it did in dynamic mode, but the panny also gets brighter in vivid mode, both of which i don't like). I really don't think the samsung's brightness helped it at all and it might have made me see more dither on it compared to the vt60. Obviously the blacks were better on the panasonic. The vt60 was more realistic and it just seemed to suck you into the screen. At the end of the audition I was super excited because I paid $1100 less for my vt60 than I would have if I went with the samsung f8500. The whole experience made me see why many major pro reviewers consider the vt60 (and zt60) the best tv ever made (in controlled lighting). Im just so happy with my purchase now and my wife couldnt be happier now that she doesn't have to hear me complaining about the tv and how i should have gone with the samsung. Please remember these are only my opinions and the two sets were not pro calibrated. Btw, the only complaint I have now is the fans are a bit loud (my wife still has to hear about this complaint ;-)) when i have the volume down while my wife and baby girl are in bed. I even hear them with the volume is at 17. I just might have to get the fan fix done. Now I'm going back to watching my 65 inch VT60. Thanks guys.