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post #15841 of 15859 Old 02-07-2015, 07:30 PM
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So I don't have bluray, i rip all to ISOs (no compression) and play on my PopcornHour A-400 from my NAS.


Seems motion and this effect is worse on popcornhour than my XBOX One.


On my XBOX I mostly watch Netflix, hulu and play games. Motion seems better but not what I thought it would be.


I now have 500 hours on this set and its not any better than the day i bought it. I should have tried returning it


I had an older, lower end, Panasonic plasma before this one as well and motion was not an issue.


Everything goes directly through my Yamaha RX-A2020 as it did before with no issues....


Its like the different colors are not in sync. Is that even possible?


Now my girlfriend of course doesn't notice and is amazed by the picture, but I can see it. (I want to un-see it so bad!) I'm sure this is the case with most of us in this forum when we notice a visual anomaly!
So I've been struggling with motion issues since i got the set and I'm really at wits end. I even called Panasonic but they were not much help.


So attached is 2 pictures of the motion issue. It shows it self most apparently when moving the cursor around in Destiny. The cursor is a single ring, as some of you may be familiar. On my set it is single when still, but doubles when i move it. This same thing happens during other movement when watching Blu-ray from different source. The XBOX One is directly connected now and the issue is exactly the same.


I have all the enhancement function off. The only one that helps is "Motion smoother" but only after it "catches up" with the movement. The doubling effect is still there for the start of any movement then goes away. "Game Mode" on or off does nothing.


Any ideas? is this to be expected? how do i get Panasonic to fix this


Just a note, this doesn't happen for all things moving on the screen. The space ship in pictures is slowly bobbing up and down and looks rick solid so I'm totally confused.
Its like some things in motion are so awesome on the set but then some motion is extremely crappy!
Turn pixel orbiter to Auto.
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Hi,
I have exactly the same phenomenon on mine 55VT60.....
It doesnt matter if I use TP or WIFI, It also shows on DVB-T(2) and when I input 1080i/p in any HDMI, not when I input 720p from HDMI!....
I almost always run DVB-S from HDMI at 720p so I havnt noticed it until recently!...

Could it be a heating problem?...
I bought it 13 months ago!..and have the fan upgrade fix done!

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Hi!

I wanted to report that the green flash phenomenon is also present here. I have a 5 month old P55VTW60 (European model). The flash appears at the lower half or maybe 2/3rd part ot the screen, I guess only for one single frame.
It comes once in few hours. I've started to notice it couple of weeks ago. I don't see any connection with tv or ambient temperature. It occurs both with HDMI source and internal source (cl+ card)
It's a bit worrying.

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Hi!

I wanted to report that the green flash phenomenon is also present here. I have a 5 month old P55VTW60 (European model). The flash appears at the lower half or maybe 2/3rd part ot the screen, I guess only for one single frame.
It comes once in few hours. I've started to notice it couple of weeks ago. I don't see any connection with tv or ambient temperature. It occurs both with HDMI source and internal source (cl+ card)
It's a bit worrying.

Huh? I've never heard of that model
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Huh? I've never heard of that model
Nothing special, it is the same as any VT60, just labeled as VTW showing that is targeted to the 'W'estern market in Europe. Minor difference around the tuners due to some regulations I guess.

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Hi!

I wanted to report that the green flash phenomenon is also present here. I have a 5 month old P55VTW60 (European model). The flash appears at the lower half or maybe 2/3rd part ot the screen, I guess only for one single frame.
It comes once in few hours. I've started to notice it couple of weeks ago. I don't see any connection with tv or ambient temperature. It occurs both with HDMI source and internal source (cl+ card)
It's a bit worrying.

Your problem may be an indication of the SD board or the SS2 board starting to fail. Here is the board layout for the North American VT60. It should be the same for your unit.

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Your problem may be an indication of the SD board or the SS2 board starting to fail. Here is the board layout for the North American VT60. It should be the same for your unit.

