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Yep, set your player to output 1080P 24 at 4:4:4 and turn on 1080P Pure Direct on the ZT60. I also use 96hz on the "24P Direct in" setting in the ZT60 , as well as setting the Motion smoother to "weak" ........ blasphemy to some, but I like what it does at the weak setting ..... doesn't look soap opera-ish to me, still film-like yet smooths out some judder..... YMMV.

I may try out motion smoothing at some point down the road, but for now, still, no thanks! tongue.gif (Otherwise those are my settings too.)
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You are in luck. they have a couple of them here in town right now for SID. I don't have any experience with them yet where I could speak about the grid. I'm sure after I get one home I'll notice some imperfections though.

Here's some footage showing them at the event:

Do you know what model the LCD panel in the video is?
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I don't. I had the same question. I think it is the equivelent LG 4k LCD that I see at the stores. But then I think, "why would they sabotage their own LCD?". Of course one of the reasons could be its worth killing their own LCD if they can push OLED into mainstream that way.
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I don't. I had the same question. I think it is the equivelent LG 4k LCD that I see at the stores. But then I think, "why would they sabotage their own LCD?". Of course one of the reasons could be its worth killing their own LCD if they can push OLED into mainstream that way.

They probably see LCD and OLED buyers as different market sectors. I didn't think I would be considering an LCD until I saw the 800 series running Battlefield 4 at 4k res. Won't be too long before we know how an LG 4k OLED stacks up to Panasonics new top of the range panel in the real world. I appreciate the effort that they are both putting in to advance the quality of LED and OLED, given it seems so hard make a profit out of high end plasmas.

The section on AMOLED was interesting. My wife has just got a Samsung phone with an AMOLED screen and it's absolutely fantastic. Way better than any other smartphone screen I've seen. A TV with that tech could be awesome
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Hey guy... Have a problem... I have a Sony str840 avr.... Saw an update so updated... All was working well with my zt60 before update... But now after update I am getting no signal.... Thru oppo103d....I disconnected the cable box straight to TV works fine.... Can't get OPPO to play blu rays..... Please help..

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Hey guy... Have a problem... I have a Sony str840 avr.... Saw an update so updated... All was working well with my zt60 before update... But now after update I am getting no signal.... Thru oppo103d....I disconnected the cable box straight to TV works fine.... Can't get OPPO to play blu rays..... Please help..

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So, you did a fw update to your AVR, Oppo, and ZT60 at the same time?

Test your Oppo on another display AND straight to your TV.

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Hi all,

just a quick note: My Kuro is about to go 6ft under, and I've spent the entire weekend looking everywhere for a 65ZT (or Pro version equivalent) without any luck.

Do any of you know of someone or somewhere that may have one still laying around?

thanks in advance cool.gif

Should've bought one when you had the chance

ps: you that guy on Blu-ray.com who has the gallery with the two massive subwoofers? the names seem similar
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It's being discussed in other parts of the forum, but it should come as no surprise that edgelit 4K LCDs don't have a patch on Panasonic's final plasma (the LG OLED gets a few knocks because of its lower motion rez and grayscale uniformity deficiencies, but still comes away with second place). The ZT60 wins in yesterday's UK shootout:

Panasonic AX802 is Best 4K TV; ZT Plasma Pips LG OLED

When is the value electronics shoot out?
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When is the value electronics shoot out?

Last time I heard...sometime this month.
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If that means they can get more competition for the Shootout, I'm fine with that. Hope Panasonic provides an AX900.

Just won't be the same without a plasma division this year.
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do any of you notice any flicker on the ZT60 ?

I'm tempted with a ZT65 (UK version) - to replace my (too small) 42PF11 Pro plasma

I've not found anywhere local for a demo - but managed to get a demo of a VT65 - but was surprised to notice quite a bit of "flicker" on the demo film they were playing

is this inherent to the new tech within the current gen plasmas - or perhaps some demo quirk (lighting in store etc) - as even though my PF11 doesn't support funky 96hz rates etc, and plays 24p at 24hz - I've never noticed any flicker at all
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do any of you notice any flicker on the ZT60 ?

I'm tempted with a ZT65 (UK version) - to replace my (too small) 42PF11 Pro plasma

I've not found anywhere local for a demo - but managed to get a demo of a VT65 - but was surprised to notice quite a bit of "flicker" on the demo film they were playing

is this inherent to the new tech within the current gen plasmas - or perhaps some demo quirk (lighting in store etc) - as even though my PF11 doesn't support funky 96hz rates etc, and plays 24p at 24hz - I've never noticed any flicker at all

I saw a demo VT65 when I was deciding whether to buy the TX-P60ZT65B as the store did not want to unbox the one I eventually bought. The VT I saw didn't have any obvious flicker to my eyes in their dark demonstration room.
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do any of you notice any flicker on the ZT60 ?

I'm tempted with a ZT65 (UK version) - to replace my (too small) 42PF11 Pro plasma

I've not found anywhere local for a demo - but managed to get a demo of a VT65 - but was surprised to notice quite a bit of "flicker" on the demo film they were playing

is this inherent to the new tech within the current gen plasmas - or perhaps some demo quirk (lighting in store etc) - as even though my PF11 doesn't support funky 96hz rates etc, and plays 24p at 24hz - I've never noticed any flicker at all


Generally, the only time I see flickering on my 60ZT is when the refrigerator kicks on, and it's rare. I do see flickering while watching hockey games but it happens more on Comcast and Root Sports channels. During last night's 2nd game of the Stanley Cup playoffs, I had an occasional flicker but it wasn't enough to be distracting. Other than that, I haven't noticed any on other programming or on Blu Ray.


