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post #16471 of 16728 Old 03-22-2016, 07:39 AM
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Sounds like one of the boards in the back is failing. I had a similar issue with my F8500 and Samsung had to replace several boards X,Y before the issue was resolved.

This is a reminder why I bought a VT60 that came with a Geek Squad warranty.
Absolutely a great call on your part! Wish I would've done the same now.
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I had the same problem with my oldest Panasonic plasma, a 500U. I think I fixed my problem by unplugging and letting it sit before plugging it back in.
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My GT50 kept powering off and rebooting randomly. It ended up being replaced with the VT because of that.

Only recently I discovered this:



I spent a good deal of time talking to shop about this issue and I was not made aware at the time that Panasonic knew its cause, which they evidently did.
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Has anyone else here experienced their VT60 powering itself down at random times? My 65VT60 will turn itself off for no apparent reason 3-4 times per day. I don't think overheating is the issue (wide open cooled space). When it happens, the TV can be turned back without issue and will usually stay on for 1-3 hours before it turns itself off again.

Any help would be appreciated.
I just started to have this issue with mine. Over last weekend the picture disappeared but had sound. Had to try to unplug and reset. Took about 10 minutes but came back on. Then Tuesday, tv shut off automatically. Kept trying to plug and unplug about 4 times before it finally came back on. My wife said this has happened to her a couple times also. Concerned I am going to lose this great tv.
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Has anyone else here experienced their VT60 powering itself down at random times? My 65VT60 will turn itself off for no apparent reason 3-4 times per day. I don't think overheating is the issue (wide open cooled space). When it happens, the TV can be turned back without issue and will usually stay on for 1-3 hours before it turns itself off again.

Any help would be appreciated.
Ugh, reading your post worries me. I have my set since mid Nov. 2013. It has been well loved for 2+ hours daily and 4+ hours on the weekends. The kids practically owns it. I hope you can find a resolution to your problem quickly. I wouldn't know what to replace this beloved set if it were to give out. Best of luck to you.
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Ugh, reading your post worries me. I have my set since mid Nov. 2013. It has been well loved for 2+ hours daily and 4+ hours on the weekends. The kids practically owns it. I hope you can find a resolution to your problem quickly. I wouldn't know what to replace this beloved set if it were to give out. Best of luck to you.
I found my replacement, LG 55EF9500 OLED, so far it's been a good replacement for my sick VT60 that I have to get a service call in on, it's got a 1 blinking LED issue that takes 5-10 retries to eventually power up.
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Ugh, reading your post worries me. I have my set since mid Nov. 2013. It has been well loved for 2+ hours daily and 4+ hours on the weekends. The kids practically owns it. I hope you can find a resolution to your problem quickly. I wouldn't know what to replace this beloved set if it were to give out. Best of luck to you.
I realize this is blasphemy suggesting this in a plasma discussion thread but the Vizio P series has gotten a lot of good attention lately and the 65" is less than half the EF9500 and the new 2016 OLED models. For people that don't have $5000 for a TV it seems to be a good TV for the money.
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I found my replacement, LG 55EF9500 OLED, so far it's been a good replacement for my sick VT60 that I have to get a service call in on, it's got a 1 blinking LED issue that takes 5-10 retries to eventually power up.
I am so out of touch with OLED tech. I think I am also prolonging the "quest" for my eventual VT60 replacement. But when I do, I will consider OLED, but not quite sure about LGs. Had a few friends with that branding and all seems to exhibit those pesky dead/blinking pixel problems.
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I realize this is blasphemy suggesting this in a plasma discussion thread but the Vizio P series has gotten a lot of good attention lately and the 65" is less than half the EF9500 and the new 2016 OLED models. For people that don't have $5000 for a TV it seems to be a good TV for the money.
While I am trying to be friendly to my pockets, I do however really want something "quality" if it's worth it. I will keep an eye out for the Vizio P series as you have recommended. Thanks for the advise. And at the same time, it is a blasphemy to mention L.E.D. in a plasma discussion... :P
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While I am trying to be friendly to my pockets, I do however really want something "quality" if it's worth it. I will keep an eye out for the Vizio P series as you have recommended. Thanks for the advise. And at the same time, it is a blasphemy to mention L.E.D. in a plasma discussion... :P
You mean "LCD" and it is blasphemy, OLED however isn't a dirty word as far as quality.
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Just replaced the HDMI board which stopped functioning. Thank you Squaretrade for that 4 year warranty that I'm 2 1/2 years into.

