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Great deal, they are in CA, UT, NV, ID in case anyone is wondering - about 9 stores or so.
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Just a heads up. I just purchased a 65" vt60 for $1200 at an RC Willey outlet brand new in the box. They can't sell them in the retail stores because they have been discontinued. I would call your local rc willey and see if they have any in stock. It's worth a shot
That's an insane price for arguably one of the greatest televisions ever made. I spent significantly more on my 55" and I feel like I stole it!
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a friend of mine was looking for one and none in my region, Even wants to give me $500 plus the price I paid for it.

Has this become a collector's

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Just a heads up. I just purchased a 65" vt60 for $1200 at an RC Willey outlet brand new in the box. They can't sell them in the retail stores because they have been discontinued. I would call your local rc willey and see if they have any in stock. It's worth a shot
Great deal. How many hours on the set?

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Great deal. How many hours on the set?
I just put on 3 last night It was brand new never used. The reason they are selling them in RC Willey outlets is because they have been discontinued and can no longer sell them in their retail stores. They have a 60" st-60 right now for under a $1000 (after bargaining, my favorite part about their outlet stores) in the Provo, Ut store where I got my Vt-60. If anyone lives in Utah I would snatch that up.
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65" VT60 here.

World of Tanks has left a faint circle on the bottom of both sides, where the map and tank view (whatever it's called) are. Have run screen wipe a bit. Got a little better, but still there.
Have not been playing the game for hours and hours on end with no break. A couple hours in the evenings.
Hope it'll get better. Pretty disappointed about it right now. Had the TV since Thanksgiving, no issues with it so far until now.
The retention seems to be about gone now. Have not gamed on it since my post quoted above.

I did input the calibration specs from CNET.....turns out that I had forgotten to turn off "overscan" that I turned on when I first got the TV. I read somewhere that overscan automatically disabled Pixel Orbiting, which is what helps the TV's avoid IR and burn in.

Sure wish I could game on it again. Might try a round or two and see how it does. TV still looks awesome, though. I hate not to use it, as it's our main TV.
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The retention seems to be about gone now. Have not gamed on it since my post quoted above.

I did input the calibration specs from CNET.....turns out that I had forgotten to turn off "overscan" that I turned on when I first got the TV. I read somewhere that overscan automatically disabled Pixel Orbiting, which is what helps the TV's avoid IR and burn in.

Sure wish I could game on it again. Might try a round or two and see how it does. TV still looks awesome, though. I hate not to use it, as it's our main TV.

Beware cnet's settings. Their set had a significant issue with magenta and David K's settings include placing the aspect ratio in 'just' which crops the edges of the picture and distorts the extreme left and right portions of the picture.
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65" VT60 here.

World of Tanks has left a faint circle on the bottom of both sides, where the map and tank view (whatever it's called) are. Have run screen wipe a bit. Got a little better, but still there.
Have not been playing the game for hours and hours on end with no break. A couple hours in the evenings.
Hope it'll get better. Pretty disappointed about it right now. Had the TV since Thanksgiving, no issues with it so far until now.
Played about 450 matches of UFC, turned the round clock off (don't really need it) and absolutely zero IR.
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Beware cnet's settings. Their set had a significant issue with magenta and David K's settings include placing the aspect ratio in 'just' which crops the edges of the picture and distorts the extreme left and right portions of the picture.
I remember that was in the settings. What settings would you recommend?
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I remember that was in the settings. What settings would you recommend?
None. There is too much variation between panels to simply plug in someone else's settings and expect them to be any more accurate than what you get just by leaving the display in the default thx modes.

If you'd like to try and improve your picture yourself there are several easy to use display optimizers available for purchase or download. Or you could just hire an ISF certified calibrator and leave no questions that your display is accurate.
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Just had a brand new VT60 delivered and setup running Dnice's break in slides. I'm getting significant plasma buzz on the lighter slides whilst the dark slides have little to no buzz.

Is this normal?
Will it improve over time?
Should I return the unit for a replacement while they still have stock?

I also own a V10 which I have had for close to 5 years and have never had any hint of plasma buzz.

