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post #14941 of 14961 Old 09-08-2014, 09:10 AM
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ARC, which means Audio Return Channel, implies that the end user has an ARC HDMI input on their receiver and they want to extract the audio signal, which by the way is only two channel.

As far as universal remotes go, one should always have a well programmed UR to replace the plethora of remotes on your coffee table regardless of using ARC or not.
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ARC, which means Audio Return Channel, implies that the end user has an ARC HDMI input on their receiver and they want to extract the audio signal, which by the way is only two channel.

As far as universal remotes go, one should always have a well programmed UR to replace the plethora of remotes on your coffee table regardless of using ARC or not.
Not sure where you get the ARC being only two channel, iirc it'll pass whatever the app or content is providing.

With HDMI-CEC it's possible to avoid having to use a universal remote, at least for most folks. I've got a Tivo connected to a Denon AVR-X3000 and the VT60. The VT60 is set to pass commands via CEC. I then have my Tivo remote configured to send the VT60 IR volume commands. These are passed to the X3000. This allows retaining use of the Tivo remote (arguably MUCH better than any UR out there) with really no complications at all. Likewise, I can use the Panasonic remote for any on-TV apps in a similar manner. This is kind of important as few universal remotes cover the same range of functionality when using TV apps or the Tivo. Yeah, some can come 'close enough' but then they usually have a terrible button layout (at least compared to the factory remotes).

But then I don't use any of the apps as they're pretty much terrible compared to solutions on the Tivo, Chromecast, Roku or AppleTV units also connected to the X3000.

I'm not arguing against using a universal remote, just offering that they're not as necessary as they might have been in the past if you're using a modern TV, AVR and connected devices.
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I think he meant from external sources you only get two channels.
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Hi!

I just bought a 65vt60 (one of the last ones here in The Netherlands i think), the image is just great. But when I'm watching movies (also full Blu rays), i'm having these gradient banding when an image goes from bright to dark (gradiently? :P). This was also on the vt50 i owned very shortly. I'm using purely my HTPC as a source.

Could it mean it's the source, or is this normal? (Because my old crappy 50 inch LG plasma did not even have it this bad.

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@Tennie

The posterisation type banding you describe could possibly be reduced by tweaking settings. However, a certain amount is pretty normal for these sets.
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Thanks!

Ok, then i will let it go(after some tweaking), i only wondered if it was a bad thing. Once you see the effects, you can't stop seeing it .

What tweaks could you recommend? i've tried a lot, but nothing seems to help. Setting the HDMI source to 'Photo' seems to help a bit, but then again, everything will become brighter.
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Usually torch lights, right? Tron Legacy shows it up badly with some parts and when the woman's finger lights up before they kit him out.

Yet Iron Man's repulsors are smooth. As are car lights.
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Usually torch lights, right? Tron Legacy shows it up badly with some parts and when the woman's finger lights up before they kit him out.

Yet Iron Man's repulsors are smooth. As are car lights.
Indeed! It's in cases where some light source relative quickly goes from full bright to full dark (but gradually).
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http://www.avforums.com/threads/what...izing.1598890/

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Also, it's much more likely that blue color will exhibit DFC, because response time of blue phosphor is very short. Green and red are much slower, so they are producing light between subfields also (as I recorded in dithering thread). Unfortunately, they are leaving yellow trails for the same reason. Quicker the phosphor = less yellow trailing but higher possibility of DFC
I guess thats why I see it badly with Tron and certain torches.
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Did any of the latest firmware updates fix the issue regarding the battery-powered 3D glasses draining? They stayed on even after switching from a 3D signal to 2D. The only way to prevent this was to manually turn off the glasses or the TV. It seems it's been fixed, I think the TV sends a power-off command to all the connected glasses after a period of time of no 3D, I just wanted to be sure.
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I am contemplating selling my 65VT60. Since getting my front projector setup in my master bedroom sitting room about 5 or so months ago that has been my go to for viewing every single night.

My VT60 is used during the day and mostly for cartoons and kids movies. Really thinking about picking up a 64H5000. I almost feel like my VT60 is being underused for it's purpose and my initial reason for buying it which was for the great black levels and night time viewing which right now is getting non of that.

I posted an add a few weeks ago to see the interest in the TV and was offered $2,400 for it. Also got another message recently from someone that was interested. Not sure what I should do.