In any case, LCD/LED tech has improved so much since buying this TV, that I may upgrade sometime soon. I was very impressed with the backlight strobing tech which effectively does motion blur BETTER than Plasmas, without the additional input lag. By comparison, the VT60 manages its best motion blur handling when motion smoother is on, which adds a severe amount of input lag, making it a useless option for gaming. The VT60 does a respectable job with motion blur even in game mode, but a far cry from weak smoother, and lcd/led Backlight strobing. The ST30 I had, and S2 still in the house handles motion better than the VT60, but still doesn't catch up to new LCD backlight strobing.

I'm interested in OLED, but only once they have adopted backlight scanning/strobing the way LCD/LED has. It's just too important for gaming.

The only downsides for LCD/LED backlight strobes, is that it adds a subtle flicker, and a doubling if fps in games are 30fps.

This is different from motion interpolation, which we probably agree sucks.

http://www.testufo.com/#test=eyetracking

On new LCD/LEDs, the moving ufo can look as crisp and sharp as the static one. Something not even the VT60 can pull off. That is a clear sign of how well motion can be handled.
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I was at Best Buy last night picking up a surge protector and just happened to noticed LG has a flat 65" OLED. Pricey at $4999. But the picture looked incredible.
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I was at Best Buy last night picking up a surge protector and just happened to noticed LG has a flat 65" OLED. Pricey at $4999. But the picture looked incredible.
They've been on sale recently for $3500 and the 55" for $2500 at Microcenter, that's what I bought to relpace my ailing 55VT60
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I am just saying that at this moment in time if I was forced to replace either my 55" VT60 or my 60" VT60 plasma I would have to take a hard look at the Vizio P series. I just can't justify to my family that I need to spend $6000 on a new OLED. However, if in 6 months they have some great sales on the 2016 B6 model LG is launching this summer for under $4k then I would definitely look there first.

I really think 2016 is the year TV tech pulls away from plasma. I've heard great things even on FALD LCDs with 4k + DolbyVision streaming with VUDU. I am very interested to see it for myself. I couldn't justify a EF9500 even for $3500 either since its missing DolbyVision.
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They've been on sale recently for $3500 and the 55" for $2500 at Microcenter, that's what I bought to relpace my ailing 55VT60
I got to get out more. I thought they were all curve. That picture was worth $3500. But not $4999.00.
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I am just saying that at this moment in time if I was forced to replace either my 55" VT60 or my 60" VT60 plasma I would have to take a hard look at the Vizio P series. I just can't justify to my family that I need to spend $6000 on a new OLED. However, if in 6 months they have some great sales on the 2016 B6 model LG is launching this summer for under $4k then I would definitely look there first.

I really think 2016 is the year TV tech pulls away from plasma. I've heard great things even on FALD LCDs with 4k + DolbyVision streaming with VUDU. I am very interested to see it for myself. I couldn't justify a EF9500 even for $3500 either since its missing DolbyVision.
I just replaced my 65VT60 with a Vizio P75-C1. In the couple of days I've had it I'd say that the only thing the LCD display gives up to the Panasonic is off-axis viewing (the Vizio washes out a bit) and uniformity on test patterns (more or less inherent to LCD). Strangely enough the uniformity nits don't seem to manifest themselves during normal viewing even on fast pans.

The color, resolution, pop, and black level on the Vizio are much improved compared to the Panasonic. Dolby Vision is pretty dang neat and the wider color gamut is immediately noticeable. However, the biggest difference to me is the sheer dynamic range the set can produce. It can get retina-searingly bright yet blacks are BLACK. Vizio's FALD implementation is really something special.

All that said, the Vizio can't do 3D and the Panasonic isn't exactly a slouch. If you're not particularly interested in UHD/4K/WCG/HDR I see no reason to upgrade just yet.
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I got to test out the Vizio P75-C1 at my local BestBuy yesterday.