Would appreciate some opinions.
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I have tried Prof-2 D-Nice settings, another one which I don't recall the name and something was missing and still something was telling my eyes that the settings were not correct. Then I fell upon these settings

http://www.soundandvision.com/conten...-hdtv-settings

and right away I noticed my eyes started appreciating this tv. I didn't change customs to 3d settings yet. I am not there.

Cnet custom seems ok, But I only watch it on PROF-2, its over a week a I am watching tv in this settings and so far its great watching various programs such as sports, movies. soaps and doc..

I'll apply the 3d settings in Custom when I have a 3d movie. I the above settings in Prof-2 could help someone why not share it.

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Just had a brand new VT60 delivered and setup running Dnice's break in slides. I'm getting significant plasma buzz on the lighter slides whilst the dark slides have little to no buzz.

Is this normal?
Will it improve over time?
Should I return the unit for a replacement while they still have stock?

I also own a V10 which I have had for close to 5 years and have never had any hint of plasma buzz.

Would appreciate some opinions.
Many thanks
Yes, 100% normal when running slides especially with the settings that are used to run slides. Buzz on the VT60 with actual content on the screen will be pretty much absent. You will not find many buzz complaints in this thread. Everyone's panel will buzz on a full white slide though and the loudest being when the panel is fresh and new running high contrast levels and everything turned on.
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Yes, 100% normal when running slides especially with the settings that are used to run slides. Buzz on the VT60 with actual content on the screen will be pretty much absent. You will not find many buzz complaints in this thread. Everyone's panel will buzz on a full white slide though and the loudest being when the panel is fresh and new running high contrast levels and everything turned on.

Good to hear. So all seems normal. I ran the slides on my V10 and there was some buzz albeit considerably less.

What setting do you recommend for break in slides?
Dnice recommends the default Custom picture mode for North American models. I have the Australian version of the VT60.
The Australian VT60 has the following default Custom picture mode settings.
Is the North American VT60 the same?
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Resolution Remaster Auto
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Panel Luminance Setting Mid
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It's taken, 3 years, 15 TVs, £30,000 worth of returns but I've finally arrived at the VT65, most impressed so far. Killer blacks, clean screen and lovely detailed PQ.

This set walks all over the Sony X9B and Panasonic AX802 4K set I tried, no difference whatsoever in detail from 10 feet viewing. Only the Samsung F8500 runs it close for all round PQ. It only cost me 60% of the price of the AX802 as well

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It's taken, 3 years, 15 TVs, £30,000 worth of returns but I've finally arrived at the VT65, most impressed so far. Killer blacks, clean screen and lovely detailed PQ.

This set walks all over the Sony X9B and Panasonic AX802 4K set I tried, no difference whatsoever in detail from 10 feet viewing. Only the Samsung F8500 runs it close for all round PQ. It only cost me 60% of the price of the AX802 as well
No offense but it's when I hear stuff like this it's no wonder TV manufacturers can't make any money. Lol! I'm not passing judgement and I'm happy you found a set you can enjoy-- but this is why I obsess about buying decisions. It sucks returning stuff.
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No offense but it's when I hear stuff like this it's no wonder TV manufacturers can't make any money. Lol! I'm not passing judgement and I'm happy you found a set you can enjoy-- but this is why I obsess about buying decisions. It sucks returning stuff.
I've photographed, recorded and documented every last set, just so people didn't think I was a crank. I just wasn't prepared to accept the garbage they were peddling at the premium price they were charging. Having said that I happily owned the ES8000 and F8500 for a year each until they packed in, most of the rest were "rapid fire" rejections.

Anyway hopefully the nightmare is behind me, this Tv is amazing, I should have bought one of these a year ago
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It's taken, 3 years, 15 TVs, £30,000 worth of returns but I've finally arrived at the VT65, most impressed so far. Killer blacks, clean screen and lovely detailed PQ.

This set walks all over the Sony X9B and Panasonic AX802 4K set I tried, no difference whatsoever in detail from 10 feet viewing. Only the Samsung F8500 runs it close for all round PQ. It only cost me 60% of the price of the AX802 as well
Congrats ! welcome to the owners club
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I just picked up a new 55" VT60 over the weekend. Other than watching it, is there anything else I should be doing? I got caught with my pants down regarding Panasonic discontinuing plasma production, and feel lucky to have gotten my hands on a set, even if pricing no longer favors the customer.

