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Btw got my eyes and boy does it look great now. Much needed. Guess that solves the glow problem with the letterbox bars I had been seeing. Now I see Just typical normal glow that a high end plasma exhibits even non tweaked KUROS do this. Wasn't even the TV. Guess I should keep my health in order instead of the TV lol. I can now say the TV is tremendous all around. Just gotta get this damn buzz in order.
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Btw got my eyes and boy does it look great now. Much needed. Guess that solves the glow problem with the letterbox bars I had been seeing. Now I see Just typical normal glow that a high end plasma exhibits even non tweaked KUROS do this. Wasn't even the TV. Guess I should keep my health in order instead of the TV lol. I can now say the TV is tremendous all around. Just gotta get this damn buzz in order.
Are they sunglasses? That will always help with black levels and seeing a glow in a darkened room.
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What's that mean?

When you register your TV with SQ Trade, you have to provide the serial number for the TV. You can order the warranty through Costco online plus setup the warranty with SQ Trade online as well. Very simple process.
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From CNET referencing Sony 4K - "The company pitted its X950B, X900B and X850B televisions against its rivals"

“The X950B held up remarkably well against the ZT60”

http://www.cnet.com/news/hands-on-with-sonys-2014-4k-televisions/

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From CNET referencing Sony 4K - "The company pitted its X950B, X900B and X850B televisions against its rivals"

“The X950B held up remarkably well against the ZT60”

http://www.cnet.com/news/hands-on-with-sonys-2014-4k-televisions/

Eh, I don't doubt the 950 will have great black levels, but it is highly unlikely they will have done anything about poor viewing angles.
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When you register your TV with SQ Trade, you have to provide the serial number for the TV. You can order the warranty through Costco online plus setup the warranty with SQ Trade online as well. Very simple process.

Gotcha yea I did that before with SQtrade. I thought it was something different costco required or something. Thanks
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I use the "huff huff and wipe" method to clean the screen when it has been off for a while and is cold. Would this do any damage to the filter? Should I just wipe it with a dry micro and not use a huff method? Doesn't seem very easy to smudge the filter like the KUROS were. But just curious cause when I used to clean the 5020 screen I just wiped it gently
With a micro to take the dust off anything else i wouldn't touch because it seemed so easy to smudge or wipe the filter. Didn't know if this filter is just as delicate.
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From CNET referencing Sony 4K - "The company pitted its X950B, X900B and X850B televisions against its rivals"

“The X950B held up remarkably well against the ZT60”

http://www.cnet.com/news/hands-on-with-sonys-2014-4k-televisions/
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The X950B held up remarkably well against the ZT60 as it was able to get better white highlights than the now-discontinued plasma. Sony claims the TVs were set to their default cinema modes, but traces of motion compensation were visible on the Panasonic and we would have preferred to see it placed in THX mode instead, or calibrated would have been even better.

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Several people comment on the CNET that obviously SONY would do everything they can do to make their sets look best - Don't need a PhD. to figure that one out!!

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Bit like the people who thought the Kuro that Panasonic brought to put next to the ZT60 wasn't in the best of health?
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Bit like the people who thought the Kuro that Panasonic brought to put next to the ZT60 wasn't in the best of health?

As I always say "mother did everything she could not to raise an idiot" - This is not rocket science!

PS: Many people question if she succeeded!

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From CNET referencing Sony 4K - "The company pitted its X950B, X900B and X850B televisions against its rivals"

“The X950B held up remarkably well against the ZT60”

http://www.cnet.com/news/hands-on-with-sonys-2014-4k-televisions/

Personally, for 8,000$ that TV better be near the ZT60. An it still doesn't best it. ZT on sale was 2299$ for 60" and 2700$ for 65". Original retail was close to 4K$. So for 4000$ more you can get a 4K that still doesn't beat a 2013 1080P tv.

Sad that people would spend that much and get less. Mine as well find the last ZTs out there for that price range or just wait for if it ever even evolves for OLED
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It seems like whoever is comparing another display always does something to the ZT60 make it less than optimal - even Panasonic did this with their latest LED. lol

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It seems like whoever is comparing another display always does something to the ZT60 make it less than optimal - even Panasonic did this with their latest LED. lol

Well the point is to make sure your set tests and looks better right? It's not an unbiased presentation to begin with!
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Well the point is to make sure your set tests and looks better right? It's not an unbiased presentation to begin with!

Purpose is to sell the new product - any knows you don't say "Yes our new set is second best but since you can't buy the ZT buy mine" DA!!

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It seems like whoever is comparing another display always does something to the ZT60 make it less than optimal - even Panasonic did this with their latest LED. lol

So true. Similar to when Value Electronics hamstrung (unintentionally most likely) the brightness capability during the shootout, which it then went on to lose to the F8500 during the one year it was a factor. Then ironically the F8500 went on to get less bright after some firmware upgrades post shootout lol. Thankfully we have educated owners and calibrators to help guide us through retail/manufacturer mania.
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Let's see - Sony has an LED that equals one of the best plasmas made and blu-ray is taking them under, thus the shiny disks are to be no more. The only thing that I find harder to believe is that CNET published the comparison and Mark H. of AVS is giving Sony's excuse for crap earnings legs on this forum plus trying to sell streaming is of equal quality to physical media. Yes - I just saw a pig fly by my office window.

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Let's see - Sony has an LED that equals one of the best plasmas made and blu-ray is taking them under, thus the shiny disks are to be no more. The only thing that I find harder to believe is that CNET published the comparison and Mark H. of AVS is giving Sony's excuse for crap earnings legs on this forum plus trying to sell streaming is of equal quality to physical media. Yes - I just saw a pig fly by my office window.

