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post #91 of 15005 Old 04-16-2013, 06:47 AM
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Cant wait to see more pictures.
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Hopefully pro calibration reviews coming soon.

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My 55 inch VT60 was delivered yesterday. Looks terrific.

More details please! smile.gif

Could you comment on the audio quality of the set? This is an important variable for me.

I feel strongly both ways!
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I'll check the audio after work tonight for you. I have speakers/receiver so I didn't actually push the speakers.
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Someone asked for some menu shots. Couldn't sleep this morning, so might as well make myself useful...

Didn't get much chance to actually play with the set last night --- was doing an orgy of recabling the rats-nest behind the TV stand.

A few notes on things I was worried about:

- buzzing. Yes, there is a little bit. Seeing as how the better half is still asleep, I have it on mute. When TV switches to a commercial with an all-white background, there's a bit of buzzing... not a lot, and if it wasn't on mute, I don't think I'd have noticed. The full-screen white also looked a bit subdued... I expect that's just a plasma thing though.

- along the same lines, at start-up a fan kicks on. it quiets down in a second or two. overall, the noise from the Dish PVR or the PS3 is louder than the set.

Pictures follow.

Here's my favorite little styling detail - little light-pipes that let the power and status LEDs float below the TV image.



One of the base stand, because it is pretty.



Side view. Someone asked about reflections... well, you can see it's basically a mirror.



Side view. Thin. And since this is the Internet, here's a curious cat.



The new red phosphor does seem to make some really red looking reds.



Here's one of the home screens. By default it comes up with something like this at boot time; you can change the home screen to full-screen video instead. There is also an ad (!) but there is blissfully a setting to turn that off. According to the tutorial (that plays at first-boot) you can set it up so that you can say "home screen" into the touchpad remote, the camera will pop-up, it will do facial ID on you and give you a customized home screen. All very silly and useless. smile.gif





Apps. There is an app marketplace. There are a surprising number of apps available. I've taken a few pics of them to avoid the inevitable "does it have MLB-net-stream support" questions.

Sadly, now that I look at them they all came out too dark for some reason. Sigh.










Menu screens. Took pics of the top level, drilled down where I thought there would be some interest (picture settings):










ISF calibration stuff is hidden behind a "professional mode" enable... Well, we will have to enable it won't we...



It adds Professional1 and Professional2 modes to the mode selection list. (this picture is also a nice black-level shot, purely by accident).







Pro settings. looks like you get Gamma and primary and secondary colorspace adjustments.









The "advanced" settings submenu.

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In the pictures with the menu what is the red dot below right of the Return camera anomaly pixel issue?
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In the pictures with the menu what is the red dot below right of the Return camera anomaly pixel issue?

No, I think that's the power LED.
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Is there anyway to have the red LED set to off when the TV set is on? I worry that it may be a bit distracting especially when watching in low light.
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Is there anyway to have the red LED set to off when the TV set is on? I worry that it may be a bit distracting especially when watching in low light.

Not that I have found.
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Is there anyway to have the red LED set to off when the TV set is on? I worry that it may be a bit distracting especially when watching in low light.

There is none for Panasonics (at least from waht I have read), this is a "hot topic" over at HDJ wink.gif

Maybe in 2014?I personally think its something little, but IMO it should be On when off and off when on......
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MrXo thank you again for taking the pics and going through all of this it is all greatly appreciated.
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There is none for Panasonics (at least from waht I have read), this is a "hot topic" over at HDJ wink.gif

Maybe in 2014?I personally think its something little, but IMO it should be On when off and off when on......

For what it's worth, the first thing it did when I attached Ethernet was pull an update from the mothership... Perhaps there is a chance it can get fixed in an update (assuming it's under software control).

Not much to hope for, but maybe if people pester Panasonic enough...

I personally don't notice it much; it's not as bright as it appears in the photos, but it is there.

Fun set-up trivia: the included batteries for the touchpad remote were too large to allow the battery cover to fit. I had to find some others...
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Looks great, I wonder whats up with the very spotty release of this unit........

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Looks great, I wonder whats up with the very spotty release of this unit........

It sounds like they are following teh same "plan type" with the ZT frown.gif frustrating could be a good word, hopefully you get one in soon so someone can get their hands on it and get it calibrated wink.gif
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It sounds like they are following teh same "plan type" with the ZT frown.gif frustrating could be a good word, hopefully you get one in soon so someone can get their hands on it and get it calibrated wink.gif

I don't like how Panasonic is handling any of this either. Samsung is much better on the ball with all of this.

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Looks great, I wonder whats up with the very spotty release of this unit........

Yeah, I'm kinda surprised to be one of the first to have one. Wasn't really the plan... normally would have waited at least for a review from a calibrator...

Speaking of which, if you wanted to calibrate one, you know, for a review... Well, I'd be happy to let you... smile.gif

Of course I no longer live in Cleveland, but the west coast is lovely this time of year. wink.gif

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Waiting to hear what these BLs are from one of the big boys (Chad, D-Nice, Kevin Miller, etc.). Let's hear it. wink.gif
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I don't like how Panasonic is handling any of this either. Samsung is much better on the ball with all of this.

I guess they have thier reasons and its not too far off what they have done in the past I believe (as far as dates go). What i see different is the release schedule, maybe they want to push people towards B&M and Amazon.....Hopefully a calibrator gets thier hands on one before the shootout. I may not like it, but it is what it is......

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Waiting to hear what these BLs are from one of the big boys (Chad, D-Nice, Kevin Miller, etc.). Let's hear it. wink.gif


yessss vinnie yessssssss I can feel you breaking down...... biggrin.gifwink.gif
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I think sometimes Panasonic over complicates things. Some of their huge losses might be reflective of that. I like the company, but just saying.

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MrXo, you are my new best friend. Let's discuss brightness fluctuations. Seeing any?? Maybe you could watch some hockey?? Maybe?? Perhaps?? biggrin.gif
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You probably want to change panel brightness to "mid".

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Of course I no longer live in Cleveland, but the west coast is lovely this time of year. wink.gif

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Is there anyway to have the red LED set to off when the TV set is on? I worry that it may be a bit distracting especially when watching in low light.

Hoping some black tape will do the trick. I've covered all sorts of LEDs in my living room with black tape.

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MrXo, you are my new best friend. Let's discuss brightness fluctuations. Seeing any?? Maybe you could watch some hockey?? Maybe?? Perhaps?? biggrin.gif

None seen yet... I'll see if I can find a hockey game to watch in my copious spare time.
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Hoping some black tape will do the trick. I've covered all sorts of LEDs in my living room with black tape.

It would be a shame to put black tape on such a lovely bezel...

I wonder if you could cut or remove the little light pipe instead...
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None seen yet... I'll see if I can find a hockey game to watch in my copious spare time.

Thanks!
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Anyone know how the anti reflective capability compares to the F8500?
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I just put the 60VT60 out for retail display today at 8am! I have a Elite PRO111 but would like a larger screen. I will def hold off until I can spend some time with the ZT though.

The picture was impressive on THX Bright Room right out of the box. I did not get to view BD but our OTA feed wasn't disappointing in the least. The 64F8500 is just a few feet awayay but just didn't seem to have as good of a picture. I've always thought the Samsung video processing has more artifacts than the Panny models but maybe I'm bias.

MSRP is 2999 for the 60VT60 and 3599 for the 65 based on what I saw today.
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The 64F8500 is just a few feet away but just didn't seem to have as good of a picture.

Ken on the F8500 thread had the opposite impression on seeing both next to each other. He thought the Samsung had the better picture, but qualified it by saying neither were calibrated.
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