Originally Posted by turnne1
agreed...you can spend $3500 on a TV and $500 ( or less) on a sound system......as an example
I have not heard a modern receiver that could meet my requirements in my main HT area...therefore I run separates and have for many years
I can see the difference in my samsung E8000 vs the VT60/F8500
I can also hear the difference in the Anthem statement and my Onkyo pre/pro
though as a compromise in quality covering the most bases and no major flaws..I am good with the mix of A/V gear I have right now
Like I said earlier..until the F8500/VT60 come down to the current pricing of the outgoing 2012 models...I wont be making any TV moves...unless I am going to drop $4K in new audio gear the same day
As an audiophile that has spent a ton more on my audio / home theater audio system as I did on my VT60, i don't really agree with all your points. I think it is funny how you will drop a lot on audio and consider that worth it but not in getting the VT60 over the ST60. Obviously you value audio over video but believe many will spend the difference to get a slight improvement in video. It's the nature of both hobbies, you spend a lot more for smaller improvements. Still with you being an audiophile, you should agree it isn't hard for a AV system to do home theater while it is another story to replicate great 2 channel music.
With saying the above, I find a lot more enjoyment with video as compared to critical 2 channel audio. After a lot of years & tons of money (Aerial Acoustic speakers, separate amps, AV processor), i come to find out no amount can compare to live well music, that which is well played. My daughter is at the highest level on the piano which we have a very good one. Sorry but i don't care if you have a billion dollars, I have yet to hear a system that sounds like the real thing. Yes, my system is very good with being able to hear treble decay and layering of music but still is not like live music. I have spent a lot of time and know audiophiles, some that is, will disagree. Still I have heard $100k plus systems that sound great but sorry, not as good as a great live concert in a venue that provides great acoustics.
With all this being said, paying the difference for the VT60 seems like a small price for the same type of money needed to be spent to get the same highend audio percent improvement. It is a video hobby so to me, it is the video that is most important since again it doesn't take a ton of money to get very goof home theater sound. This has been said way back during the early years of home theater. The improvements in black level, motion handling and other positives to me easily makes the price difference over the ST60 easily worth it. Now I might think a lot harder for the money difference to get the ZT60 but can understand the folks that want that bit of improvement (if in a brighter room the reviews say the ZT60 hold black level better....not saying it is brighter but hold better blacks due to improved filter....both displays equal in a dark viewing environment even though to me the VT60 has better built in speakers....yes, to me this is a big thing since i have folks in my house that have no desire to turn my AV system on for normal viewing. The VT30 I had which died had speakers that truly sucked, VT60 is actually has decent sound, at least very good for an HDTV flat panel).
To each his own I guess.