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Since I have a new plasma and I have to wait to get it professionally calibrated, is it best to use a config from this thread, or just run the Disney WOW and calibrate it that way?
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Watch at ~23 Min in is where the modes are described....
That's a pretty darn light description/explanation. I guess I will have to get some different patterns and do my own testing.
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That's a pretty darn light description/explanation. I guess I will have to get some different patterns and do my own testing.

They don't really go into detail, just what they do
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Seems more like what someone thinks they do.
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Seems more like what someone thinks they do.

Well since he was able to prove it with his test patterns not sure how much "thinking" is needed. There was a consensus agreement between the calibrators there were there of which to use when.
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Since I have a new plasma and I have to wait to get it professionally calibrated, is it best to use a config from this thread, or just run the Disney WOW and calibrate it that way?
either works.


what I've done is plug in a config from this thread and used that as my starting point. adjusting things like brightness/contrast/tint/color are easy to do with a test disc, so I would always adjust those after. but doing a 10pt color is not possible without a meter, so I plugged in those values, and then loaded up a greyscale ramp. if it looks smooth, you're done. when I did, I noticed some green tint partway through, so I went back into the 10pt calibration and 'fiddled' with the values until it blended in. definitely not ideal, but I assume if the other 9pts lined up, I'm still better off than using the default values. warm2 is WAY off, and warm1 is a touch blue.

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either works.


what I've done is plug in a config from this thread and used that as my starting point. adjusting things like brightness/contrast/tint/color are easy to do with a test disc, so I would always adjust those after. but doing a 10pt color is not possible without a meter, so I plugged in those values, and then loaded up a greyscale ramp. if it looks smooth, you're done. when I did, I noticed some green tint partway through, so I went back into the 10pt calibration and 'fiddled' with the values until it blended in. definitely not ideal, but I assume if the other 9pts lined up, I'm still better off than using the default values. warm2 is WAY off, and warm1 is a touch blue.
Okay sounds good. Who's did you start with? I was going to try MightMouseusf. I figure I should take down my default settings first though because I am sure I will screw it all up.
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Okay sounds good. Who's did you start with? I was going to try MightMouseusf. I figure I should take down my default settings first though because I am sure I will screw it all up.
I honestly don't remember, it was so long ago.


you can reset to defaults easily through the menu, but if you've made any changes before hand, it might be useful to have a record of those settings.


also, note that in the menu you can select an option that says something like 'apply settings to all inputs'. I would recommend you do this, input those settings, then turn that off. that way you can make changes to you second input for gaming without affecting the first input for movies.

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I am a new member here and read most of the post in this thread for calibration of the 8500. I have a new 51" model and have tried a few of the suggested settings. I like Pi's the most but can not find his latest/final settings that he posted. If they are are still available can someone post them.
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I have a question in regards to contrast, I noticed that most posting in this thread set contrast around the mid 90's but I find that very bright with cell set around 16. Will lowering contrast between 80 and 85 maintain impact overall calibration?
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I've found changing basic functions like contrast and cell light changes the white balance on my set.
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I have a question in regards to contrast, I noticed that most posting in this thread set contrast around the mid 90's but I find that very bright with cell set around 16. Will lowering contrast between 80 and 85 maintain impact overall calibration?

The experts (of which I am not one) have said that the contrast should be 95 and exactly 95, and then lower the cell light to taste.


Apparently, if you are above or below contrast 95, it will throw of one or more of the 10 pt, and you won't be able to get the grey scale correct.
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The experts (of which I am not one) have said that the contrast should be 95 and exactly 95, and then lower the cell light to taste.

Apparently, if you are above or below contrast 95, it will throw of one or more of the 10 pt, and you won't be able to get the grey scale correct.
Others have said you shouldn't reduce the cell light from 20 and should use the contrast. link
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as far as I know, BOTH are true.


lowering cell light is bad because it increases ABL...
lowering contrast is bad because it shifts the 10pt color calibration...


I decided to turn eco mode to low, does the trick for me. but I'm willing to bet that there's also a reason why one should never do this... it really feels like that's is no good way to adjust the peak brightness of a Samsung plasma??

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as far as I know, BOTH are true.


lowering cell light is bad because it increases ABL...
lowering contrast is bad because it shifts the 10pt color calibration...


I decided to turn eco mode to low, does the trick for me. but I'm willing to bet that there's also a reason why one should never do this... it really feels like that's is no good way to adjust the peak brightness of a Samsung plasma??
I put a dimmable 6500K bias light behind my 64" and left the Cell Light at 20 & the contrast at 95. Problem solved.
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I put a dimmable 6500K bias light behind my 64" and left the Cell Light at 20 & the contrast at 95. Problem solved.
depends on what your problem is I guess. I don't like seeing my room around the tv, so for me, that's like washing the dirt off my car with dog poop, haha. I'd consider it a step backwards to add more light to my room, I've already painted all the walls around the tv black, and even after that i'm considering velvet.

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I put a dimmable 6500K bias light behind my 64" and left the Cell Light at 20 & the contrast at 95. Problem solved.
I use no bias light, contrast at 95, cell light at 20, in a dark room. Perfect.

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I use no bias light, contrast at 95, cell light at 20, in a dark room. Perfect.
Perceptually, mine is a little bright in the dark. I haven't metered it yet. However, the bigger reason for the bias light is minimizing the visibility of the black glow.
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I have not calibrated mine yet, but I have 95 contrast and 20 sell light also. So far I love the picture.

I am hoping to give Disney WOW a run this weekend.
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Perceptually, mine is a little bright in the dark. I haven't metered it yet. However, the bigger reason for the bias light is minimizing the visibility of the black glow.
I agree. Bias lights will reduce the plasma glow. It will give the appearance of deeper blacks.

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Where can I get the Service Manual ?

I'm having a hard time to get blue and gamma values calibrated.

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Hard time on gamma and colors.

I'm using "auto-calibration", but not getting better results so far.
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Figured what was wrong, much better now.
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