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The 64" F8500 is just under $3k at Amazon today. I hope "new condition" is what you expect it to be.
Yep, but I wasn't sure about the merchant Video & Audio center, who was selling the tv at that price. In fact, I tried to call them several times, no one answered. They list free shipping, but don't explain what that means.

At least Paul's TV will bring the TV inside and make sure it turns on. I called them about the meaning of open box new condition. They said this means sometimes people return a tv that was never delivered, returned while in transit. Since a third party delivery company had the tv in their possession, pauls tv has to open the box just to make sure no physical damage. Also, they may open a box from time to time to inspect inventory. If their store has an open box, it wouldn't be listed as new condition.

In any case, I'll find out soon enough. One of the first things to check is number of hours used on the tv.
Sounds like a good deal with due diligence. Enjoy. smile.gif
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Do your really mean the LCD F8000, or do you mean the Samsung PN64F8500 plasma?

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Do your really mean the LCD F8000, or do you mean the Samsung PN64F8500 plasma?

PN64F8000 - great TV and very close to ZT & VT by every reviewer
... but still a LCD display. That's not exactly a viable alternative for someone who prefers plasma, bought the best plasma on the market, and now needs a replacement. confused.gif
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FWIW, I just got back from BBuy...60ZT60 going for lowest price BBuy ever listed (sale price that is), whereas it seems like the 65 is going for full price. Supposedly there are only (9) left...local store is getting one in.

Can you please tell us what the BBuy 60ZT60 was going for? I hve my queued up for shipping from Amazon and would love a price adjustment smile.gif
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Can you please tell us what the BBuy 60ZT60 was going for? I hve my queued up for shipping from Amazon and would love a price adjustment smile.gif

$2299.00 in Dallas area.
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$2299.00 in Dallas area.

same price. thanks for quick reply.
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be sure you're using ARC-compatible input/output. You should have Viera Connect activated in the Panasonic's Apps page, with audio output set to "Home Theater", & HDMI Control engaged on your AVR.

I could never get ARC to work. Handshake issues or something--the TV kept defaulting back to TV audio--so I just gave up.

Could the handshaking problem be due to your receiver? Which receiver are you using?
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Can you please tell us what the BBuy 60ZT60 was going for? I hve my queued up for shipping from Amazon and would love a price adjustment smile.gif

I thought price talk was disallowed outside of the "deals" threads...but it was a large bill less than the "Dallas area". May change tomorrow, as they do on Sundays. FWIW, that Dallas price has been in T.
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This is what I wanted to know. You can compare the native ZT app to Roku going into HDMI. I found the picture very sharp once it hit 1080P. Like you said, not always achievable on wifi. It usually ramps up. Mine was dancing around 480, 720p, and 1080P. I have not ventured into the pro controls of any inputs or pic modes yet.


FWIW, I was messing around with the wireless again today, and set the ZT's wireless connection to my 2.4gHz b/g/n network, from the 5gHz a/n, and it streamed in "SuperHD/1080p" in less than a minute via the native Netflix app...and it was persistent at 1080p. Just prior, on the 5gHz band, the connection never came off of 480p. I'll check to see if there is something which needs to be changed on the router, as both APs are on the same router (Netgear Nighthawk).
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I thought price talk was disallowed outside of the "deals" threads...but it was a large bill less than the "Dallas area". May change tomorrow, as they do on Sundays. FWIW, that Dallas price has been in T.

Sorry about that. Perhaps you could PM me what "but it was a large bill less than the Dallas area" means. I don't know what T. is either.
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Large bill = $100 US. No clue what T means either.

Here's a link to the ZT deals thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1473440/panasonic-zt60-deals
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Sorry about that. Perhaps you could PM me what "but it was a large bill less than the Dallas area" means. I don't know what T. is either.

Sorry 'bout "T"...new laptop fat-finger. Meant to say, "that Dallas area price has been in effect all month at BBuy".
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Thanks - I looked on their website and that was the range for the middle line of both - that was the CalMAN 5 ($299) http://store.spectracal.com/calman5/licenses and the meter Dispaly 1Pro ($249)

they also had a system for $ 149 http://store.spectracal.com/consumer/c3.html

definitely something to consider!

You will also need to factor in the cost of a pattern generator for the automatic calibration feature.
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Oh no - another one!

Did you have service done on your set? Does it look like the bezel was incorrectly reinstalled in the region of the cracks?
Just to calm the sense of hysteria brooding in this post. His is one of the original 4 accounts of microfracturing already reported.
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Thanks Axxion. I plan to go the pro route eventually too. A man's got to know his limitations. Why buy a super expensive chisel made out of the finest steel, then not bother to sharpen it to perfection, right? Panny should have included in-home calibration with the price, then I'd have no reason to go on these boards.
Panasonic already gave you the best panel money can buy...and at a much better price point than the biggest competition was ever able to do (Pioneer), so I doubt they could justify throwing in such a costly service after bleeding billions.
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I saw that guy in Captain Phillips as the seal commander. Very versatile guy, robot pilot one day, seal commander the next day.
Check out the serial action/drama The Unit where he plays a member of a special ops team. smile.gif
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PN64F8000 - great TV and very close to ZT & VT by every reviewer

no such TV, theres a 64F8500 and the 65F8000 LCD. Most plasma fans don't want an LCD, and certainly not that one.

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HELP! So, I was one of the lucky ones with the micro-fracture cracking. I had submitted the issue to Panasonic last Friday. I just spoke with them. They do not have any replacement TVs, so they are sending a refund check to one of service centers, who will pick up the TV and give me the check. Unfortunately, I already sold my old TV. Any advice would be appreciated.

