Originally Posted by sp1906207
So I think I made a mistake (will explain in a moment) and bought a 65" Samsung F8500, although my original plan was VT60.
Questions for the VT60 owners (or maybe even those who had a chance to compare both sets), before I return F8500 and go for VT60:
1) Is there anything similar with vertical viewing angles on VT60? I know VT60 also has that "Louver filter" to fight lights reflections, but does it lead to the same kind of severe limitation on vertical viewing angles (i.e. unwatchable from 4 feet), or much less pronounced?
2) Is brightness on VT60 really enough to watch it in a well-lit room (i.e. one with large windows on a bright day, but with no direct sun)? I am not talking about LED type of bright, I understand that PDP is inherently less bright, but is it comfortably enough?
3) I see all the discussions about IR concerns on VT60, and I also see that most people just refer to their past experiences with Plasma sets (I had Pio 5070 myself until recently, and did have this problem, but it wasn't severe enough to bother me). All plasmas are not created equal, so VT60 may (or may not!) actually be more susceptible to IR than the sets you owned before, and previous experiences are of limited use.
So I just wanted to ask if owners of VT60 who already went beyond the break-in period noticed any degree of IR that would concern them?
I'm pretty sure my F8500 is going back to BestBuy (so happy they have at least 15 days of no-hassle returns), just want to make sure VT60 will not have the same vertical viewing problem, and the other 2 points will not be a deal-breaker.
I think you'll get a good idea of the differences of "brightness" with ChadBs review..... The only one who would be able to tell you if it gets bright enough for you is you though
....Everyone has a different view of whats broght enough for them, so if I sad yes its bright enough and then you brought it home and said this is not bright at all, my information would be bad........
I havent noticed when viewing the VT60 in Magnolia the vertial viewing angle issues you are seeing, but TBH I havent seen them on the 8500 they have either unless I am right below or above the screen at 3 feet or less.......The distance you are (6-7 feet) from the TV is a "little" close, but it will give you some immersive watching
.....The filter on the F8500 however seems mroe agressive thus it may handle reflections from "bright rooms" better.....The trade off it seems is the vertical viewing anomolies you are seeing.....
Have you gone to see the VT60 in person? If not I suggest doing this to see if it gets bright enough for you, set it to a setting as close to possible as what you would have at home, and compare an F8500 the same way, while not perfect it would give you a good idea.....
Originally Posted by Chad B
Full review will be up tonight or tomorrow, but wanted to pass along some findings so far.
Black level measured .00146 at 60Hz, and at 96 Hz it was too low for my meter to measure (presumably below .001 fL).
ABL behavior is more "conventional" (and limiting) than that of the Samsung F8500, at least in panel brightness mid.
Excellent 3D performance...
Cant wait to read the review Chad, thanks for the tidbit....