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You missed my edit - I had two digits transposed.

No re: colorchecker. The input and mode I am using only includes 2p WB so I never looked at CC or Advanced CM.

I was just emailing you to double check that, that much change didn't make sense..

your right, I didn't see the edit...

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Anyone know of a good HDMI splitter? The ones I have looked at on Best Buy, Monoprice, Amazon, don't seem to have unanimous great reviews. The reason I want one is because I want to try the 3D on my 65VT60, and my receiver doesn't pass the 3D signal. So I want to come out of the PS3 with HDMI, split it in two, with one going to the AVR and one going to the tv.

I'm in the same boat as you, but after looking at reviews of splitters, I've pretty much just decided to upgrade my receiver.
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I had the same problem, so I bought an optical cable for the sound to the receiver and an HDMI 1.4 cable for connecting the PS3 directly to the tv. Much cheaper than buying a new receiver.
And after having tested 3D I don't think I will be using the feature that much...
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Anyone had '3D signal detected' on a non-3D bluray? I've just popped I-Robot in and the message came up. Definitely the 2D version. Weird!

On another note, can any Oppo users suggest what color settings they are using with their VT60? Not sure if should be 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 and if Deep color should be off or 36bit.

Thanks!
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Thanks guys. Appreciate the feedback.


I tried the 65 inch at 5 and half feet away and was pretty pixelated for me but not as bad with certain material. Though even the 55 has a similiar pixelation but i remember it being worse with the 65.

Maybe I would have adjusted though. I didnt keep them long enough since I was trying to decide and best buy cut me off from returning tvs.

Four was the limit.


I can relate to being OCD about tvs. The image retention was the main thing I would obsess over with plasma. But I would deal with it gladly before I would downgrade my picture to soemthing else. The yellow blotches that appeared were too much for me though

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If you guys were given the choice to repurchase. Would you have grabbed a VT50 with no fan noise, but brighter blacks, and slightly inferior color decoding or would you still stick with your VT60?

My Oct. 13 build is awesome but the fan noise is defintely that low pulsing sound and the fix is applied which I saw behind the fan. I'm wondering for those who had the fix applied after delivery or prior to the builds that implemented at the factory if what you hear is still a low pulse or is it dead silent? Mine is very low but can still be heard. Obviously not a huge issue because my TV Isn't going to be on mute but just curious. The back where the fans are does get a little hot and so does above the fans. Everything else stays cool as a cucumber. It is beyond me why they would put bigger fans instead of like 5 smaller a ones throughout the unit.

Seriously? You just can't stop can you? My VT60 kicks ass and then some, haven't missed watching my 5020 since DNice visited. While your obsessing again why don't you include the 8500 too rolleyes.gif

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IR seems to start when you have more hours on the panel for whatever reason. Closer to 200 maybe you will then start noticing some if you check on slides.

For some - I am over 1000 hours and not an issue on my panel.

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60inch VT I see talk of stands in this thread is frowned upon.

If it deals with a VT60 post it - we are here to help. Like a family - since we sort of are - you will have to take some good natured abuse from time to time though. No :mad:just this biggrin.gif on our thread.

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By the way to go way off topic I am listening to one of my latest SACD purchases - SHM version of Supertramp's Breakfast in America - great disk.

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Anyone had '3D signal detected' on a non-3D bluray? I've just popped I-Robot in and the message came up. Definitely the 2D version. Weird!

On another note, can any Oppo users suggest what color settings they are using with their VT60? Not sure if should be 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 and if Deep color should be off or 36bit.

Thanks!

I have a 103 - VT60 pro calibrated and mine was set to Deep Color - off, Output res - Source Direct, 1080p24 Output - Forced and Color space - 4:4:4, De-interlacing Mode - Auto Let me know if you need additional details.

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Tried your Color Temp NORMAL trick. Sky Blue for starters but it calibrated well while maintaining solid Gamma and blacks not crushed as opposed to trying this with Warm 2 which is waaaay closer to D65. The results are excellent and yields an output of 47.3 FtL with Accupel small patterns.


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Anyone had '3D signal detected' on a non-3D bluray? I've just popped I-Robot in and the message came up. Definitely the 2D version. Weird!

On another note, can any Oppo users suggest what color settings they are using with their VT60? Not sure if should be 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 and if Deep color should be off or 36bit.

Thanks!

Yes - a few times since I got mine in May. Nothing to worry about. Good pick on the blu - great picture, sound and a good flick to boot.

