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eric3316's Avatar eric3316 06:27 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

Yeah, I keep forgetting that not all understand calibration. Sorry. redface.gif

The charts are simple to grasp.

In very non-technical terms: The x axis (horizontal) defines the grayscale (white balance) from black (0%) to white (100%). The y axis shows the output of red, green, and blue at the specific grays. That means, for example, that if blue is higher than red and green, the screen will have an overall bluish tint to it.

This is seen best when the Color control is temporally reduced to zero. A black and white movie should look.... well, black and white. When this black and white is achieved, all three colors will fall on top of one another. The curve at the bottom of the graph is an indication of the amount of variation from perfect -- the error (delta E.) Generally a delta E of less than 3 is acceptable for viewing video. A delta E of less than 1 is desirable for viewing static pictures.

I hope this simplistic explanation helps.

Larry
Okay, thanks for that. Trying to grasp it. Is there somewhere I can see where a prefect chart would look like. Would it just be all the colors on top of each other at 100% and the delta 1 or under?

Mean Gene's Avatar Mean Gene 06:28 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by agorena123 View Post

FIY, found something called LightDims on another forum thread to temper the red led "on" light which can be distracting when we go total dark -especially when in 3d. They have a try it for a penny offer with $1.98 shipping. I love cheap mods!

I was recommended these by members on here, they are totally worth it. Got rid of the red power light today on mine with the black out editions.
Mean Gene's Avatar Mean Gene 06:36 PM 01-22-2014
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A little off topic but DLF's picture of his set up made me do it. biggrin.gif

I am currently looking around for a tv console for the vt60 and my equipment ( center channel, marantz avr, PS3 slim and accessories, dish dvr, cd player ) . I am finding alot of media consoles that really aren't designed for center channels and hot running gear (little or no ventilation), or they are designed right but are rather pricy.

The best option I've seen so far are the BDI consoles. The ones my wife and I like run around $1700. I'll spend that if I have to but was curious to see if anyone had found a tv console they really liked that fits a center channel and is priced less than the BDI consoles.

I bought the following Bell'o stand two years ago when I got my 55gt30 and love it. My 65vt60 sides hang off about 2" on each side because it is made for 60" max TV's. The price has been fluctuating lately on amazon so keep an eye on it. Lots of ventilation, easy to get to components and very well made.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KJ1U9E/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.bello.com/bello-images/av-furniture/av-stands/cw356/CW356_SpecSheet_091013.pdf


another but less ventilation for 65"

http://www.amazon.com/Bello-WAVS99163-Espresso-Finish-Cabinet/dp/B00CIMM7XG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390440823&sr=8-1&keywords=WAVS99163
agorena123's Avatar agorena123 06:57 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by Codeman00 View Post

I would never ever spend $1700 on a stand, so its tough to answer. I have a $300 stand that houses my Infinity center channel just fine....you have to slide it in from the side.

UPDATED with the exact stand...http://www.vanns.com/shop/Tech-Craft-MC6032B-Black-60-wide-flat-panel-TV-stand/product-800534126


I'm not sure if you want to go that cheap...but my 65VT60 fits perfect, holds tons of equipment, and looks great IMHO! I can send you a picture if needed.

The wife has banned the open shelves concept. She can't stand seeing the wires. Appreciate the suggestion.
fahrenheit's Avatar fahrenheit 06:58 PM 01-22-2014
I've installed my 65VT60 on to a 65ST50 base.



I borrowed my friend's ST base and was initially deterred by the fact that the brackets taper slightly differently towards the bottom (illustrated in this pic).


But because I was forced to remove the TV from the VT60's base to make some adjustments, I tried it and found it actually works rather well. It is even more stable than the VT60 base.

This has not only lowered the screen so that I don't have to look up at it, but has also solved all my cable management and bias light issues which come with the stock V bracket.

