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I'm a happy ZT owner here smile.gif

However, whenever I try to search for reviews on ISF calibrated ZT panels by the top calibration gurus I come up empty in my search. Theres plenty of other great reviews of other panels just not an ISF night/day locked calibrated ZT.

Could someone point me in the right direction. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Maybe there is only a small number of ISF calibrated panels out there and they are not posting because they are enjoying their awesome displays?

I hope I'm wrong?


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Yes of course, but I'm asking if anyone actually noticed a positive benefit. Because a lot of people talk about these settings as if they are a better starting point than the default THX Cinema mode and I would characterize it more like a different but not necessarily better starting point.

For me, I prefer sillysallies settings since they are close to THX Cinema and I can enable the pixel orbitor.
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For those who have used settings from D-Nice, Cnet, or Sound & Vision. Could you actually tell the difference in color fidelity compared to THX Cinema? I'm just not convinced that you can really tell whether someone else's settings are making your set more or less accurate, particularly when Cnet and S&V's settings are so different. That's why I sort of settled on either leaving everything on default (apart from brightness and contrast) or getting a professional calibration.
I have CNET on 1 prof setting and dnice on the other. I much prefer the dnice to either CNET or THX Cinema.
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On my 60ZT60 I rotate between THX Cinema and Sammies (Pro1). I finally inputed the S&V (Pro2) settings and they are really good. Mr. Sillys settings are on my 55VT60 which are really good with Color gamut Native.


TC-P60ZT60 - Living Room

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When people talk about plugging in other peoples calibrated settings i get a headache. Makes me want to play in downtown 5pm traffic. Whatever. Plecebo effect FTW
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Yeah I like Dnices so far. I am doing a side by side with my pro calibrated kuro. Looks spot on. Enjoying it a lot smile.gif
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Love D-Nice's night settings, they look great. But soon I'll have D-nice's real calibration as he is coming to calibrate my ZT60 in March!! I'm so hyped about it!!

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141fd top
65zt60 bottom

From the pic is what I am seeing with my naked eye.

Beautiful shadow detail. smile.gif

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Is the 141FD set behind the ZT? Because the 65" seems like 100".
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Love D-Nice's night settings, they look great. But soon I'll have D-nice's real calibration as he is coming to calibrate my ZT60 in March!! I'm so hyped about it!!

Good to hear! If he says, "there is nothing to adjust, you already entered my settings" be sure to let everyone know.

Seriously though, I'm glad you are doing this. I think it would be a good example if you could post the before and after results (not settings) from your calibration to give folks an idea of just how far off (or how close) they were for you. And you will have the benefit of hearing first hand from him why he doesn't want people sharing his settings. The information and education the calibrator provides is worth the fee even without adjustments made, at least in my opinion. Peace of mind versus stress and worry from reading this thread.
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I have CNET on 1 prof setting and dnice on the other. I much prefer the dnice to either CNET or THX Cinema.

I found D-Nice settings a good starting point as well. Better than THX Cinema. I changed the gamma to 2.2 and made some color tweaks and it looks great. 2.4 was just too dark overall for my ZT in my environment.
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Is the 141FD set behind the ZT? Because the 65" seems like 100".

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Pick her up yesterday from Chris Cleveland plasma. The guy is great to deal with. No nosense kind of guy but the same time very caring for his customers and his service. Will buy from again no doubt!

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I'm a happy ZT owner here smile.gif

However, whenever I try to search for reviews on ISF calibrated ZT panels by the top calibration gurus I come up empty in my search. Theres plenty of other great reviews of other panels just not an ISF night/day locked calibrated ZT.

Could someone point me in the right direction. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Maybe there is only a small number of ISF calibrated panels out there and they are not posting because they are enjoying their awesome displays?

I hope I'm wrong?


Thanks
You can read AVS member's calibration comments by going to "post #2 of 822" after using the link in the signature area at the bottom of my post. Your hit will inch the thread a little bit towards 250,000 hits. A lot of AVS members are interested in what other members think of professional calibrations. wink.gif
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I would like to report that I am very happy with my ZT. Only 260 hours on the set. 
I might look into getting pro-calibration at some point, but I live in Michigan so I don't know a lot of good calibrators in the area......
As of now, I just use THX Cinema and I'm happy with it....!!!....


Just wanted to post to offset the negative press..... smile.gif

I'm another happy customer. I bought the 65" ZT last November when I heard that Panasonic was going out of the plasma business. It replaced a 50" Pioneer Kuro that I moved to my master bedroom. I love the ZT and will get it professionally calibrated sometime this spring/summer. I am yet to watch a 3D movie on it, but 2D programming is great. No complaints from me.