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Anyone know of a good HDMI splitter? The ones I have looked at on Best Buy, Monoprice, Amazon, don't seem to have unanimous great reviews. The reason I want one is because I want to try the 3D on my 65VT60, and my receiver doesn't pass the 3D signal. So I want to come out of the PS3 with HDMI, split it in two, with one going to the AVR and one going to the tv.

You may not be in the market for a new Blu-ray player, but you could always get the Panny BDT-500 which has dual hdmi outputs.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-DMP-BDT500P-Integrated-Blu-ray-Player/dp/B00752R4QO/ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER


I have a onkyo 805 which is non 3d and the bdt500 works great.
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After about a month and a lot fiddling I still find my tv to be too dark, even with contrast set to 75. As much as I live plasma in certain situations, I think I al going to swap it for a led (sony w905). We do a lot of daytime viewing and I have a feeling the Sony will fit us better.

Very sorry to hear that...
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Does it bother anyone that after spending what we've spent for a VT60, that we continue to have to fiddle with it and entertain spending hundreds more for a possible calibration?

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I don't feel that way. I put in the soundandvision.com settings, and tweaked my brightness, contrast and color with the spears and Munsil bluray for night mode. It looks stunning. S&V's settings for day mode. Set it and forget it.
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If you guys were given the choice to repurchase. Would you have grabbed a VT50 with no fan noise, but brighter blacks, and slightly inferior color decoding or would you still stick with your VT60?

My Oct. 13 build is awesome but the fan noise is defintely that low pulsing sound and the fix is applied which I saw behind the fan. I'm wondering for those who had the fix applied after delivery or prior to the builds that implemented at the factory if what you hear is still a low pulse or is it dead silent? Mine is very low but can still be heard. Obviously not a huge issue because my TV Isn't going to be on mute but just curious. The back where the fans are does get a little hot and so does above the fans. Everything else stays cool as a cucumber. It is beyond me why they would put bigger fans instead of like 5 smaller a ones throughout the unit.

Let me understand, you're asking if I would've passed up on one of the best TV's ever made and opted for last years inferior in almost every way VT50 because of a fan noise that I can't hear unless I have the set muted and I stand right next to it ? Is this what you're asking ? If so, the answer is a Strong No ! Would you? Who the hell would ?

I don't think 5 smaller fans would be quieter than the 2 that are in there. Do you ? It's warm around the fans because they're doing their job and expelling heat out of those vents.
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Anyone had '3D signal detected' on a non-3D bluray? I've just popped I-Robot in and the message came up. Definitely the 2D version. Weird!

On another note, can any Oppo users suggest what color settings they are using with their VT60? Not sure if should be 4:4:4 or 4:2:2 and if Deep color should be off or 36bit.

Thanks!

I suspect it's something with the Oppo triggering it, but not 100% either, but I have encountered it with my Oppo too. You can turn off the notification in the display's settings.

I would go with 4:4:4 and keep Deep Color turned off.

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There are Professional Calibrators that also provide education during the calibration session and will answer questions...

FYI, Chad is very good at taking the time of explaining and answering any questions as well as explaining the process, the charts, etc. I learned quite a bit from him over the years, but the customer has to be interested as you alluded.

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Does it bother anyone that after spending what we've spent for a VT60, that we continue to have to fiddle with it and entertain spending hundreds more for a possible calibration?

Who said you have to fiddle with it ? THX cinema out of the box is better than anything you can find on the market right now ( basically ever ). It sounds more like a personal issue. Some people are just fiddlers, whether it's a $2k set or a $500 doesn't make a difference. Some people will never be satisfied,even with a calibrated reference quality set you'd probably still want to tinker with it.
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I have had my 65VT60 for a little over a week now. Have about 150 or so hours on it. I just entered Dnice's VT60 settings and I have to say OMG!!! I cannot believe the picture quality of this set. I am coming from a Sony KDS60A3000 which when I purchased that set I was very happy with the picture quality. The SXRD was a good set, I did not have ANY of the known issues on my set, still looked like the day I bought it but it is a HUGE leap in picture quality to this plasma. Wasn't planning on buying yet but found out that they were not making them anymore and this would be my last chance to get a panasonic plasma. Black level is astounding compared to my Sony. Just watched Marvels Avengers on Dish and even not being blu-ray I was blown away with the 3 dimensionality of the picture due to the black level. Blu-ray is even more amazing. This is an awesome tv, glad I got one when I did.