The base is rated to hold the 65VT50, which is heavier than the VT60, so load isn't an issue. Anyone wondering about using the ST60 base should note that it is a kg lighter and therefore less suited.
I haven't done any comparisons with the 55" and 60" models sorry.
LarryInRI's Avatar LarryInRI 06:59 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Okay, thanks for that. Trying to grasp it. Is there somewhere I can see where a prefect chart would look like. Would it just be all the colors on top of each other at 100% and the delta 1 or under?

Yes. Here is the grayscale on my calibrated 65VT60:



Larry
mbroadus's Avatar mbroadus 07:03 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by agorena123 View Post

The wife has banned the open shelves concept. She can't stand seeing the wires. Appreciate the suggestion.

I agree with her...nothing makes a beautiful setup look worse than wires showing.
FilmReverie's Avatar FilmReverie 07:04 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by fahrenheit View Post

I've installed my 65VT60 on to a 65ST50 base.



I borrowed my friend's ST base and was initially deterred by the fact that the brackets taper slightly differently towards the bottom (illustrated in this pic).


But because I was forced to remove the TV from the VT60's base to make some adjustments, I tried it and found it actually works rather well. It is even more stable than the VT60 base.

This has not only lowered the screen so that I don't have to look up at it, but has also solved all my cable management and bias light issues which come with the stock V bracket.

The base is rated to hold the 65VT50, which is heavier than the VT60, so load isn't an issue. Anyone wondering about using the ST60 base should note that it is a kg lighter and therefore less suited.
I haven't done any comparisons with the 55" and 60" models sorry.

What tv stand is that?
fahrenheit's Avatar fahrenheit 07:06 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by FilmReverie View Post

What tv stand is that?

Custom built.
agorena123's Avatar agorena123 07:09 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by Mean Gene View Post

I bought the following Bell'o stand two years ago when I got my 55gt30 and love it. My 65vt60 sides hang off about 2" on each side because it is made for 60" max TV's. The price has been fluctuating lately on amazon so keep an eye on it. Lots of ventilation, easy to get to components and very well made.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KJ1U9E/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_7?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.bello.com/bello-images/av-furniture/av-stands/cw356/CW356_SpecSheet_091013.pdf


another but less ventilation for 65"

http://www.amazon.com/Bello-WAVS99163-Espresso-Finish-Cabinet/dp/B00CIMM7XG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390440823&sr=8-1&keywords=WAVS99163

I've looked at that bello before. How well do the side panels hide wires.
FilmReverie's Avatar FilmReverie 07:09 PM 01-22-2014
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Custom built.

Bugger. I love the design an may copy it to some degree and make my own (as I can't find any to buy that I like).
cinobyte's Avatar cinobyte 07:28 PM 01-22-2014
I got this stand about 5 years ago from bb for maybe 400.00 now they want 2k that's crazy. maybe check out craigs list






lionorion's Avatar lionorion 07:36 PM 01-22-2014
lionorion's Avatar lionorion 07:40 PM 01-22-2014
Sorry, I meant to add some text to my last post.

I love this stand! And our VT60 of course.

Hope this helps.

Go 'Hawks!
eric3316's Avatar eric3316 07:48 PM 01-22-2014
Okay, I'm saying it. TV stands has got to be the most boring topic to take place in this thread. Lol
mbroadus's Avatar mbroadus 08:21 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Okay, I'm saying it. TV stands has got to be the most boring topic to take place in this thread. Lol

Yes, we've strayed off topic and there's a furniture subforum. What should we talk about next?
lionorion's Avatar lionorion 08:26 PM 01-22-2014
Well, I for one feel so lucky to have purchased a VT60 before they ran out.

It's a gorgeous PDP!
eric3316's Avatar eric3316 08:50 PM 01-22-2014
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Yes, we've strayed off topic and there's a furniture subforum. What should we talk about next?
Surge protectors? I need to get myself one.
mbroadus's Avatar mbroadus 09:08 PM 01-22-2014
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Surge protectors? I need to get myself one.

Touchy subject...some prefer power conditioners and some think they're snake oil but it's all personal preference. And yes, you do need something.
pdawg17's Avatar pdawg17 09:08 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by Mean Gene View Post

I was recommended these by members on here, they are totally worth it. Got rid of the red power light today on mine with the black out editions.