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141fd top
65zt60 bottom

From the pic is what I am seeing with my naked eye.

Beautiful shadow detail. smile.gif



The ZT60 looks to be zoomed in . Is that the case? Still looks great!
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The ZT60 looks to be zoomed in . Is that the case? Still looks great!

No zoom in. Look at the cut off of the image.

The detail of the fur really shows off the zt. I was able to see finer detail on tons of patterns through out the movie. Fur, scales, bumps, materials (leather, cottons) and walls. The detail on the fur is just one great example.
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141fd top
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From the pic is what I am seeing with my naked eye.

Beautiful shadow detail. smile.gif


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No zoom in. Look at the cut off of the image.

The detail of the fur really shows off the zt. I was able to see finer detail on tons of patterns through out the movie. Fur, scales, bumps, materials (leather, cottons) and walls. The detail on the fur is just one great example.




ok ,nice...


you can really see the difference in detail and shadows on the little robot to the bottom left when comparing the two pics.
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When people talk about plugging in other peoples calibrated settings i get a headache. Makes me want to play in downtown 5pm traffic. Whatever. Plecebo effect FTW

I don't think placebo is the right word here, but I get your point. Another persons' calibrated settings will likely provide a better image than the standard presets, but there is the possibility that they may not due to the purpose of calibrating in the first place. Dark room settings would be the most likely to produce good results as you would only have to contend with panel-to-panel manufacturing variances, which shouldn't be terrible.
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ok ,nice...


you can really see the difference in detail and shadows on the little robot to the bottom left when comparing the two pics.

True, but if the ZT is the darker of the two images, the camera would overexpose the Kuro image causing some of the lack of detail in that image. Not an ideal comparison, but the purple monster does seem to show a little more detail.

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No i haven't tried those settings, but I'm pretty happy with what I got so far, PQ is much better and exciting:

HDMI 1 is my roku 3 and dish hopper - THX cinema all default except contrast up to 80. Also I use darbee, helps a lot!

HDMI 2 my pc and consoles for gaming. I use THX bright mode with normal (vs warm) and game mode on. I also put that HDMI setting to graphics.. made a huge difference.

So far better than my GT50 with above settings
mo!

Well, I went back to no Darbee. Darbee does work, don't get me wrong, but for some reason occasionally it will turn the brightness up unless I turn the TV on and off again. Might need a firmware update or something. But the hassle of adding another device into the mix with another plug and another remote and the possibility that it will worsen the picture with this brightness thing I experienced was not worth it to me. So back to the closet it goes.

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True, but if the ZT is the darker of the two images, the camera would overexpose the Kuro image causing some of the lack of detail in that image. Not an ideal comparison, but the purple monster does seem to show a little more detail.

That is what I saw with my eye. Regardless of picture. With naked eye I could see more detail on ZT.
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141fd top
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From the pic is what I am seeing with my naked eye.

Beautiful shadow detail. smile.gif


it does appear the Panny is in a zoom mode and not in FULL or JUST......
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it does appear the Panny is in a zoom mode and not in FULL or JUST......

How does it appear that way?
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How does it appear that way?

it appears that way . I guess he saw what i did ..didnt notice that the end of the pic is cut off or not centered .
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it appears that way . I guess he saw what i did ..didnt notice that the end of the pic is cut off.

Oh ok. Guess I don't see it bc I know it's not.

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That is what I saw with my eye. Regardless of picture. With naked eye I could see more detail on ZT.
This was also true for me when comparing shadow detail and black levels between my 101fd and 65vt60. Shadow detail looked a little better on the vt since the Kuro seems to be crushing some detail from what I can see. Some people have suggested that it is just how the Kuros are or maybe it's in need of a new calibration.

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Oh ok. Guess I don't see it bc I know it's not.

Kuro: dot by dot
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Panny should be on full not just. Give full a try.

I can see the slight difference in the dark spot by the arm pit. Panny is alittle closer/off to the edge of the screen. While the kuro starts to touch it.
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Panny should be on full not just.
I can see the slight difference in the dark spot by the arm pit. Panny is alittle close to the edge of the screen.

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Panny should be on full not just. Give full a try.

I can see the slight difference in the dark spot by the arm pit. Panny is alittle closer/off to the edge of the screen. While the kuro starts to touch it.

Ok yeah full seems to be the native resolution. Thanks
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I've noticed that with a side-by-side comparison of the 60ZT60 & 60ST60, screen images seem larger on the ZT than the ST. It's almost like Overscan is on but is is not. But are in Full mode. I wonder if that has to do with the gapless screen. Also, with both connected to OTA's, I've also noticed that movie credits scroll faster on the ZT than the ST. Don't know if any of this means anything, just wanted to share some observations.
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