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I have had my 65VT60 for a little over a week now. Have about 150 or so hours on it. I just entered Dnice's VT60 settings and I have to say OMG!!! I cannot believe the picture quality of this set. I am coming from a Sony KDS60A3000 which when I purchased that set I was very happy with the picture quality. The SXRD was a good set, I did not have ANY of the known issues on my set, still looked like the day I bought it but it is a HUGE leap in picture quality to this plasma. Wasn't planning on buying yet but found out that they were not making them anymore and this would be my last chance to get a panasonic plasma. Black level is astounding compared to my Sony. Just watched Marvels Avengers on Dish and even not being blu-ray I was blown away with the 3 dimensionality of the picture due to the black level. Blu-ray is even more amazing. This is an awesome tv, glad I got one when I did.

I too came from a 60" A3000 SXRD and it was a good display for the money back for 2007, no question. But, yes, the VT60 is in a different universe. smile.gif

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Does it bother anyone that after spending what we've spent for a VT60, that we continue to have to fiddle with it and entertain spending hundreds more for a possible calibration?
The fact that you, and a few others think that you have to "fiddle with it" doesn't really apply to anyone but you and a few others. wink.gif
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I have had my 65VT60 for three weeks and am just under 300 hours on it. I used the Cnet setting and this plasma has the best picture I have ever seen. I upgraded from 50UT50 which I was very happy with but the Mrs gave me the ok to go big and I am so happy that we did. biggrin.gif
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Let me understand, you're asking if I would've passed up on one of the best TV's ever made and opted for last years inferior in almost every way VT50 because of a fan noise that I can't hear unless I have the set muted and I stand right next to it ? Is this what you're asking ? If so, the answer is a Strong No ! Would you? Who the hell would ?

I don't think 5 smaller fans would be quieter than the 2 that are in there. Do you ? It's warm around the fans because they're doing their job and expelling heat out of those vents.

First I love how all of a sudden last year's VT50 is so,inferior. I own a VT50 and VT60 and yes the VT60 is better, but if you don't put them side by side you would be very happy with a VT50.
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I had the same problem, so I bought an optical cable for the sound to the receiver and an HDMI 1.4 cable for connecting the PS3 directly to the tv. Much cheaper than buying a new receiver.
And after having tested 3D I don't think I will be using the feature that much...

I have a PS3 and an Onkyo 604 which I don't think passes 3d. What would be my options to play 3d Blu rays?
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I recommend that newbies read this. "Plasma help guide with focus on Panasonic VT60 most common plasma questions answered here"

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1513205/plasma-help-guide-with-focus-on-panasonic-vt60-most-common-plasma-questions-answered-here
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First I love how all of a sudden last year's VT50 is so,inferior. I own a VT50 and VT60 and yes the VT60 is better, but if you don't put them side by side you would be very happy with a VT50.

It's inferior to the VT60. I didn't say it was a bad TV. I answered a goofy question, what don't you like about my answer ? You can take my comment out of context and act like I said the VT50 is a turd if you like, but that's not what I was saying at all. According to every review I've seen, the VT60 is superior to the VT50, so why would I exchange the VT60 for the VT50 because of a fan noise that can only be heard with the TV on mute while I'm 1ft away from the set?
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I have had mine in THX Cinema since I opened it and I am thrilled with the picture. I am afraid to put in settings from Dnice or CNET with the fear they may make my set worse. The general settings like brightness and contrast should be ok to use but adjusting the color balance seems a little risky. If my set trends in the opposite direction of the one Dnice used won't his settings will just compound the problems instead of fixing them?
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It's inferior to the VT60. I didn't say it was a bad TV. I answered a goofy question, what don't you like about my answer ? You can take my comment out of context and act like I said the VT50 is a turd if you like, but that's not what I was saying at all. According to every review I've seen, the VT60 is superior to the VT50.

First you you may think his question is goofy, but it was a legitimate question. And the VT60 is inferior to other sets as well. Inferior infers a strong tone, and I was not taking your statement out of context, but your answer was not helping the OP with what I am sure he felt was a serious question. With all the hysteria over the fan noise I think some people have a valid concern to ask that. If you have not seen a VT/ZT60 next to a VT50 then the VT50 is a kickass picture. Also I have seen a few comments that say the VT50 preserved black detail a little better than the VT60 and that the VT60 may crush blacks slightly.
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