Black out dims blend ok with the clear bezel?
SeLfMaDe111985's Avatar SeLfMaDe111985 09:18 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by kluken View Post

My VT60 October build has the foam fix, but is still audible at silent scenes, not as bad as with no foam fix. My VT50 is dead quiet so it has to be something did that caused the airflow to be more turbulent to make more noise as the fans as the same. I posted my additional fix in the thread about the noise that makes them inaudible.
Possibly post a pic of the foam? I'd like to see where it's placed
sillysally's Avatar sillysally 09:34 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by Scott Oakley View Post

Hi, if you don't mind me asking again, how and why does this translate into the settings you've posted on here for the VT60 being zero?

I am sorry, I don't understand your question.

ss
SeLfMaDe111985's Avatar SeLfMaDe111985 09:50 PM 01-22-2014
So I have about 250$ to BB for a TV stand. I'm not looking for anything extravagant but nice. Tops on prolly like 350$. Saw a few people discussing and though those are about 500$ more I was wondering if you had any suggestions for ones BB offers. Need good ventilation for Xbox 360 and ps3 as well as other components to come (X1, PS4)
emcdade's Avatar emcdade 10:08 PM 01-22-2014
This stand from World Market is pretty nice to be honest, and it's 62" wide so even a 65" plasma looks at home over it. For a solid wood top at $299 it's a great deal.



http://www.worldmarket.com/product/62-hako-media-stand.do?&from=fn
melmac's Avatar melmac 10:19 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by mbroadus View Post

Yes, we've strayed off topic and there's a furniture subforum. What should we talk about next?

Perhaps someone could answer my question from before all the calibration hoohaha, is it possible to wireless mirror a surface pro on this TV?

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I'm thinking of getting a 55VT60 and would like to be able to send from my Surface Pro 2 to the TV wirelessly, has any one tried to use the Android Pin as the Windows 8.1 WPS pin?

JPowers's Avatar JPowers 10:33 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Are we talking 60" or 65"?

Neither...64" smile.gif I talked to a guy who scored a PN64F8500 for $1900 through Amazon after the delivery guys damaged his 65" VT60, then called back and got the free soundbar and subwoofer when that promotion came out.
FilmReverie's Avatar FilmReverie 11:31 PM 01-22-2014
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Okay, I'm saying it. TV stands has got to be the most boring topic to take place in this thread. Lol

As long as it directly relates to stands for this tv I think it is fine. I for one have found it useful.


Having come from a dlp I have found I actually think motion looks best with creative frame interpolation set to min as appassed to off. This is the first time I have seen an implementation that I felt worked well and was of benifit. Any thoughts on this as I am shocked that I intend to leave it set to min as opposed to off. I think I may have been spoiled by dlp motion as I never had this 'issue' before.
Cleveland Plasma's Avatar Cleveland Plasma 12:17 AM 01-23-2014
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Originally Posted by JPowers View Post

Neither...64" smile.gif I talked to a guy who scored a PN64F8500 for $1900 through Amazon after the delivery guys damaged his 65" VT60, then called back and got the free soundbar and subwoofer when that promotion came out.
Well there is a smokin deal..........
fight4yu's Avatar fight4yu 02:27 AM 01-23-2014
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Originally Posted by pdawg17 View Post

Black out dims blend ok with the clear bezel?

It is a black out sticker.. It does not blend in, in my case... but I rather have a black spot than the bright red LED. Seriously, Panasonic could have thought about this better. Should have the RED when it is OFF, and nothing when it is ON...
fight4yu's Avatar fight4yu 02:33 AM 01-23-2014
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Okay, thanks for that. Trying to grasp it. Is there somewhere I can see where a prefect chart would look like. Would it just be all the colors on top of each other at 100% and the delta 1 or under?

just adding on a bit more.. Delta < 2-3 is considered as non-distinguishable by human eye.
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