I keep questioning if I will regret getting rid of my VT60 but then on the other hand I can still get what I consider a decent TV and walk away with some extra money on top of it.

Decisions, decisions.
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I am contemplating selling my 65VT60. Since getting my front projector setup in my master bedroom sitting room about 5 or so months ago that has been my go to for viewing every single night.

My VT60 is used during the day and mostly for cartoons and kids movies. Really thinking about picking up a 64H5000. I almost feel like my VT60 is being underused for it's purpose and my initial reason for buying it which was for the great black levels and night time viewing which right now is getting non of that.

I posted an add a few weeks ago to see the interest in the TV and was offered $2,400 for it. Also got another message recently from someone that was interested. Not sure what I should do.

I keep questioning if I will regret getting rid of my VT60 but then on the other hand I can still get what I consider a decent TV and walk away with some extra money on top of it.

Decisions, decisions.
That's a pretty good price. I would be tempted. OLED coming down in price too. Vinnie said he's selling his zt with 3000 hours on it for $2000.
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That's a pretty good price. I would be tempted. OLED coming down in price too. Vinnie said he's selling his zt with 3000 hours on it for $2000.
Wow, Vinnie is selling his ZT60? What is he replacing it with? Hopefully not another 55" OLED.
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Wow, Vinnie is selling his ZT60? What is he replacing it with? Hopefully not another 55" OLED.
I think Vinnie wants the 77" big dog. But I'm not sure if he will settle for 65" due to price.
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I am contemplating selling my 65VT60. Since getting my front projector setup in my master bedroom sitting room about 5 or so months ago that has been my go to for viewing every single night.

My VT60 is used during the day and mostly for cartoons and kids movies. Really thinking about picking up a 64H5000. I almost feel like my VT60 is being underused for it's purpose and my initial reason for buying it which was for the great black levels and night time viewing which right now is getting non of that.

I posted an add a few weeks ago to see the interest in the TV and was offered $2,400 for it. Also got another message recently from someone that was interested. Not sure what I should do.

I keep questioning if I will regret getting rid of my VT60 but then on the other hand I can still get what I consider a decent TV and walk away with some extra money on top of it.

Decisions, decisions.
If it is only used for the kids, you probably should just sell it and replace it with a Vizio Led. The kids will probably like the over exaggerated colors of an Led, plus it will use much less power, and you really won't have to worry about IR/Burn in much..

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If it is only used for the kids, you probably should just sell it and replace it with a Vizio Led. The kids will probably like the over exaggerated colors of an Led, plus it will use much less power, and you really won't have to worry about IR/Burn in much..
I cannot do the LED thing. I tried to many times and kept coming back to plasma's. Also, side angle viewing is important to me for this room as my couches are setup on the sides of the TV and not dead center. This TV is also viewed from my dining room table which is a room over from the TV.

I think if it wasn't for the terrible viewing angles I might be able to suck it up with a Vizio full array or something but that just really kills it besides all the other things I hate about the tech.

Also, I do not worry about IR or burn in with my VT60. It has been great so far and my worries with that are non existent and Samsung plasma are usually even better with IR. Haven't seen a H5000 in person yet but right now I think that would be my front runner if I were to sell my VT60.

Getting rid of my VT60 is a tough decision to make though. I keep going back and forth in my head!

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Having the inside of the new house painted this week and will finally be able to mount my 60VT60 on the wall, anyone have a recommendation for a sturdy low profile mount? Also, what's the recommended mounting height if I sit back 13-14 ft. from the display with a viewing height of 42 inches?
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Vt 60 zt60

Hello, I reside in NorthEast Jersey, have been on all kinds of websites. I'm looking for a used 65 inch VT60 or ZT60. I have gone back to the stores, and for me 4K tv is not cutting it jejejeje. Anybody have a used good condition TV. I still love plasma over LED!
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Hello, I reside in NorthEast Jersey, have been on all kinds of websites. I'm looking for a used 65 inch VT60 or ZT60. I have gone back to the stores, and for me 4K tv is not cutting it jejejeje. Anybody have a used good condition TV. I still love plasma over LED!
I would ask in the plasma classified section - plasma classifieds
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Unhappy I have HELP!

I did. Have like 70 views, not one reply ! ! !
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I did. Have like 70 views, not one reply ! ! !
No one wants to get rid of theirs since they're no longer made...I would keep checking Amazon.
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