Blu ray no more??? Wtf!! I hate streaming or downloading. I love my hard discs. And the new Sony LED does not equal the ZT60 it just held up to it pretty well and I'm sure the ZT had non calibrated settings or was purposely dialed. For 8000$ that's insufficient to me but who the hell am I to judge.
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I think we're getting ahead of ourselves here...Blu-ray hasn't been canceled yet. tongue.gif It should remain at the very least a niche for some time yet for Sony because of royalties alone.

Sony arranging this comparison leaves a lot to be desired, however.

$8000 is the SRP...I'm sure it will be selling for less but certainly not as low as $2700.
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So true. Similar to when Value Electronics hamstrung (unintentionally most likely) the brightness capability during the shootout, which it then went on to lose to the F8500 during the one year it was a factor. Then ironically the F8500 went on to get less bright after some firmware upgrades post shootout lol. Thankfully we have educated owners and calibrators to help guide us through retail/manufacturer mania.

Yea cause Samsung realized 80FL from a plasma is crazy high brightness and will ruin the life of the TV. The ZT with the F8500 having the new firmware can now reach 54 or 55fl with some Of Chad B. magic...which is right on the nose of the F8500 which I believe now has a peak brightness of close to like 56-60fl but I am not 100% certain what the fl on the f8500 is post cal.
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I think we're getting ahead of ourselves here...Blu-ray hasn't been canceled yet. tongue.gif It should remain at the very least a niche for some time yet for Sony because of royalties alone.

I'm buying all the way down wink.gif The new formats and increased resolution give me no pause, but the one thing that does nag at me is the rec2020 bit.... Must be careful or we'll get hit with double dips (realistically quadruple hits at this point).
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Anyway...back to the ZT.

How are you guys cleaning your panels? I use the "huff and wipe" method. Will this damage the filter or wipe it off by any means? I remember my 5020 being very delicate with the filter so I usually
Would just wipe it lightly to get the dust off.

Btw final decision has been made and I'm calling Panasonic tonight to deal with all this. I will no longer be posting about this unless it's an update from my fix. Otherwise
I am going to contribute more than complaints lol
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Clean, dry, lint-free cloth. If necessary use a very small amount of (ideally distilled) water. No cleaning products are needed.

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Btw final decision has been made and I'm calling Panasonic tonight to deal with all this. I will no longer be posting about this unless it's an update from my fix. Otherwise
I am going to contribute more than complaints lol
Uh-huh, like we haven't heard this one before. rolleyes.gif
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It seems like whoever is comparing another display always does something to the ZT60 make it less than optimal - even Panasonic did this with their latest LED. lol

Even so, I think this shows that most TVs made today are pretty good. For many people, an LCD is more practical than a plasma. I could live with one if I had to. Don't get me wrong, I love my ZT60 for movies and football. I even play games without IR issues.

I guess my point is we're a pretty picky bunch that has to have the best. That best is not a huge amount better than most quality TVs (Sony, Samsung and a few others).

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Even so, I think this shows that most TVs made today are pretty good. For many people, an LCD is more practical than a plasma. I could live with one if I had to. Don't get me wrong, I love my ZT60 for movies and football. I even play games without IR issues.

I guess my point is we're a pretty picky bunch that has to have the best. That best is not a huge amount better than most quality TVs (Sony, Samsung and a few others).

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As long as LED TVs have bad flashlighting, clouding and terrible viewing angles they will never be considered pretty good.
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Even so, I think this shows that most TVs made today are pretty good. For many people, an LCD is more practical than a plasma. I could live with one if I had to. Don't get me wrong, I love my ZT60 for movies and football. I even play games without IR issues.

I guess my point is we're a pretty picky bunch that has to have the best. That best is not a huge amount better than most quality TVs (Sony, Samsung and a few others).

Jim

I agree LEDs have improved, but I would say that is still depends on the eyes of the person/enthusiast as far as overall PQ. I consider the blacks on the VT/ZT60 to be notably better - overall - than the F8500. Yet, some will say there is no difference between them - probably the same types that are fine with LED and see no difference. I am making a generalization, but you hopefully see my point.

Eric makes a point above.

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Viewing angle is still an issue for LCDs but wouldn't be an issue for me. While I'm not a big fan of edge lighting, in practice it isn't too bad.

I'm really looking forward to seeing where they go with high dynamic range lighting. If that takes them back to LED backlighting with more zones, LCD could have a much higher contrast ratio.

Like 3D, I think 4K is a solution in search of a problem except maybe for large screen projection systems. It's a shame that 4K is a big part of why plasma is going away.

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Hey Guys I can really use some help here.
My Panasonic ZT60 weird Streaming Issue from PC and Thumb drive I just cant figure out ???
I am using Windows 8.1 and a Shared Video folder, it sees and can access the videos no problem
but if I try to play a video longer then like a few min it starts to play fine then Jumps to the next video after
a min or 45 sec ??

It will play short 3- 5 min videos completely, but a movie like an hour or longer and like I said it starts to play then
just moves to the next video in the list ??
I am completely miffed, I tried different video formats and still the same problem,

Well as it turns out I see even if I put a movie over 10 min on a USB stick it now does the same thing but stops or moves onto the next movie after 3 min??
This is very confusing ????
Any help or suggestion's would really be appreciated !
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Have you tried playing off the PC's hard drive from a shared folder there? Or maybe try to put the usb drive right into the tv. Also you can try a different media server program on the PC.
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