Originally Posted by Los Angeles to just indicate again what i was saying, the available professional settings do not allow the zt60 to increase sharpness, because the digital processing going on in the zt60 brings in data processing artifacts.
sure you can bring up the sharpness control but it wont get the job done as far as being comparable to the f8500. ( try a darblet on the zt60 maybe, as i did) . the color calibration and white point settings of the zt60 will not remove the green tinge. i have no axe to grind with anyone, just stating the facts of what i observed both in the store and in my home. if someone wants the best blacks and wants to sacrifice a sharp crisp tight picture, and occasionally observe green where it's not supposed to be, and hear a fan, then they should get the zt60. if they want a brighter image that still holds good black level specifications, and has slightly better whites, a tight image that has no softening, without fan noise then the f8500 is best. thats what the thread is about right? giving input on what someone likes and has experience with. if someone else has an experience with both of these then by all means report your opinion! but DEFINITELY these are way different panels. so if everyone can refrain from retaliation for my experience that would be great! it's the holiday season.
Data processing artifacts in the ZT60??? Now I know it's time to move on to another topic. If anything, there's something going on with the F8500 as all video ouput looks the same as if all content was intended to look like an HD video show. I couldn't quite put my finger on it at first but then it hit me while channel surfing that every damn channel looked the same! It was completely artifical looking. So, I threw in a blu ray or two...voila, it's doing it again! Then, I remembered something...I remembered when I took my Arcam DV139 DVD player (you can google it to read its stellar reviews) to Best Buy to evaulate how well upconverted 1080p content looked on a larger screen size (besides, the majority of the movies I watch are documentaries & foreign films), the F8500 was brighter, with what always appeared to be an artificially sharper picture. By the way, the Arcam was connected to the VT60, ZT60, F8500 & a Sharp Elite. All of which displayed what they were feed in a more natural, film-like way.
Now, there were things I really, really liked about the F8500 but that homogoneous video look (likely due to some sort of sharpness processing or edge enhancement that adversely affects image depth) and that excessive brightness for the sake of brightness output, I would have absolutely kept the F8500. If Samsung implements meaningful upgrades to the G8500, I would definitely buy it. In the meantime, I'm having fun playing around with the VT60 & ZT60. Oh, and I do find the ZT60 bright enough even when using THX Cinema or D-Nice's settings (Professional 1) in the daytime. However, I own the 60ZT60 and it seems
to be slightly brighter and sharper/crisper than the 65" models I remember seeing. That was one of the reasons I opted for the 60" size. But, I coulda been imagining things...