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anybody know if the sanus VMPL3B is compatible with the 60ZT60? they show the low profile mount as the LL22. I went back and searched for the suggested mount for my current Sammy 58C8000 and its the L22. Does that mean my VMPL3B will work with the 60ZT60?

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So I was thinking, what should I expect upon first power up? Are there any things I should know before my delivery on Sat? I was thinking specifically for picture settings. I am only running one HDMI into tv from denon 3313, all components run into receiver. Just looking for insightful information, sorry if I come off as giddy! biggrin.gifcool.gif

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So I was thinking, what should I expect upon first power up? Are there any things I should know before my delivery on Sat? I was thinking specifically for picture settings. I am only running one HDMI into tv from denon 3313, all components run into receiver. Just looking for insightful information, sorry if I come off as giddy! biggrin.gifcool.gif

Upon first powering up the unit you'll see the words "Studio Master Panel" and then I think it goes into the set up wizard. Mine was broken in by the dealer using slides for 300 hours then D-Nice calibrated it so I wasn't the first to power it up out of the box.

If you're not going to do panel prep, slides etc. for the first 300 or so hours or a pro calibration, I'd recommend simply using only the THX or cinema picture mode presets with full screen content (or zoomed) for at least the first 100 hours (more if you can do it).

Who wouldn't be giddy? If I had the extra scratch I'd buy another one and I don't even have any use for a second TV. Good luck with yours, hopefully you'll love it as much as most of us here love ours.
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I asked about this on another thread, but who is d-nice?

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Oh, and what kind of slides are you using? any recommendations?

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Oh, and what kind of slides are you using? any recommendations?
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1466472/2013-panasonic-settings-issues-thread

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I asked about this on another thread, but who is d-nice?
D-Nice is a well known professional calibrator who is also active here at AVS. Over the past several years he has done a calibration on new models that he is interested in. He follows a procedure getting these sets ready to calibrate. When the procedure is completed, he calibrates the set and posts those settings for others to use. He makes it clear that if you follow his procedure and then use his settings, you will not have a calibrated set, but you will have a good starting point. Using settings from calibration work done on another set, even the same model, is not the same as having your set calibrated by a talented professional.

You can read "customer reports" about D-Nice's work, and other professionals who are active at AVS, by using the link in the signature area at the bottom of my post. Go to post number two for flat panel (plasma and LCD) displays.
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I use my computer, iPad or smart phone to browse the Internet, watch YouTube, etc. To date, I have yet to see a TV-based internet browser that is anything close to usable.

I did mess around with the browser a bit though. The menu said the help page (where I would normally look to for an answer to your question) for the type of browser used with the ZT--"TVs w/o a Home button in the browser"--is under construction and wasn't available.

I really don't want to use the TV's browser, but wouldn't mind full screen image of what's on my laptop or a web site. Are Apple TV & Chromecast the primary options for wireless broadcast of content from either the web or the laptop's drive?

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I asked about this on another thread, but who is d-nice?

D-Nice is another professional calibrator who does excellent work. I couldn’t ask for a better picture than my ISF day/night modes that were dialed in by him.
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I really don't want to use the TV's browser, but wouldn't mind full screen image of what's on my laptop or a web site. Are Apple TV & Chromecast the primary options for wireless broadcast of content from either the web or the laptop's drive?

Thanks,

The only reason I want to use the browser full screen is because in going to http://youtube.com/leanback you can remote control Youtube with your phone. The app on the phone has more options and the ability to shift back/forward in time with great ease where the YouTube app is just a pita.

Can someone check to see if they can do fullscreen =)
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anybody know if the sanus VMPL3B is compatible with the 60ZT60? they show the low profile mount as the LL22. I went back and searched for the suggested mount for my current Sammy 58C8000 and its the L22. Does that mean my VMPL3B will work with the 60ZT60?

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See my thread here. It is compatible but I found I had to slightly modify it to suit my tastes.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1492644/a-wall-mount-is-a-wall-mount-is-a-wall-mount#post_23856669

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It's been a long wait but my new ZT60 should be here between 12-3pm tomorrow. It's my first plasma ever and I'm super excited. Anyway I digest…..Was wondering if has anyone tried this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlzN3voxAXA method of breaking in a new plasma?