Is the additional filtering, and lack of an air gap, the only differences from a display perspective between the VT & ZT series?

Anyone know where to pick up a 65" VT or ZT for a reasonable price, and willing to share? I've seen some ZT's on Amazon listed for close to 8 grand. That's just a hair outside of my budget.
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Keep your settings conservative for the first 100 hours or so. Turn on pixel orbiter, auto=Off, vary content and enjoy

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It's taken, 3 years, 15 TVs, £30,000 worth of returns but I've finally arrived at the VT65, most impressed so far. Killer blacks, clean screen and lovely detailed PQ.

This set walks all over the Sony X9B and Panasonic AX802 4K set I tried, no difference whatsoever in detail from 10 feet viewing. Only the Samsung F8500 runs it close for all round PQ. It only cost me 60% of the price of the AX802 as well
Long road. Its funny how PQ tends to be an acquired taste - easy to pass this set up as 'dim garbage' until you 'get it'. At least you made it
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Long road. Its funny how PQ tends to be an acquired taste - easy to pass this set up as 'dim garbage' until you 'get it'. At least you made it
I had a good play with one of these over a year ago and went for the F8500 instead, I thought this was dim in comparison which it was but not garbage. What has turned out to be garbage is the 4K sets I've tried, just terrible screen uniformity.

I've found this TV can go as bright as I want it anyway

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Nothing like 99% perfect screen uniformity
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Yes, I wasn't expecting it to be this good, tiny bit of DSE if I micro scrutinise it but watching a few World Cup football matches and I can't see anything, same on the golf, if It passes those tests it's good enough for me

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I just picked up a new 55" VT60 over the weekend. Other than watching it, is there anything else I should be doing? I got caught with my pants down regarding Panasonic discontinuing plasma production, and feel lucky to have gotten my hands on a set, even if pricing no longer favors the customer.

Is the additional filtering, and lack of an air gap, the only differences from a display perspective between the VT & ZT series?

Anyone know where to pick up a 65" VT or ZT for a reasonable price, and willing to share? I've seen some ZT's on Amazon listed for close to 8 grand. That's just a hair outside of my budget.




I hope you wee kidding there but if not 8 grand is outright robbery. You should hold off for the LG OLEDs as the 65 inch will probably retail close to that.
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I hope you wee kidding there but if not 8 grand is outright robbery. You should hold off for the LG OLEDs as the 65 inch will probably retail close to that.
I was kidding, but only in the sense that it is WAY outside of my budget and not just a hair outside.

After reading that someone just picked up a 65" VT60 for $1200, I feel like I was gang raped on my 55", and I bought it from a long time friend that owns a small electronics store. If I could find a similar deal, I have a feeling I would own two of these televisions instead of just the one. I would actually like to see a ZT60 to see if there is much difference.

I have been in the market for quite some time for a newer, larger television, although not actively for a number of reasons, which is probably why I had no idea that Panasonic was exiting the plasma business. When I heard, via Facebook, I was quite bummed out. A quick internet search that day indicated I would have to mortgage a new house, and perform numerous sexual favors after driving hundreds or thousands of miles, if I wanted one of their last plasma sets. Needless to say, I was relieved to get one for a somewhat "reasonable" price.
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Keep your settings conservative for the first 100 hours or so. Turn on pixel orbiter, auto=Off, vary content and enjoy
Are those settings available in the user menu? I'm guessing that somewhere on this site the procedures for accessing the service menu are available, which would probably be risky in my hands.

The set I purchased was actually a floor, or wall, model at a friend's small electronics store. They had it mounted in a very small, very dark viewing & listening room. He estimated it had between 100-300 hours on it, and I'm guessing most of that time was on one of the two THX settings.

He knew what he had, and wasn't that interested in haggling over price. He didn't charge me sales tax, so that saved me a bit. I was disappointed that the last set he had was only 55", but it actually fits pretty nicely in my living room. 65" might have been too big. Did I just say that?
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$1200 for the 65" , I just paid £2300 ($3950) and that's the cheapest around over here if you can still find one

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