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post #13861 of 13885 Old 08-11-2015, 10:27 AM
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Thats a real bummer man! I am like you and would want to try to get the ZT repaired. Spending a similar amount on a new LED-LCD would require a significant drop in picture quality IMO.

I would check on the warranty length/coverage for the repair, ie-is it a year? If shorter, like 90 days or 6 months, that would make me consider buying a new TV much more seriously if I was in your position. Also, could you request a new panel instead of refurb?

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...could you request a new panel instead of refurb?
There are no new panels. As far as I know there never were extra panels made or set aside for repair purposes, but even so the TV has been out of production for a year and a half now.

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Gotcha, makes sense there wouldn't be any extra new panels, especially 1.5 years on.

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Back when i had the ZT all it needed for me was a pure black and i would have kept it be because it was one hell of a tv.

I got rid went through most LG oleds still something was missing. Then got s9c samsung oled and boy its a top notch tv.
In some ways it acts so much more like a plasma then LG oled does. Lg oled acts like lcd.

Brilliant tv with pure blacks

The ZT next to the ea9800 lg oled did very well except for pure black which it cant do.
Such a old tech plasma was keeping up to the new oled tech.
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Samsung isn't making OLEDs. LG's equivalent sized OLED is more than twice what I paid for my ZT60 two years ago. We've heard a lot about the tech and there's no one here who wouldn't trade their plasma for an OLED that can provide brighter whites and darker blacks as long as they didn't have to sacrifice color accuracy to do so, but not many are willing to pay $7,000 to do so. As such, OLED is practically still in the prototype stage.
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I'm thinking of buying this Tv locally its on sale for $1990.00 for Zt or $1799 for Vt 60" Canadian, do you guys recommend, should I get extended warranty, TIA
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ZT all the way and don't look back. IMO extended warranty is not necessary since there are no panels left for warranty purposes and replacement parts are non-existent or in very short supply.
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I have a dilemma deciding between craigslist plasmas.

60ZT60 Asking $2150
65VT60 Asking $2300

Not sure which one to pursue....looking for input. Thanks.
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I have a dilemma deciding between craigslist plasmas.

60ZT60 Asking $2150
65VT60 Asking $2300

Not sure which one to pursue....looking for input. Thanks.
Is your viewing area controlled lighting? If it were me, the 65" VT wins on size, being just $150 more than the ZT.
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Is your viewing area controlled lighting? If it were me, the 65" VT wins on size, being just $150 more than the ZT.
Yes, this will be my basement so the lighting is controlled. I've heard some people say the filters and materials used on the ZT give it superior image retention reduction compared to the VT60. I do notice that I have image retention on my existing 55" VT60 when using my media player and PS4. Also, I have a floating mount off of my TV stand and its only 32" across and I am not sure the mounting screw holes are spaced less than 32" so that might make me look at the 60".

Is it documented anywhere online how far the mounting holes are apart for the 55" , 60" and 65" VT60/ZT60? Is it standardized?
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Yes, this will be my basement so the lighting is controlled. I've heard some people say the filters and materials used on the ZT give it superior image retention reduction compared to the VT60. I do notice that I have image retention on my existing 55" VT60 when using my media player and PS4. Also, I have a floating mount off of my TV stand and its only 32" across and I am not sure the mounting screw holes are spaced less than 32" so that might make me look at the 60".

Is it documented anywhere online how far the mounting holes are apart for the 55" , 60" and 65" VT60/ZT60? Is it standardized?
Can't answer the mounting hole question unfortunately. I have the ZT, but those extra 5" really adds to the immersiveness of the display, IMHO
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Can't answer the mounting hole question unfortunately. I have the ZT, but those extra 5" really adds to the immersiveness of the display, IMHO
Yeah, my plan is to move the 55" VT60 up to the family room and to put the 60" ZT60 in the home theater. I agree completely with you, the 55" mounted hanging just doesn't feel big enoughon my TV stand and mount.
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Yes, this will be my basement so the lighting is controlled. I've heard some people say the filters and materials used on the ZT give it superior image retention reduction compared to the VT60. I do notice that I have image retention on my existing 55" VT60 when using my media player and PS4. Also, I have a floating mount off of my TV stand and its only 32" across and I am not sure the mounting screw holes are spaced less than 32" so that might make me look at the 60".

Is it documented anywhere online how far the mounting holes are apart for the 55" , 60" and 65" VT60/ZT60? Is it standardized?
believe they are standardized - simply check Panasonic web site for manuals

http://shop.panasonic.com/support-only/TC-P60VT60.html
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Yes, this will be my basement so the lighting is controlled. I've heard some people say the filters and materials used on the ZT give it superior image retention reduction compared to the VT60. I do notice that I have image retention on my existing 55" VT60 when using my media player and PS4.
My recollection is there is no difference in the panels for the ZT60 and VT60 with regards to factors that would control IR. And, there also seems to be a randomness regarding which ZT60s are more prone to it than others, and perhaps even on how and where it will appear when it is present. A ZT is not a panacea for IR, but you could get lucky.

