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I'm not a big display guy, so I haven't kept up with the market. But I just checked, and my Panny pro monitor is 6 years old now. smile.gif

I don't care about 3D, don't care about "smart" stuff, don't care about internet connectivity. I just care about image quality for BD/DVD and satellite. Black level, contrast ratio, color accuracy, that sort of thing.

If I wanted the best video quality with price as an important but 2ndary factor, without the stuff I don't want or need, what would people recommend?

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I'm not a big display guy, so I haven't kept up with the market. But I just checked, and my Panny pro monitor is 6 years old now. smile.gif

I don't care about 3D, don't care about "smart" stuff, don't care about internet connectivity. I just care about image quality for BD/DVD and satellite. Black level, contrast ratio, color accuracy, that sort of thing.

If I wanted the best video quality with price as an important but 2ndary factor, without the stuff I don't want or need, what would people recommend?

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I have the same need for a new Panasonic plasma, and have a bright room. What are my best options for 2012 or 2013 models ?
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For a brighter room I would recomrnend a st60 if you are looking at pannys

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The best PQ of any 55" Panasonic would be the VT60 series, closely followed by the ST60 series.

All of the best TVs will automatically be 3D capable and as such they have the better panels, so just ignore the 3D feature and smart features if they don't interest you.

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You have exactly the same requirements as I do so I'll be watching this thread closely biggrin.gif
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The best PQ of any 55" Panasonic would be the VT60 series, closely followed by the ST60 series.

All of the best TVs will automatically be 3D capable and as such they have the better panels, so just ignore the 3D feature and smart features if they don't interest you.


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I assume you'll be using this television simply for viewing? If that is the case then the Panasonic ST60 is a great choice. However, if you plan on doing some gaming then I suggest you look elsewhere since it's said to have bad input lag.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-P55ST60-55-Inch-Includes-Glasses/dp/B00AVRJK76/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367533634&sr=8-1&keywords=panasonic+st60

Or you can pay a little more for a 60 inch:

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-P60ST60-60-Inch-Includes-Glasses/dp/B00AVRJK4Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1367533651&sr=8-2&keywords=panasonic+st60

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That's definitely a nice tv but is the topic creator willing to spend that much for it?

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-TC-P55VT60-55-Inch-Includes-Glasses/dp/B00BC4SJEC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1367535499&sr=8-2&keywords=panasonic+vt60

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Look at the S64, what is your viewing environment bright or dim ?

I'd say it's on the dim side. Still the S64?

Yeah, the 55VT60 is a little pricy. I suppose I'm interested in value too, bang for the buck kind of thing. smile.gif OK, then the ST looks good. I guess I need to understand the differences between the S64 and ST60 then.

No gaming, at least that I can foresee.

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I'd say it's on the dim side. Still the S64?

Yeah, the 55VT60 is a little pricy. I suppose I'm interested in value too, bang for the buck kind of thing. smile.gif OK, then the ST looks good. I guess I need to understand the differences between the S64 and ST60 then.

No gaming, at least that I can foresee.

Then in that case you can't go wrong with the ST60. If I wasn't a gamer and simply used my television for watching movies or television then that would be my choice.

Here you can see the comparisons between the S64 and ST60. The S64 is more of a barebones tv while the ST60 has an infinite black pro panel that should help with the glare and overall picture quality:

http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-50PS64

http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P55ST60

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Then in that case you can't go wrong with the ST60. If I wasn't a gamer and simply used my television for watching movies or television then that would be my choice.

Here you can see the comparisons between the S64 and ST60. The S64 is more of a barebones tv while the ST60 has an infinite black pro panel that should help with the glare and overall picture quality:

http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-50PS64

http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P55ST60

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Just received the Panny 55ST60. GF saw it and thought it looked better than my legendary Pioneer Kuro FD60. I have to admit, it looks pretty darned good with minimal tweaking. Has picture technology improved that much in 6 years?
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Just received the Panny 55ST60. GF saw it and thought it looked better than my legendary Pioneer Kuro FD60. I have to admit, it looks pretty darned good with minimal tweaking. Has picture technology improved that much in 6 years?

