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My current plasma, a Samsung pn50c550 has vertical lines in it after 2 years and Best Buy is going to replace it. The guy in the store recommended the Panasonic p50st60 ($999.99). Plasma tv buying guide highly recommends the p50gt50 ($1099.99). I am looking for some advice, what would you go with and why? Is there a comparable Samsung or is Panasonic the way to go? I'd like to stay with a plasma over an lcd.

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There are a nuber of threads recently and I think even one on this very comparison (GT50 vs ST60)....The reason most would choose the ST60 is taht it has been getting great reviews and has been measured to perform almost on par with last years flagship the VT50......Samsung has the F5500 but that is an unkown as it hasnt been pro calibrated and believe would be a level below matching closer to the S60, but adding 3D.....Personally I would go see both sets and shoose which one you like the best. If it were me Id probably go for the ST60 due to its reported performance.

Here are three theads that have discussed this very comparison within the last week or so take a look at the posts in there and you should have a better idea on what people here think is the one to go with.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1468719/panasonic-gt50-vs-st60

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1468217/buy-new-p65st60-or-find-sale-on-p65gt50

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1467809/panny-65st60-v-65gt50
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My current plasma, a Samsung pn50c550 has vertical lines in it after 2 years and Best Buy is going to replace it. The guy in the store recommended the Panasonic p50st60 ($999.99). Plasma tv buying guide highly recommends the p50gt50 ($1099.99). I am looking for some advice, what would you go with and why? Is there a comparable Samsung or is Panasonic the way to go? I'd like to stay with a plasma over an lcd. Thanks for the help!

The new ST60 beats last year's GT50 in every picture quality category so do not get the GT50. And this is coming from a fairly happy GT50 owner wink.gif

The only comparable Samsung to the ST60 is the F8500 but it's twice the price as the ST60.
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I was going to get the GT50 swapped out for my Samsung Plasma through Best Buy. At the last minute I changed my mind and went with the ST60. Couldn't be happier. I haven't read one thing yet that puts the GT50 above the ST60 as far as picture quality and that was after spending lots of time reading through the GT50 thread.

The only thing I would say the GT50 has over the ST60 is probably a more premium look to it since it is metal and not plastic.
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...The only thing I would say the GT50 has over the ST60 is probably a more premium look to it since it is metal and not plastic.

What do you mean by "metal and not plastic"? What does that refer to?

The only ST60s i've seen are mounted so high up on the walls at my two local BB stores that i can't even reach the bottom of the TVs, much less get a good look at them to examine the build quality.
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I think it's a reference to the bezel trim on both sets. That said, is the bezel trim on the GT50 real? To me it looked more like a brushed finish vs a glossy finish on what appeared to be silver plastic on both. Regardless of it it was metal, I'm not sure most people could tell a difference at a normal viewing distance. It's not like the ST60 is gaudy by any means.

To the OP - take the other posters word for it - the 2013 ST is an improvement over the 2012GT, and in your case, the GT50 would cost more. Personally, I wouldn't even consider the GT50 unless it cost significantly less than the new models. That said, as supply of the 2012s dissapears, most retailers are not marking them down much, if at all.
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What do you mean by "metal and not plastic"? What does that refer to?

The only ST60s i've seen are mounted so high up on the walls at my two local BB stores that i can't even reach the bottom of the TVs, much less get a good look at them to examine the build quality.
The Bezel is kind of a shiny cheap plastic with a terrible glare. Guessing that is one way they kept the price down. I believe the GT50 bezel was of much better qualtiy. I am guessing that added to the price of the TV.
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If it bothers you enough, it should be a relatively easy and inexpensive modification to mask it off. Personally, I've seen both in the same room, and yes, the GT50s are more understated with their trim but at a normal viewing distance, neither of them is that distracting. Would I prefer not be there at all? Probably, but it really didn't bother me that much.
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The bezel isn't a distraction. I have it in a room that has lights in front of and above it. In my opinion, it makes the bezel appear thinner because of this, as stupid as it sounds, it kind of masks the bezel like the Alien cloaks himself in Predator.

It's all I have. I know.

Honestly, If you watch it with the lights off, it's a non issue.
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Thanks for the replies!
Does anyone have an opinion about the Samsung 5500 series? I see there is no pro reviews out there. I have read one thread in this forum.
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I picked up the P50ST60 on Friday.
BestBuy matched the price of the Samsung ($850) and refunded me $94 of the $220 I paid for the protection plan.
So the Panasonic and a 4 year protection plan cost me $116. I'm very happy!
I'm using the settings found here with the contrast at 45 and the brightness at -1. I am not doing the slides;

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1466472/2013-panasonic-settings-issues-thread

Does anyone have any other settings or will these work?

Thanks for the help everyone!
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I prefer D-Nice's settings, some prefer the CNET settings. Try both.
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I'm using the settings found here with the contrast at 45 and the brightness at -1. I am not doing the slides;

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1466472/2013-panasonic-settings-issues-thread

Does anyone have any other settings or will these work?
For my 60ST60, I'm using these D-Nice settings also, modified with Contrast at 66, Color at 40, Gamma at 2.0. Also, I have the HDMI input I use set to HDMI content type = Graphics.

I've tried Katzmaier's Cnet settings also, and I like them a little better, but with many modifications. Generally, I find that I need to adjust downward the Contrast and Color settings that others use.

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