 

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Was wondering if has anyone tried this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlzN3voxAXA method of breaking in a new plasma?
Any full screen content will do, though those patterns have a lot of black and favor the center screen.

Congrats in advance on your new TV. Enjoy.
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Good points, Thx :) 

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One suggestion might be to turn video processing features off in the preamp & let that occur at the monitor. Wasn't huge, but seemed to improve pic on comcast sports over directtv.

Some processors allow customized settings for your inputs, so perhaps adjusting per input over time makes sense.

Of course this could be my perception & others with more tech knowledge will offer other suggestions.

Enjoy the Panny.
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Hello to all ... I'm considering a 60" ZT to replace my current Panasonic TC-P54G25.

I'm feeling a bit 'out of the loop' on current plasmas. I'm also hesitant, since it's tough to enjoy my G25 as much anymore due to its rising and floating black levels. I could be extra-sensitive to those problems, but they annoy me terribly.

I'm hoping to confirm that Panasonic's current plasmas, the ZT series in particular, have eliminated the rising/floating black problem? Is this still a concern with Panasonic plasmas? Aside from the fan noise, are there any other known concerns with ZT?

If it has any bearing, the set will be used in a controlled-lighting room, and will be on approx. 60-65 hours per week (I mention this because G25's blacks got worse with more hours logged on the set).

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Hello I am considering the 65 inch panel. I wanted to know from owners if the have been having the image retention that was an issue on other models that I have been reading about. It is going to replace my elite pro 70 inch set. Also is the picture that much better the the Elite or is it just preference of the person viewing it. The only thing that seems go concern me is that Panasonic is leaving the plasma market and will it be leaving me like my Sharp elite no updates on firmware or support because it no longer manufactured. Thanks.
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Hey ZT owners, I also want to become a ZT owner.

Could anyone comment how their ZT sets compare to your 60 inch Kuros. I know there are professional comparison reviews but nothing beats actual owners of both panels giving their feedback what they like or don't like about the 2 different panels.

Thanks and have a great day.
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So this was here when I got off of work today! It is number A05408
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i'm assuming this is the european version of your ZT60 :

http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/tvs/panasonic-tx-p60zt65-review-50011762/

in the list of bad points ... some motion issues !

i recall the fun days i had with the 65VT50. Could put out a great picture but motion on blu-rays was terrible. blur, judder, dynamic false contouring. all showed up to the party.

now that i've got rid of that thing, and some would call me crazy, i'm tempted by the ZT range. simply because there doesn't seem to be anything else better out there.

how are peoples experiences with blu-ray ? of particular interest, on an HTPC.

i know blu-rays are 24fps and will never be butter smooth. and that's fine. on my LCOS projector, i can live with the blur. it's tolerable. but that VT50 was this close to putting me in a rubber room ! i ended up hating it !!!

so i don't want to make the same mistake again smile.gif

it would certainly help me decide so i'd appreciate any feedback. thanks.
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So what is the number range to look out for as far as the fan noise issue goes? Also, after the set has been on for awhile, is it going to have an IR image once you power off the set?

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Just got my zt60. How will I know if the foam fix has been applied? It has a June production date and I can see some grey foam around the fans inside but there is still a fan hum noise happening.
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Just got my zt60. How will I know if the foam fix has been applied? It has a June production date and I can see some grey foam around the fans inside but there is still a fan hum noise happening.
I don't have a zt60 but I would assume you can tell if the fan is noisy by listening to it. It shouldn't matter if the factory 'fix' has been applied or not.
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i'm assuming this is the european version of your ZT60 :

http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/tvs/panasonic-tx-p60zt65-review-50011762/

in the list of bad points ... some motion issues !

i recall the fun days i had with the 65VT50. Could put out a great picture but motion on blu-rays was terrible. blur, judder, dynamic false contouring. all showed up to the party.

now that i've got rid of that thing, and some would call me crazy, i'm tempted by the ZT range. simply because there doesn't seem to be anything else better out there.

how are peoples experiences with blu-ray ? of particular interest, on an HTPC.

i know blu-rays are 24fps and will never be butter smooth. and that's fine. on my LCOS projector, i can live with the blur. it's tolerable. but that VT50 was this close to putting me in a rubber room ! i ended up hating it !!!

so i don't want to make the same mistake again smile.gif

it would certainly help me decide so i’d appreciate any feedback. thanks.

