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Originally Posted by SeLfMaDe111985
Agreed. Afterr viewing Avatar on the ZT60 at BB then see in it at home (yes I was wrong all along) it was practically identical BUT you can see where the gapless design and the filter becomes slightly superior on the ZT.
I unhooked my TV completely let it reset then replugfed it back in. Used my fathers Samsung blu ray player and popped in Avatar...the scene I watched at BB that had my jaw on the floor was the space scene in the beginning of Avatar where he introduces the planet...it literally looked like half the screen was painted with ink. It was noooice!! So me thinking that everything is wrong on my VT...ready!!! Was wrong. After hooking up the Sammy blu ray player (Black Friday deal for 50$ from 130$ I think) to my VT60...boom saw exactly what I saw at BB on their 65zt60. I can't remember if the ZT was 96hz at 24p but it was set to THX Cinema without adjusting anything so I reset THX Cin on my VT60 to match the ZT settings and Walah! Those nice inky blacks I saw at BB are now in my home but on my VT!!! Thank god it was the source. So now time to pick up a great blu rAy player but obviously at a cheaper price. Idk maybe my PS3 slim is buggy but it doesn't do what I just saw.
Also the "line issue I was having on the left side of the screen is now practically gone. I also changed my HDMI cable I think the Monoprice one might be the only defective thing I have now.
Anyway I also switched to THX bright on the ZT and black were still incredible...did that on the VT still very inky.
I am now a very very happy man. No more hassle now just time to enjoy. And I do believe if the VT was made gapless and kept the same filter it would exhibit the same results. With the lights dim they are the same with the VT being a little brighter and exhibiting a slight but more detail IMO because at times I felt the ZT was too dark so I can see where the man cave comes in handy big time as well as moderate lighting. Do they have the same blacks?? I would technically say no but the ZT is only a hair better IMO and I believe a lot obviously has to do with the gapless design and filter on the ZT. But also with great advances comes some risks and if rather keep my VT than chance the ZT especially if it's used. And a new one would be great but not at the premium crazy pricing it has now. And if I did do that I would lose out on Amazon giving me a crazy discount making my (when ordered) NIB 65VT60 from 2200$ bargain price then with the price match down to 1999$ and partial refund..brings it to a total of 1699$. So I guess I really should app complaining when I got the 65" for the same price the 55" was when it was on sale.
Overall yes I wouldn't mind those extremely dark blacks but at times, for me, found it too dark in some areas. VT60 is now IMO the perfect balance for those who like a little bit brighter picture with extremely great black levels, and great everything else. I look at the Vt60 as either on par with a 5020 or just slightly above it.
That gapless is quite amazing (no Seperation or fracture btw on the ZT best buy had) you can see where OLED is truly going to shine but honestly I would take a ZT over an OLED anyday. Just something about plasma.
So my sincerest apologies to everyone. And thank you.
Now time for a blu ray player suggestion...heard the Sonys are great. I'm not looking for anything crazy pricey but reasonable yet great. (Have got to pic up Gravity!!)
Also how come with the Sammy blu ray it won't allow me to change from 60hz to 96hz (which I also forgot to mention I am only in 60hz right now and I know
96hz gets a little darker black level. Also the player doesn't seem to be doing 24p either. Still looks great but idk why maybe it doesn't support it.
In all honesty, you really need some intervention that you cannot get by posting senseless stuff over and over again. This hobby is not healthy for you, and AVS is not a good outlet. I think I speak for many people here, so PLEASE STOP THE MADNESS already.
Sorry, back to whose got the best black levels and the least amount of panel gaps
Main HT Room: Panny TC-P65VT60 (calibrated by Chad B), Denon AVR-4311, Comcast X1 DVR, Apple TV3, Sony BDP-S5100, Speakers: Ascend Acoustics Sierra Towers, Sierra Horizon and HTM-200SE, Dual Power Sound Audio XV15 Subwoofers
Basement HT Room: Panny TC-P58V10 (Black Level Restored!), Denon AVR-E300, Comcast X1 STB, Sony BDP-S590, Speakers: Wave Crest Audio HVL-1 (L/C/R), Pioneer SP-BS 22 (Surr) and Dual Power Sound Audio XV15 Subwoofers