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The picture of that windbag does look good.

Just enough color saturation. I don't like high color saturation.
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I'm getting some, I want to call it banding (not sure), where in color gradients it is not a smooth transition from one to the next.

Do I turn down brightness or contrast to help that? I did the WOW disk.

or am I just going to need a full cal to fix or have to deal with it?
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The default color setting of 50 for this display seems to work well for transfer curves that average 2.2 or a little lower (using APL patterns). For gamma closer to 2.4 (and BT.1886) 55-58 has yielded the best overall averages for large test sets.
My calibration has Color at 59 and Flesh Tone at 10. Average dE: 1.19, max: 2.92[5B], worst 10%: 2.20. Average Gamma 2.32

Are these considered good figures? I was surprised at how increasing Flesh Tone so much improved things.

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My calibration has Color at 59 and Flesh Tone at 10. Average dE: 1.19, max: 2.92[5B], worst 10%: 2.20. Average Gamma 2.32

Are these considered good figures? I was surprised at how increasing Flesh Tone so much improved things.
yes, those are good figures. The CCSG set contains a large concentration of colors in typical flesh tones.
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Flesh tones to such an extreme is a good thing? Seems odd.
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I actually cranked my up a couple days ago too, but I haven't busted out the meter to see what it actually changes. it looked like the shadows on ppl's faces had a green tint to them. turning up flesh tone helped remove this. I actually thought it looked good maxed out, but I'm so skeptical of adjusting it 'by eye' so I left it at 10. which still seems really high for a setting I'm not sure what it's doing, haha.

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From the owners manual about Flesh Tone Setting: Adjusts the amount of red in skin-color tones

So by increasing Flesh Tone, you are adding more red to anything with a skin color.
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You do realize that its adding red to everything with red in it. It doesn't know skin tone from firetruck.

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I actually cranked my up a couple days ago too, but I haven't busted out the meter to see what it actually changes. it looked like the shadows on ppl's faces had a green tint to them. turning up flesh tone helped remove this. I actually thought it looked good maxed out, but I'm so skeptical of adjusting it 'by eye' so I left it at 10. which still seems really high for a setting I'm not sure what it's doing, haha.
What I found useful for setting this control was to increment it in steps of 2 and run the 24 pt. skin tone patches in HCFR to evaluate. The setting that produced the minimum error for that series also produced the minimum error for the larger CCSG series.
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What I found useful for setting this control was to increment it in steps of 2 and run the 24 pt. skin tone patches in HCFR to evaluate. The setting that produced the minimum error for that series also produced the minimum error for the larger CCSG series.
That's basically what I did

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You do realize that its adding red to everything with red in it. It doesn't know skin tone from firetruck.
I'm not sure about that. Should be easy to test. As I remember it mainly affects the skin tone patches.

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I'm not sure about that. Should be easy to test. As I remember it mainly affects the skin tone patches.
Just seems odd to mess with that control...especially hard over like that when my errors are already within a reasonable range without it.
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I'm getting some, I want to call it banding (not sure), where in color gradients it is not a smooth transition from one to the next.

Do I turn down brightness or contrast to help that? I did the WOW disk.

or am I just going to need a full cal to fix or have to deal with it?
The banding is probably inherent to the source. Even some of the best Blu-rays exhibit color banding in some scenes.
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From the owners manual about Flesh Tone Setting: Adjusts the amount of red in skin-color tones

So by increasing Flesh Tone, you are adding more red to anything with a skin color.
i can clearly see the difference(adding red) to faces. what i meant was, i don't know what it's doing to everything else. red was one color that never seemed to line up well for me. this could be helping i guess.

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for anybody curious about input lag times relative to the picture modes, i did a new test and posted my results here: Official Samsung PNxxF8500 Owners Thread (No Street Price Talk)

long story short, it appears that game mode and pc are basically the same for input lag now, and still a SIGNIFICANT improvement over 'movie' mode.

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