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post #15991 of 16003 Old 04-15-2015, 08:34 AM
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The 493 is how many different color patches I measured for this calibration report.
Yes, I realize that. But why 493 and not some other number?

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If you want to view the different color patches and the 21 grayscale patches along with the report. Click on the link below, download file and open with your browser.

If you get a redirect just x out of the redirect and you will be back on the download page for this file. Its safe

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php...70079727924087

I'll have a look next time I'm at my desktop machine.

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Yes, I realize that. But why 493 and not some other number?

I'll have a look next time I'm at my desktop machine.

Thank you.
Measuring 493 points save's me time, and gives me a good understanding on how the process came out.
I know my VT60, but if it was a different display I would run a 1000 point measurement report as I have in the past on my VT60.

Most calibration reports that you will see only measure 10 points of the grayscale and up to (usually 7 points) 93 gamut points.

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Measuring 493 points save's me time, and gives me a good understanding on how the process came out.

I know my VT60, but if it was a different display I would run a 1000 point measurement report as I have in the past on my VT60.



Most calibration reports that you will see only measure 10 points of the grayscale and up to (usually 7 points) 93 gamut points.



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That would make 103 in total (10 + 93).

Again, you haven't really explained how that 493 number is derived. I'm guessing it's 400 + the above mentioned 93 gamut points, with the 400 coming from somewhere. If you can explain this, I won't need to guess.

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What is the target gamma for THX 3-D? I know THX cinema is 2.2 with typical VT readings of 2.26-2.27, bright room is 1.9 typically at 1.92 on VT's. Just curious what the target gamma for THX 3-D is?
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Do you guys think all isf pro calibrator will get the same result if they will calibrate the vt60?or it depends whoever calibrating the set? Im about hiring someone, im choosing two of them the other one charge me $100 less than the other guy. Do u think does it matter?
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Do you guys think all isf pro calibrator will get the same result if they will calibrate the vt60?or it depends whoever calibrating the set? Im about hiring someone, im choosing two of them the other one charge me $100 less than the other guy. Do u think does it matter?
A good tell tail is what kind of meter or meters does he use, how much experience does he have with the VT60, references.


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That would make 103 in total (10 + 93).
Again, you haven't really explained how that 493 number is derived. I'm guessing it's 400 + the above mentioned 93 gamut points, with the 400 coming from somewhere. If you can explain this, I won't need to guess.
Look at the report, otherwise guess.
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Curious how often you guys have your display calibrated? I've read that some of you have had your display get brighter and shift. I believe my display has gotten brighter with age but what's "shift"? I had my 60VT60 calibrated by Chad B last February when it had 400 hours on it. The display currently has 3800 hours and I sent Chad B an email to see if he can do a tune-up next time he's in the area.

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Curious how often you guys have your display calibrated? I've read that some of you have had your display get brighter and shift. I believe my display has gotten brighter with age but what's "shift"? I had my 60VT60 calibrated by Chad B last February when it had 400 hours on it. The display currently has 3800 hours and I sent Chad B an email to see if he can do a tune-up next time he's in the area.
According to the calibrators you're due for a check-up. I'm coming up on 2 years with my VT60 and DNice did mine a few months after I bought it. Honestly the picture looks as good as ever and I'm not dropping $ for something that isn't bothering me right now. The next set I buy may push me into the DIY calibration category. Can't watch everything on my VT

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According to the calibrators you're due for a check-up. I'm coming up on 2 years with my VT60 and DNice did mine a few months after I bought it. Honestly the picture looks as good as ever and I'm not dropping $ for something that isn't bothering me right now. The next set I buy may push me into the DIY calibration category. Can't watch everything on my VT
Agree...will get a tune-up in the next month or two if Chad B is available and then maybe again in 2 years. Picture still looks fantastic and I'm impressed more and more each time I watch it. I didn't realize how many hours I put on the display in a year...is 3800 hours in 15 months the norm?

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According to the calibrators you're due for a check-up. I'm coming up on 2 years with my VT60 and DNice did mine a few months after I bought it. Honestly the picture looks as good as ever and I'm not dropping $ for something that isn't bothering me right now. The next set I buy may push me into the DIY calibration category. Can't watch everything on my VT
Uhoh once you start diy youll be hooked
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I had D-Nice out to calibrate my 55VT60 and 65VT60 last week. After numerous fiddling with my iDisplay Pro and never being fully satisfied, I now feel much better about the performance I'm getting.

After some discussion, D-Nice opted to use the Normal color temp and target BT1886 gamma for ISF Night and 2.2ish for ISF Day. I primarily watch in a dark room, so I could care less about day mode, even though squeezing over 50ftL out of both sets was surprising to me. I had some initial concerns with older movies looking bad with BT1886, but he assured me that, when done properly, there are not any issues.

The black-levels measured a little differently on the two panels, as I expected from my own experiences with my iDiplay Pro (.0012 on the 65 and .0017 on the 55 via D-Nice's Klein K10a). I wanted the max output for both sets as close as possible for consistency purposes (32ish is my usual target). There ended up being a subtle gap between the two, with the 65 coming in at 33ftL and the 55 coming in at 31ftL. D-Nice told me that when he attempted to click up the contrast on the 55, weird anomalies started happening with the grayscale. While I can definitely notice a subtle difference between the two with my eyes in terms of brightness, I doubt it would be worth the grayscale sacrifices.

My only regret is clearing out my personal settings before D-Nice arrived. I would have been curious to see just how off my settings were in comparison to his measurements. Another interesting thing I noticed was that the brightness was set to +4 on both panels (2.4 gamma preset). I always had mine at +7 from using the AVSHD brightness chart. Clearly, I have a lot to learn

Overall, I'm very pleased with the results. I have a link to the reports-only (no settings), but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post them or not.

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I've got to envy you guys that have access to great calibrators. I'm in Singapore and although I found a few guys who did calibration here, non do now. That's also coupled with the fact that you'd never be too sure here if they would be any good anyway, references etc.
I'm just wondering if I could get enough people here to make it viable to all put in for an airfare and a few nights in a good hotel for some like D-Nice or SillySally to consider a flying visit, a couple of days calibrating then have a free holiday.
Just chucking an idea up the air

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I've got to envy you guys that have access to great calibrators. I'm in Singapore and although I found a few guys who did calibration here, non do now. That's also coupled with the fact that you'd never be too sure here if they would be any good anyway, references etc.
I'm just wondering if I could get enough people here to make it viable to all put in for an airfare and a few nights in a good hotel for some like D-Nice or SillySally to consider a flying visit, a couple of days calibrating then have a free holiday.
Just chucking an idea up the air
Wow..., if I was a calibrator and got an offer like that it would be hard to turn down.
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