Coming off a 60VT60, I can say the picture looked incredible. I think I'll be holding out for a bit until the 65" version of the P comes down a few hyndred in price.
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The hardest thing I have had to get use to since my 65VT60 gave up the ghost is the off center wash out. Besides the OLEDs, LED just don't retain the image off angle. Don't get me wrong My Samsung 65JS8500 has an outstanding picture straight on, but doesn't hold a candle to the VT60 for off angle viewing. Now if the OLEDs were a little more in line with their LED counter parts then I would have gone with that. I just wasn't ready for the VT60 to be replaced.

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I got to test out the Vizio P75-C1 at my local BestBuy yesterday.

Coming off a 60VT60, I can say the picture looked incredible. I think I'll be holding out for a bit until the 65" version of the P comes down a few hyndred in price.
Honestly 2K is a good price for what you get. But almost doubling the price for the 75" is too rich for my blood.

I too have the 60VT60 and feel no rush yet. Especially since I know the floodgates will open when I go 4K. UHD player, AVR that supports HDR and not to mention double-dipping!
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Honestly 2K is a good price for what you get. But almost doubling the price for the 75" is too rich for my blood.

I too have the 60VT60 and feel no rush yet. Especially since I know the floodgates will open when I go 4K. UHD player, AVR that supports HDR and not to mention double-dipping!
I agree completely. I have 2 VT60s and they both work fine, but I keep planning what I am going to get when I am forced to use my Geek Squad warranty. Right now its a P65, but that could change based upon how long my TVs last.

I am also in no rush either because my Denon receiver barely does 4K and my DirecTV STB only does 1080i, my streaming media player is only 1080p, PS4 is 1080p, and all my media files are 1080p. It would be an extremely expensive day to upgrade all that.

When I demo'd a Vizio M70 last summer I was not happy with the upscaled 1080i/720p picture of the DirecTV channels.
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Any of you considered making to leap to front projection? Daunting at first, but for those who can put in some time it is well worth it.

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Any of you considered making to leap to front projection? Daunting at first, but for those who can put in some time it is well worth it.

I built a new home a couple years ago and have a dedicated theater with a Sony 600ES 4K PJ, a 138" 16:9 screen with masking panels, and an all JTR 7.2 speaker setup with 8000 watts RMS sub power. I predict by the end of summer I'll be Doblyizing with a 7.2.4

I have zero reason to watch movies on my 65VT60 anymore.

Last night I recalibrated it to BT.1886 gamma and was amazed as always how good this PDP is. The combination of ChromaPure 3.x and ControlCal makes the process go very fast. Unfortunately, I then put on some very high contrast reference content and no matter what the environmental light situation I was constantly reminded that there is nothing like pure black and no plasma can come close to OLED. Contrast rules.

Because my VT60 will be used mostly for watching sports in my bar I'm in no hurry to replace it, but if an OLED comes along with Panasonic like controlability I may not be able to resist.
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Last night I recalibrated it to BT.1886 gamma and was amazed as always how good this PDP is. The combination of ChromaPure 3.x and ControlCal makes the process go very fast.




The 60 Series calibrate like no other consumer TV. I specialize in 3D LUTs but none are required for the Panasonic.

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What is the maximum number of source colours you presented in a single test pattern?

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What is the maximum number of source colours you presented in a single test pattern?

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I'm not sure what you're asking. Each individual pattern consists of one color.

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It was working yesterday, but this morning I had to reset my AVR to factory setting. So once I configured, I checked the Viera link in the APP and get a message, VIERA LINK NOT AVAILABLE.

VIERA LINK IN THE SETUP IS ON, MY PVR IS SET TO DIGITAL.

I USE A Tosling cable from tv to PVR due to Pvr does not support ARC

So what is wrong with my setting. Tia

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OK guys found it, my HDMI control was OFF in my AVR, activated and Viera link is available.

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I'm not sure what you're asking. Each individual pattern consists of one color.


Statistically, how do you justify choosing such a small and unusual sample set?

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Statistically, how do you justify choosing such a small and unusual sample set?
Color tracking is standard 25, 50, 75, & 100% saturations. Color Checker is built into ChromaPure 3.x. What more do you need? I could do thousands of colors with LightSpace but it would only verify what I already know.

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