Should I try to hunt down another ZT? Go for a VT or the Samsung?

This is a rather important little tidbit, and is somewhat concerning, because it kind of echoes something I was thinking about earlier today when I was looking at my ZT60... And that is, that if the ZT's panel is BONDED to the front glass, I wonder if a simple panel replacement has been or was EVER considered a possibility, or if it basically requires replacement of the entire set no matter what. Obviously, the TV would have come apart around the display module or the display module would have to essentially pull forward and out of the case somehow because the bonded front glass extends beyond the PDP's dimensions and is permanently attached to it.
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$2299.00 in Dallas area.

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Large bill = $100 US. No clue what T means either.

Here's a link to the ZT deals thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1473440/panasonic-zt60-deals

I think 2199 has always been the lowest it ever went, but it did go there once before.
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I'm getting my TV this coming week from Panasonic.com. Can't wait. I got the 800U I believe in 2007-08 and it has lasted me all these years and still running great. Going to give it to my little sister and her family. I'm sad that Panasonic stopped making Plasma TVs cause I don't think I'll ever buy a Samsung or LG. Only manufacturers of TVs that have lasted me a long time has been Sony and Panasonic. I hope OLED makes it big because that is the only TV tech that I'm looking forward to buying in the future.
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... but still a LCD display. That's not exactly a viable alternative for someone who prefers plasma, bought the best plasma on the market, and now needs a replacement. confused.gif

My Apologies got the letters & size right but # wrong - naturally I meant the PN64F8500 (plasma) & not UN65F8000 (LCD)

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So far the only thing I have to get used to is the chrome bezel which reflects some of my ceiling lights. I haven't really tried testing how prone the set is to IR yet, but that will be the deciding factor as to whether I keep it or not. If its more than acceptable (the pio was great at avoiding that), i'm all in on this set as the larger screen is much more immersive. Overall very happy especially at the price. It should hold me over until OLED 4k at 70" is under $3k (if that ever happens).

The reflections in the chrome bezel are also my only issue, i'm thinking of blacking it out with some black electrical tape. Much easier than moving two pot lights. wink.gif black chrome would have looked awesome from the factory and mostly eliminated the issue.

On a side note, I am curious as to why nobody mentions a PS3 for Bluray, 3D Bluray, Netflix and media sharing playback... it does it all pretty well as far as I can tell and they are pretty inexpensive these days...
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The reflections in the chrome bezel are also my only issue, i'm thinking of blacking it out with some black electrical tape. Much easier than moving two pot lights. wink.gif black chrome would have looked awesome from the factory and mostly eliminated the issue.

On a side note, I am curious as to why nobody mentions a PS3 for Bluray, 3D Bluray, Netflix and media sharing playback... it does it all pretty well as far as I can tell and they are pretty inexpensive these days...

I'm using a PS3 for the few Blue Rays that I have. However I picked up a Roku 3...find it easier to navigate menus, and searching for movies (power searches all its channels from one search vs. someone opening each channel and searching).
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Hi new owner here and wondering how do I check how many hours are on the TV?

Thanks in advance.
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... I haven't really tried testing how prone the set is to IR yet, but that will be the deciding factor as to whether I keep it or not. If its more than acceptable (the pio was great at avoiding that), i'm all in on this set as the larger screen is much more immersive....

Haven't tested mine (and won't, at least not intentionally), but from some of the posts in this and other forums, the ZT is quite prone to IR, especially if one uses it for gaming.
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no such TV, theres a 64F8500 and the 65F8000 LCD. Most plasma fans don't want an LCD, and certainly not that one.

There is such a TV, it's a EU model of the F8000. It's basically the F8000 LED panel on the F8500 stand. Looks cool. I'm not sure about the 64" though. I thought the EU LED models were 65" also.
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PN64F8000 - great TV and very close to ZT & VT by every reviewer

I owned the F8000 for quite a while and although it's a fantastic and aesthetically beautiful TV, if you're used to ZT PQ and get the F8000 as a replacement I can't say you will be satisfied. The most striking feature on the F8000 is the bezel. Watching that TV with the lights on is like looking at a floating image, something I really miss with the ZT. I'm sure it has been said before but if you must get a replacement for the ZT look into the PN64F8500 plasma or VT series. I don't think you will be satisfied with LED flashlighting or off angle viewing after getting used to perfect panel uniformity plasma offers!

I've actually been looking around for open box deals and sales on the F8000. The TV is a good performer and would look great hanging on the wall in our bright office.
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seems when i use the receivers remote to turn the tv on it switches from Home Theater to TV? Never an issue if I use the ZT remote - will stay on Home Theater
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Could the handshaking problem be due to your receiver? Which receiver are you using?
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There is such a TV, it's a EU model of the F8000. It's basically the F8000 LED panel on the F8500 stand. Looks cool. I'm not sure about the 64" though. I thought the EU LED models were 65" also.
I owned the F8000 for quite a while and although it's a fantastic and aesthetically beautiful TV, if you're used to ZT PQ and get the F8000 as a replacement I can't say you will be satisfied. The most striking feature on the F8000 is the bezel. Watching that TV with the lights on is like looking at a floating image, something I really miss with the ZT. I'm sure it has been said before but if you must get a replacement for the ZT look into the PN64F8500 plasma or VT series. I don't think you will be satisfied with LED flashlighting or off angle viewing after getting used to perfect panel uniformity plasma offers!

I've actually been looking around for open box deals and sales on the F8000. The TV is a good performer and would look great hanging on the wall in our bright office.

My apologies - to err is human to forgive is divine - You are 100% correct - meant to say PN64F8500 plasma - not 8000 LED which is 65"

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