I also own a VT30 that showed the traits you said you saw on your VT50. In my opinion, based on my experience with my ZT so far, it handle 1080P/24Hz much better using 96Hz mode. I haven’t even tried the 60Hz mode because to me the slight “judder” I occasionally see is completely tolerable. In fact, I personally hardly notice it especially compared to my VT30 which looked better in 60Hz mode but even then I saw a little judder and some stutter on panning shots. On the VT30 I had to use the motion smoother in the weak setting to help with the judder but that feature also made false contouring worse. On my ZT I do not use motion smoother and I’m very satisfied with 1080P/24Hz material. Far more than I ever was with the VT30 and I haven’t seen any false contouring (so far) thankfully. I LOVE this television’s performance. Easily better in every important way than my VT30.
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So this was here when I got off of work today! It is number A05408
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Nice looking set up. Hope you enjoy your ZT’s performance as much as I enjoy mine. Good luck.
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For anyone with Dish Network, what gamma setting are you using, and for which picture mode? I know that calibrating for "TV" is somewhat futile, given the variances between channels, shows, and even cameras (jeez FOX football looked horrible on the ZT for the studio and "line of scrimmage" cameras, vs. the "player close ups/on-field"...Standard def.?), but I'm having trouble with some black crush on most all stations, and older movies just look washed out and blurry, when compared to my Panny 700U. I "fiddled" with settings in the service menu with the 700U, but the ZT's menu is much deeper.

Also, It seems like most earlier posted settings are using 2.4 as it is actually closer to 2.2 however there also may have been a firmware update since then. Is anyone with the "current" (as of this week) firmware running a 2.2 gamma?

I'm hoping that a professional calibration can be done using the HDNET Test/Calibration patterns they used to broadcast to somehow find a happy medium...I need to find a way to perform a backup from my DVR'd copy
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Hey ZT owners, I also want to become a ZT owner.

Could anyone comment how their ZT sets compare to your 60 inch Kuros. I know there are professional comparison reviews but nothing beats actual owners of both panels giving their feedback what they like or don't like about the 2 different panels.

Thanks and have a great day.
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I also own a VT30 that showed the traits you said you saw on your VT50. In my opinion, based on my experience with my ZT so far, it handle 1080P/24Hz much better using 96Hz mode. I haven’t even tried the 60Hz mode because to me the slight “judder” I occasionally see is completely tolerable. In fact, I personally hardly notice it especially compared to my VT30 which looked better in 60Hz mode but even then I saw a little judder and some stutter on panning shots. On the VT30 I had to use the motion smoother in the weak setting to help with the judder but that feature also made false contouring worse. On my ZT I do not use motion smoother and I’m very satisfied with 1080P/24Hz material. Far more than I ever was with the VT30 and I haven’t seen any false contouring (so far) thankfully. I LOVE this television’s performance. Easily better in every important way than my VT30.

Let me preface by saying that for the time being I am using the Sound and Vision settings with the motion smoother turned off on my ZT60 and am very happy with the picture quality. that being said, the motion judder on the test scene material on the Spears and Munsel calibration disc is awful though I have yet to notice it in real time on movies (Iron Man 3).

Of course it could be something the BluRay player is doing wrong. I'm currently using a Panasonic DMP-BD89.
I'll have to check the settings when I get home and edit my post so that others can comment specifically - any advice would be helpful.

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I just got a new 65" ZT and the picture, in daylight, is a bit dim. I tried turning up the Brightness level but it doesn't seem to "stick" once I hit return even though the newly selected level remains on the slide chart. How do I get the picture to actually get brighter?

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