Yes it has. The mid-level ST60 gets fairly close to Kuro quality PQ and the higher models get even closer - almost reference.

LCD has improved a lot too in 6 years but with a few exceptions (Sony, Elite, etc) LCD seems to be backsliding as they do away with backlit CFL and backlit Full Array displays and focusing more on buggy Edge-Lit LED to save manufacturing costs - and picture quality is taking some hits compared to a year or two ago.

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http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-50PS64

I haven't found a place where you can actually buy the 50PS64 yet...

Hoping it'll show up soon because 65" is kinda overkill for my viewing distance.
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Costco has the 50PS64 for $699 and they included 2 year warranty. I just picked up one tonight
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I've been thinking of going LCD, my 8 yr old Panny 50" put's off alot of heat and uses alot of juice, been a great tv but like the wifi and app's builtin, do any plasma's have wifi?
2005 I was all over the latest tech here, but have lost interest on the latest and greatest
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Modern smart plasmas are the same as smart LCDs/LEDs, aside from better picture quality.
They produce less heat but more than LED-LCD.
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I'm not a big display guy either. In fact, I really don't see that great of a difference in picture quality between my current five year old Panny TH-50PZ85U and the new VT and even the ZT series. I was ready to pull the trigger on a 65ZT60 ($4,000) but after demoing a unit, I just cannot justify it to myself. For me to spend that much for an upgrade, I need to be wowed by the image resolution and that's just not happening with the new Pannys.

I do like the Sony Ultra HD (4K), I wish Panasonic would release something in the 4K resolution.
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You're not going to see a 4K plasma below 70 inches in my opinion (pixel pitch too small, 42" 1080p is smallest pitch so far) and the market is too small to justify it.
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Now that there is more experience with all models, I would like to hear more comments from users with outiside light in the viewing room.
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For me outside light is not a big issue unless your watching off angle, then for sure you are going to get some glare.

Then again, if I'm watching off angle, in the middle of the day, I'm doing any 'critical' watching anyway...

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Then again, if I'm watching off angle, in the middle of the day, I'm [not?] doing any 'critical' watching anyway...

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I'm also in the market for a 55" HDTV. I'm interested in the Panasonic VT60 or ST60 . My concern is burn-in with theses channels that have logos , like popular News Channels. Aside from that, the specs look great on both of these models.
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I'm also in the market for a 55" HDTV. I'm interested in the Panasonic VT60 or ST60 . My concern is burn-in with theses channels that have logos , like popular News Channels. Aside from that, the specs look great on both of these models.

Permanent Burn In seems to be very rare. Temporary Image Retention is more common - and it usually goes away very quickly for most of us (as it does on all four of my Panasonic Plasmas) and my TV is tuned to news channels for probably 4-5 hours every day (split between morning and evening). I also watch hours and hours of Speed Channel every weekend and the IR from FoxSports/Speed logo in the upper right corner goes away within several seconds after changing to another channel. Some panels do seem to be more prone to IR than others based on reports from some owners. I've installed over a dozen Plasmas for other people and know even more that have Plasmas, and while i do see temporary IR on some that i visit i can't remember ever seeing or hearing about any permanent Burn-In, and i'd surely hear about it if they had it.

The only way to know for sure if you get a TV with a panel that is either prone to IR or resistant to IR is to buy it from a company with a good return policy then put a lot of hours on it during the first few weeks and monitor any IR you may get. It gets much more blown out of proportion on forums than it is in real life.

But here's something to think about - since all the channels i watch have a logo in the lower right (ans sometimes also the left) corners, i don't really care if they cause Burn-In since there's always a logo there anyway - and the bright logo is more distracting than the ghostly after-image of the logo that remains on the screen. I tend to look at the center of my screen and try not to look at the corners and not obsess about the logos, so even if i had IR my eyes don't gravitate toward those areas anyway.

I'd much rather have logo Burn-In on a Plasma than the flashlighting, poor screen uniformity, light bleed, poor off-angle viewing, bluish whites, poor black levels, and blown-out whites you'll get with even the best LCD TVs.

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4 month old thread, but for the record, the S64 is not made in a 55. Only 50 and 65.

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