I'd go for the bigger screen myself, but also I'd want to see the set in action if it was a used one. Pesky IR could be why it's being sold...
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believe they are standardized - simply check Panasonic web site for manuals

http://shop.panasonic.com/support-only/TC-P60VT60.html
I was able to see from the manual the distance between the holes on the 65" VT60 but there is no reference if the TV stand and bracket are the same for the 55" and 60" or 65".


I realize this is a long shot but is anyone willing to sell me their stand bracket piece and screws for the 55" VT60/ZT60?
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I have a dilemma deciding between craigslist plasmas.

60ZT60 Asking $2150
65VT60 Asking $2300

Not sure which one to pursue....looking for input. Thanks.
I'd get the larger TV. The ZT and VT have the same panel, so there's no difference in terms of IR. The only difference is the anti-reflection filter. The ZT's is better, but that only comes into play if you have ambient lighting. And additionally, the filter itself may contribute to lower light output. So if it's a dark room, go with the VT.
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Got a call from ABC Warehouse offering an extended warranty on my ZT and S60. The rep says that is offered in case "the plasma gas runs out or leaks out." I ask her if she is kidding me and she replies that she has heard of people crying and moaning because the "plasma gas" has run out and they can't get it replenish. I stifle a snark and tell her to have a nice day. I told a friend of mine about the call and she told me that when she got the early Pioneer PureVision 5030, the salesman from Circuit City told her that they would have to come out and plant yellow warning flags around the house warning people of the radiation hazard coming from the display! Frightened, she called Pioneer, who debunked the salesman, got $2000 off the cost of the Panel and a free wall bracket. The tech may be dead, but the ignorance continues.
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Got a call from ABC Warehouse offering an extended warranty on my ZT and S60. The rep says that is offered in case "the plasma gas runs out or leaks out." I ask her if she is kidding me and she replies that she has heard of people crying and moaning because the "plasma gas" has run out and they can't get it replenish. I stifle a snark and tell her to have a nice day. I told a friend of mine about the call and she told me that when she got the early Pioneer PureVision 5030, the salesman from Circuit City told her that they would have to come out and plant yellow warning flags around the house warning people of the radiation hazard coming from the display! Frightened, she called Pioneer, who debunked the salesman, got $2000 off the cost of the Panel and a free wall bracket. The tech may be dead, but the ignorance continues.
Wish you had asked if that could be repaired. I'm sure she would've said yes.
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Got a call from ABC Warehouse offering an extended warranty on my ZT and S60. The rep says that is offered in case "the plasma gas runs out or leaks out." I ask her if she is kidding me and she replies that she has heard of people crying and moaning because the "plasma gas" has run out and they can't get it replenish. I stifle a snark and tell her to have a nice day. I told a friend of mine about the call and she told me that when she got the early Pioneer PureVision 5030, the salesman from Circuit City told her that they would have to come out and plant yellow warning flags around the house warning people of the radiation hazard coming from the display! Frightened, she called Pioneer, who debunked the salesman, got $2000 off the cost of the Panel and a free wall bracket. The tech may be dead, but the ignorance continues.
That's too funny! Unbelievable.
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Got a call from ABC Warehouse offering an extended warranty on my ZT and S60. The rep says that is offered in case "the plasma gas runs out or leaks out." I ask her if she is kidding me and she replies that she has heard of people crying and moaning because the "plasma gas" has run out and they can't get it replenish. I stifle a snark and tell her to have a nice day. I told a friend of mine about the call and she told me that when she got the early Pioneer PureVision 5030, the salesman from Circuit City told her that they would have to come out and plant yellow warning flags around the house warning people of the radiation hazard coming from the display! Frightened, she called Pioneer, who debunked the salesman, got $2000 off the cost of the Panel and a free wall bracket. The tech may be dead, but the ignorance continues.
That is hysterical !!

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It just reaffirms the mind that Plasma TV has always had stereotypes against it. Hell, my first model was a PIO 920HD. Sold it to my nephew a few years ago and its still going strong. My KURO 5020 is 6 yrs old and fully functional. I expect no trouble from my Pannys (fingers crossed). Certainly no loss of "plasma gas".
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Back when i had the ZT all it needed for me was a pure black and i would have kept it be because it was one hell of a tv.

I got rid went through most LG oleds still something was missing. Then got s9c samsung oled and boy its a top notch tv.
In some ways it acts so much more like a plasma then LG oled does. Lg oled acts like lcd.

Brilliant tv with pure blacks

The ZT next to the ea9800 lg oled did very well except for pure black which it cant do.
Such a old tech plasma was keeping up to the new oled tech.
I have owned both ea9800 and s9c, compared them side by side and returned s9c. Ea9800 is the best tv one can ever buy beating s9c as well.

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Also, F8500 have outscored s9c and zt is known to be better than f8500. So ZT is also better than s9c.

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The zt still shows a picture that you can put in your cinema room.
The only alternative would be a samsung oled but that is hard to find.
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Is there a preferred wall mount for the ZT-60 ?
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The zt still shows a picture that you can put in your cinema room. The only alternative would be a samsung oled but that is hard to find.
I didn't know Samsung made any OLEDs -- yet.
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