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I need a new TV on a budget. $650 is about what I can spend. I would prefer a plasma and have found these two at my price. Which one is better?

I was about to re order the E530, which I had for a few days but had to return due to damage, when I saw the F5300 at the same price, is that a better TV? I don't know much about Plasmas
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See my thoughts in the F5500 thread.

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Thanks. Based on that thread and that amazon review, I guess the F5300 is the way to go?
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How about Panasonic TC-P50S60? Is that a better option for picture quality (dim room application)? Please comment. Thank you!
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How about Panasonic TC-P50S60? Is that a better option for picture quality (dim room application)? Please comment. Thank you!

When I saw them side by side in my Bestbuy, the S60 looked a lot better to my eyes. Go see them in the store and judge for yourself. The F5300 looked to have worse blacks than my 7 year old plasma. I also was not a fan of the pentile display on the F5300.

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Does the 5300 have a channel guide for OTA?
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Hello everyone! I too am considering the PN51F5300 but there is very little information on it (I'm assuming because it is so new). Does anyone actually own this TV? How does it compare to the S60 Panasonic Plasma? I have a 42" Panasonic Plasma from around 3 or so years ago and I love it but am wanting to go bigger. I'm feeling like the S60 would be better, but I'm concerned about the lack of anti-glare filter (which my current Panasonic Plasma does have). Is the S60 really so much better for 1" less size, $50 more money, and lack of anti-glare filter?

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I went to BestBuy to look at S60. The whites where yellow and the colors where too saturated. All the TVs in BB had colors too saturated. There was no remote so I was unable to play with it.

They matched Amazon so my total price with the taxes was what I would pay at Amazon. I pulled the trigger.

The PQ is great. Lack of anti-glare does not bother me for my particular setting. I did not buy it for the features but I am blown away that it is plug and play for Netflix and my NAS. We watch our recorded movies and photographs. It is few clicks away.

The only thing I do not like is the automatic contrast adjustment which senses ambient light. It is too aggressive that it is not usable in my setting.
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I went to BestBuy to look at S60. The whites where yellow and the colors where too saturated. All the TVs in BB had colors too saturated. There was no remote so I was unable to play with it.

They matched Amazon so my total price with the taxes was what I would pay at Amazon. I pulled the trigger.

The PQ is great. Lack of anti-glare does not bother me for my particular setting. I did not buy it for the features but I am blown away that it is plug and play for Netflix and my NAS. We watch our recorded movies and photographs. It is few clicks away.

The only thing I do not like is the automatic contrast adjustment which senses ambient light. It is too aggressive that it is not usable in my setting.

It sounds like looking around at forums that there is a feature on the S60 called CATs that you can turn off. I know my S1 Panasonic Plasma from a couple years ago has this and once I turned it off it didn't automatically adjust the brightness.
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Thank you. Yes, it can be turned off. It would be nice if there is setting which would adjust the effect.

(There is little bit of a buzzing noise which can be heard when the volume is muted. )

It is a wonderful TV, my 1st plasma, and I highly recommend it.
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Just wanted to let anyone who might be interested know that I ended up going for the Samsung PN51F5300 over the Panasonic 50" S60. They both looked roughly equivalent in the store and figured I'd start out with the one that was 1" bigger and $50 cheaper and if I had problems then return it and get the S60. It doesn't look like there is much of any anti-glare filter on the F5300, but the S60 doesn't have one either.

I have to say, when the room is dark the picture is amazing! We watched Star Trek (2009) on Bluray the night we got it and were blown away! It was like we were at the theater it was so big in comparison to our old 42"!

However, the reflections are pretty noticeable during the day since we have it in our living room and only have thin curtains over our big front window. I'm trying to determine if they bother me or not, however getting the S60 wouldn't help much since it also doesn't have an anti-glare filter unless it ended up being much brighter than the F5300. And even then it is really only the dark areas/scenes that are affected by the reflections so being brighter I don't think would really help anyways.

If I thought I could get a LCD/LED with a fast response time (to avoid ghosting and motion blur) and good quality picture for the same $650 range I might consider going that route instead since this is our main TV and will not only be watching at night, but it appears that to get a good quality LCD/LED you really have to go up and above $1,000. There was still a good amount of reflections on our old 42" plasma despite having an anti-glare filter (glass is glass after all) so the difference here mainly appears to be the reflections are roughly the same just less diffused.

I've got 15 days to return it so I'll keep evaluating it during that time.
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How is it going?

Pougan,
Did you keep it? Is it still good choice after more than 1 year of use?
Did you get used to the reflection?
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good info,They both looked roughly equivalent in the store and figured I'd start out with the one that was 1" bigger and $50 cheaper and if I had problems then return it and get the S60. It doesn't look like there is much of any anti-glare filter on the F5300,[IMG]http://*******/WNKpGN[/IMG] but the S60 doesn't have one either.thanks
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Pougan,
Did you keep it? Is it still good choice after more than 1 year of use?
Did you get used to the reflection?
Yes! I have been extremely happy with it.

The reflections are still noticeable on a bright day with a dark scene, or if you just so happen to be at the right angle to catch a lamp reflection, but we got some heavy curtains that we close if we know we will be watching or playing something dark and I just turn on/off lamps as needed if I notice a reflection. Its really not that big a deal and is well worth the fantastic blacks and colors.

Without having the S60 I can't say how the blacks compare, but they are definitely blacker than my 4 or 5 year old 42" Panasonic (though the black are still great on that). This TV is still going strong and still looks great!

I've also heard of issues with some Panny's regarding game lag and do not have that problem at all with this TV.

The only grip I may have, which I can't actually tell if its just a trick of the eyes or if the TV is actually doing something weird, and nobody else notices it so it may just be my eyes playing tricks on me, but in very dark, still scenes, there are times were very slight motion in said scene causes a strange wobble or like motion wave effect. A great example of the kind of scene I'm talking about would be an actor's face framed at night lit by maybe a fire or something like that. And they are giving a monologue of some sort and occasionally moves their head slightly to the side or up or down for emphasis. In these scenes I will see a wobble or sort of motion wave which I can't explain. Imagine their face being made of an almost ridged jell-o, a very slight wobble. I believe I noticed it in
when zoomed in on gandalf's face and he's talking and moving his head side to side and up and down, specifically towards the end of the scene maybe around 2 minutes in to the linked video. I have no idea if its the TV or me but I never noticed that before on the 42" Panny or in the movie theater and I don't notice it in any other situation. Perhaps its just an optical illusion due to the very deep blacks but I'm unsure. We are also typically watching these sort of movies with all the lights off so that could exacerbate the illusion if it is one. Has anyone else ever experienced this? Its hard to really gauge cause I don't always notice it. I might just be crazy
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