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Some people can see flicker on panasonic plasmas and I'm one of them. It's not really a problem. I don't really notice it anymore.
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Flicker seems to be one of the things I don't notice, except sometimes with 3D viewing. Blu-rays are fine at 96Hz. (US 65zt60) Otherwise, any flicker pretty sure has been source related (older films with various color or brightness fluctuations frame to frame).
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New owner of 60" ZT

My local hifi store still had a couple ZT60s left and I picked up one of them for a fair price

- The box was beat up with some of th Styrofoam cracked in half but the TV looks unscathed

- the build date is April 2013

- I noticed that I have a stuck green subpixel near the top left of the picture. Only noticeable with white or red backgrounds. I'm sitting about 7 feet away and I can't really notice it

I don't really know if I should raise a fuss about it. I ran the TV all weekend with some content and some slides and it seems ok. Still haven't tried the 3D mode.
Is there anybody here that has a stuck pixel but decided to stick with it? I'm not even sure if my dealer would do anything for me since this is one of the last few sets they have (they might have actually sold them all by now)

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warpdrive, I would try calling the local store to see if they would replace the TV with one of the other TVs. They might still have them left in stock. You won't know unless you ask. If they are still in stock but are reluctant to swap, offer to give them $50 to do the swap.
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Just to make sure it's not my imagination, for anyone who had the fan fix completed, have you noticed the backside becoming hotter to the touch? I can't say for sure, but now that the summer is here and the A/C is blaring and the prospect of skyrocketing energy costs are on the horizon, it's something I can't help but wonder about. Placing my hand on the panel encasement behind the circuit boards while the TV is running results in my hand reflexively responding to the heat (aye, it burns!) that is emanating. I hate to think how much energy is being lost to heat and how it may be affecting the lifespan of the components therein.
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This TV is warm but, as you noted, the heat is localized. I haven't checked it in a while but I don't recall feeling anything that hot. I'm sure it heats up the longer it's on and the harder it has to work. Overall it's cooler than my 50" Samsung.

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Yes, localized over the circuit board(s) and input module, but now you've got me in freakout mode. The level of Fahrenheit is great enough to not be able to rest my hand comfortably.. It has been running for hours on end lately...hope it doesn't meet an untimely, premature death with all this heat generation.
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warpdrive, I would try calling the local store to see if they would replace the TV with one of the other TVs. They might still have them left in stock. You won't know unless you ask. If they are still in stock but are reluctant to swap, offer to give them $50 to do the swap.

I did talk the dealer and they agreed to let me exchange it. good dealer to deal with!

I just wasn't sure if people who had also had this problem lived with it, especially if the tv was fine in every other way. It's a lot of time and effort for everybody for something that's hard to notice unless you're looking for it.

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^I had a pixel on mine go bad, but I didn't notice it until 3 months in, and it's in the letterbox area in the left-hand side. Wasn't worth bothering Panasonic over in my estimation. A lot would depend on location of said pixel. The more centrally located, the greater the motivation to exchange it.
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A friend mentioned to me that Panasonic is keeping parts around for the S/V/ZTs for a few years. Is this true, because it certainly sounds too good to be true.

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A friend mentioned to me that Panasonic is keeping parts around for the S/V/ZTs for a few years. Is this true, because it certainly sounds too good to be true.
Likely, although probably not everything, and good chance not the plasma panel itself. Fans, circuit boards, things like that.
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A friend mentioned to me that Panasonic is keeping parts around for the S/V/ZTs for a few years. Is this true, because it certainly sounds too good to be true.

Also, Panasonic is not replacing panels when damage. So, I wouldn't count on it. However, you probably won't need service during the life of the TV.
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Yes, localized over the circuit board(s) and input module, but now you've got me in freakout mode. The level of Fahrenheit is great enough to not be able to rest my hand comfortably.. It has been running for hours on end lately...hope it doesn't meet an untimely, premature death with all this heat generation.

Vinnie, I seem to recall a discussion on this or maybe another thread on this forum about temperatures pre- and post-fix. Someone actually measured temperatures on different areas of the back of the TV and made a diagram of it. Might want to search for that discussion...
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A friend mentioned to me that Panasonic is keeping parts around for the S/V/ZTs for a few years. Is this true, because it certainly sounds too good to be true.

Here's what the Panasonic ex-insider said (back when he was still an insider) when asked a similar question (see post # 1292):

http://www.**************.com/general-display-discussions/16036-panasonic-insiders-thread-rumors-hints-info-65.html

Vague answer, I know...
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Vinnie, I seem to recall a discussion on this or maybe another thread on this forum about temperatures pre- and post-fix. Someone actually measured temperatures on different areas of the back of the TV and made a diagram of it. Might want to search for that discussion...
Vaguely familiar...at the moment, I'm actually most annoyed by what must be burn-in from either the Netflix navigation bar or Netflix captions, which has created a faint rectangular indentation in that area of the screen. I had put it out of mind for a while because of the OLED but have been seeing it again from 5 to 6 feet out (luckily not from my typical 9 to 10 feet distances) now that I've refocused attention on the ZT. I had already conducted ridiculously exhaustive slides and pixel flipper sessions (over the course of 3 days and possibly as long as a week), so I guess it's safe to call this burn-in, something my Kuro never suffered (though it fell to uneven letterbox wear, which is another kind of burn-in). The perfect TV remains elusive, for sure.
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A friend mentioned to me that Panasonic is keeping parts around for the S/V/ZTs for a few years. Is this true, because it certainly sounds too good to be true.

They have to by law in the European Union. I think it's for 6 to 10 years, I can't remember the length of time exactly.
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