Originally Posted by hdqboss
After following this thread (and other threads on this forum) for the last few months as well as reading the reviews on cnet, VE and other sites I thought i wanted the ZT60. I have been anxiously waiting for my local BB to get one in to look at it and compare to the F8500 just to be sure. BB finally got it in yesterday so I went there last night to look at it. After a lengthy discussion with 3 BB employees including a manager regarding a) whether they actually had one b) whether it could be opened and displayed before 6/9 and c) whether they would set it up now I finally got to see it right below a F8500. Much to my dismay the picture on the F8500 was much sharper. We played with the settings on both to try and get a comparable picture but the F8500 continued to sharper, more detailed and the whites much whiter. The whites on the ZT60 looked gray. Unfortunately both TVs were coax to the BB in house feed so I could not test any BDs. According to the sales associate the F8500 had been on display for two months and the ZT60 was literally just out of the box. So now I am more confused then ever as to which one to buy.
This is the first year competition between the 2 have been so close and it really is a hard year to make a decision. You honestly cannot go wrong with either and lucky to be in the position to own either. Not many can drop 3.3k-4.1k on a TV. For that alone I feel fortunate though in the end it will really come down to your viewing habits and what aspects of picture are important to you.
Myself I do some watching in the day and in that case a 8500 is a damn fine option, though the majority of my watching is at night in a dim room with some biased lighting. If I did more daytime watching and if I watched a lot of 3D I would have gotten the 8500 no questions asked. At the same time I also value blacks more then a super bright picture because I know how bright my previous displays were I know brightness won't bother me. Even though it is almost splitting hairs in black levels there is enough difference for me personally.
As for the sharpness thing. The panny seems sharp to me. I really do not know what peopel are talking about when they say the panny isn't sharp. I personally believe and so do some others think the sammy is doing some type of edge enhancement in how they drive the image. Which is fine by all means but that is just preference. As for white. The only thing I can say would be if you didn't see the 8500 next to the panny and you just saw the panny would the white be white? if so then it's not the color of white just the brightness of it. Example. If I hold my Galaxy S4 which is white next to a white screen like my laptop, which looks whiter. The brighter image. Turn of laptop screen, my phone is the new bright white. It doesn't make one any less white.
I personally love my ZT but I'm not going to scoff at the 8500 by any means because I have every intention of buying one this year. As well as keeping my ZT, and 500M. The VT30 gots to go though. I don't love it anymore
In the end Determine your viewing habits, and what is more important to you. Blacks, Brightness, Price, etc etc