Larry
Thanks!
The TV is 8 month old, with 1000 hours of switch-on time.
It has still a valid guarantee for the next 4 months, so I hope the customer service can help. The problem is that the green flash shows up very rarely, so it is hard/impossible to present it to the technician.
Anyhow, I will have to make that phone call, I guess.
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Thanks!

The TV is 8 month old, with 1000 hours of switch-on time.

It has still a valid guarantee for the next 4 months, so I hope the customer service can help.

Are guarantees important there?
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Are guarantees important there?
Yes. If you buy a TV here (Hungary) you get 1 year guarantee. If you have an issue, they are obliged to fix it in this period for free (incl transportation).
My only concern is that I bought this tv in another country, because as the plasma production ended, it was out of stock everywhere.
Now, there is a thing called Panasonic Pan-European guarantee, which ensures you get the free fix in your country independently of the fact where you bought it (within Europe), but I've never tried this option, and I know that services here are not so happy if you ask them to fix a TV that was bought a thousand kilometers or miles away
So even though everything sounds good on the paper, it is not so sure you will have an easy ride in such situation :-/

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Anyone know how hot the back is supposed to get? The left side (facing the back panel) under the fan gets the hottest.
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Where can i find a calibration sheet to try on?
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Your problem may be an indication of the SD board or the SS2 board starting to fail. Here is the board layout for the North American VT60. It should be the same for your unit.

Larry
Quick status update on the 'green flash' issue of my P55VT60:
Yesterday I was watching TV (on CI+ interface) and was playing around in the TV menu when I noticed again the quick green flash, but I am 95% sure that only the TV program in the background was flashing and not the menu in the front!
I don't know the internal block scheme of the TV, but this tells me that the root cause of the issue is not in the panel or panel drive electronics, but somewhere earlier in the chain (and just as a reminder: the symptom is source and cable independent. It shows up both with CI+ or with HDMI source).
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Has anyone noticed shimmering, jaggies, or moire while watching content? I've had a VT60 for going on two years, and I seem to notice it more now than I ever have. Maybe it's always been there, and I just never noticed before? It's appearing on TV, Netflix, and even Blu-ray discs.
I myself notice this lately more than ever. I could've sworn that it displayed it crisp smooth image before yet now that's suddenly not the case.

No amount of sharpness adjustment fixes this either. Even at 0 sharpness the jaggies still remain - this is across all sources.
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Regarding the green flash issue - I myself suffered from this issue occasionally for months. Then I noticed my menu would have little flickers all over it in different sections of the screen. I thought for sure it was a panel issue. Had Geek Squad replace the main board in hopes that'd fix it and it did. No issues since.
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Try to decrease the "Intelligent Frame Creation" setting, its on maximum by default... This should do the trick!... :-)
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Panasonic service is coming home to me to exchange the main board due to the green flashes.... :-)
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Try to decrease the "Intelligent Frame Creation" setting, its on maximum by default... This should do the trick!... :-)
What is Intelligent Frame Creation and where is it in the menus? I could not find it in my VT60 menus.
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What is Intelligent Frame Creation and where is it in the menus? I could not find it in my VT60 menus.
Strange. It is called IFC. Should be in the Pitcure menu. Sometimes it is greyed out, if not available (eg in Game mode). Or -as far I know- it is called a bit different in case of 24p playback.
This IFC is the Panasonic marketing name for frame extrapolation. You know, that makes the so called 'soap opera' effect

But it is surely there on the VT60 (at least on European models).
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Strange. It is called IFC. Should be in the Pitcure menu. Sometimes it is greyed out, if not available (eg in Game mode). Or -as far I know- it is called a bit different in case of 24p playback.
This IFC is the Panasonic marketing name for frame extrapolation. You know, that makes the so called 'soap opera' effect

But it is surely there on the VT60 (at least on European models).
Checked again, but the closest I could find was Motion Smoother. Maybe it has a different name for US versions.
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