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post #2791 of 12255 Old 08-26-2013, 09:16 PM
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You may be right. Does the 8500 have fans?

I'm guessing all computers have some sort of fan (or cooling system, that is), but some are internal and some aren't.

No fans which you can hear, though. The buzzing isn't bad either (my D7000 has bad buzzing).
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I have not had any IR issues with my ZT60. Am I lucky or is the IR issue overstated?
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I have not had any IR issues with my ZT60. Am I lucky or is the IR issue overstated?
I've seen it on mine but only in very limited situations. And for only brief periods.

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Overstated and small sample audience (IMO). No IR here and I watch all kinds of stuff with static images. There are bad panels made just as there is bad anything made once in awhile during any production run (no matter the product), FWIW, Panasonic has taken extraordinary steps to create a quality production of the ZT (more so than any of their others).
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You may be right. Does the 8500 have fans?
From what I understand, the F8500 uses passive cooling versus the ZT60, which has the 3 predominant fans on the back. Buzz has been the occasional problem on the former set.
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Of course the processor has a fan, but the panel itself is cooled passively AFAIK. That does mean less expulsion of heat, though, so the concern is a valid one.
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Yea, agreed. smile.gif
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Well, after pushing my delivery date back in hopes to get a ZT from the "newest" batch my replacement ZT is number 1275 built back in May:eek:.... oh the irony.

I just got done setting up my ZT and I have no idea what to think now... it looks waaaaaay better than the ZT I had before which was built in July! Fan noise is there but I've gotten used to it and its a nonissue for me. I am now convinced that no one panel is the same, I just cant get pass how great the PQ is on my replacement set. This one is a keeper so far, I cant say much for IR yet as its waaay to soon for me to test out static logos.

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yes so a capacitor with higher temperature will dry faster then one at a lower temperature, thats my point.

Capacitors have different lifespans. Anything runs better longer cooler.

But most capacitors in consumer grade products are 10,000 hrs. Certainly the Panasonic ones i have looked at online are rated for this.

There will be exceptions - some much much longer, some much less.

Keeping heat down (if possible) is always advisable if aiming for a long and reliable lifespan - with anything.
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I would imagine that long term reliability is of little concern to electronics manufacturers today. The same could probably be said for consumers really. Electronics have been considered disposable items for a long time by most as we all compete to have the latest and greatest. By the time most of these tvs have 50,000 hrs on them (if they make it) they will probably be on a 3rd owner.

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Ones that last won't have been hammered though.
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Hammered?

Pardon me that's a UK expression.

Overused/overheated.

It advisable to not run a plasma any longer than 17hrs max before a cooling period. Even with effective or non effective internal fans running - or no fans at all.
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Pardon me that's a UK expression.

Overused/overheated.

It advisable to not run a plasma any longer than 17hrs max before a cooling period. Even with effective or non effective internal fans running - or no fans at all.
I see. Thanks for the explanation.
I ran mine for 100 hours straight with the slides when I first got it with no adverse affects that I can see. This was an ST50 with no fans.

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Might the apparent differences in reported IR occurrences be related to contrast/light output settings? I ask because my granddaughter plays video games for hours on our 65ZT60 on the weekends. As a precaution I lower the contrast from 50 down to 30. I've not seen a bit of IR after her playing games with static areas for hours at a time.

I've calibrated my sets ISF Day (pro1) and use that for all other watching, including some sports and satellite. My measured light output in this calibrated mode is about 25 ftL. I'm lucky enough to have a fairly dim room so I never need to operate the panel at THX Bright or anything with very high contract/light output.

I did use the slides for some hours while I wasn't watching the unit when it was brand new and used the pixel wipe for an hour a night after watching normal satellite for a couple of weeks after that.

Maybe the people experiencing IR are needing to run their panels near the max output of the panel?
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I see. Thanks for the explanation.
I ran mine for 100 hours straight with the slides when I first got it with no adverse affects that I can see. This was an ST50 with no fans.

Well each to their own. I have been running my new KRP500 for no longer than 14 hrs at any one time during slides (07:30-21:30)before switching off until the morning even with the very effective internal fans running constantly.

Well over 300hrs of slides now and the middle top back plate where the PSU is only gets a bit warm now. Was hotter (but not fry an egg hot) to begin with up to approximately 180 or so hours. But the left and right sides where the Y&Z are not even lukewarm so it's good to know it's running properly and cool.
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Hey all

Mine arrived yesterday. It is a thing of beauty.

Picture is an iPhone pic.



Fan fix was pre-installed and the set was broken in and calibrated. In terms of fan noise - late last night I could hear the fan but it was nothing at all distracting (even with the volume turned all the way down) and in fact it could really only be heard when I had my ear towards the back of the set. No IR issues to speak of ... but only really had an evening to play with it.

I saw a noticeable difference with the brightness of the image in the calibrated mode - so would suggest a calibration at some point if you are able. However - even if not calibrated the THX modes looked good - just slightly duller in comparison to the ISF modes. 3D looked good on the set for the 10 mins or so that I tested it. Still playing with it and getting used to the set. I also viewed SD content from DVD and was worried that it wouldn't look good. It did look very watchable and was one of the reasons I didn't go down the Samsung route - as Samsung SD handling is poor in my opinion.

I have had plasma TV's since the early days and never had any burn-in or IR issues that have bothered me ... I am not concerned about those issues but am keeping an eye out for them. Will report back on any findings.

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^^^Looks nice. The set came broken-in, calibrated and with the kit? I'd have though you got it through VE but I see chrome on your unit.

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^^^Looks nice. The set came broken-in, calibrated and with the kit? I'd have though you got it through VE but I see chrome on your unit.

Yes - I got it from VE - did sign-up for the limited edition black ... but it would have delayed delivery so I decided to go for the set in it's chrome glory. To be honest I barely notice the chrome trim while watching the set (in fact I haven't found it at all distracting). Robert has offered a post-delivery paint job but at this point I am thinking that I don't really need it. However - I am sure that an all black set would be great but I am glad just to have this beast on my wall. smile.gif
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Well, after pushing my delivery date back in hopes to get a ZT from the "newest" batch my replacement ZT is number 1275 built back in May:eek:.... oh the irony.

I just got done setting up my ZT and I have no idea what to think now... it looks waaaaaay better than the ZT I had before which was built in July! Fan noise is there but I've gotten used to it and its a nonissue for me. I am now convinced that no one panel is the same, I just cant get pass how great the PQ is on my replacement set. This one is a keeper so far, I cant say much for IR yet as its waaay to soon for me to test out static logos.
Glad to hear the new set look's good. Yes you would have thought by now you would have gotten a newer set. The latest model's also now have the fan fix pre-installed, but since you are used to it, that's a non issue. I also think each panel is different and no matter what batch you get it from their can be some bad apple's so to speak. I hope to hear in future posts that you no longer have bad IR problems and all is well with your new set.

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Yes - I got it from VE - did sign-up for the limited edition black ... but it would have delayed delivery so I decided to go for the set in it's chrome glory. To be honest I barely notice the chrome trim while watching the set (in fact I haven't found it at all distracting). Robert has offered a post-delivery paint job but at this point I am thinking that I don't really need it. However - I am sure that an all black set would be great but I am glad just to have this beast on my wall. smile.gif

congrads,
Can you tell us how you compare the blacks in THX mode to the calibrated mode?

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I see. Thanks for the explanation.
I ran mine for 100 hours straight with the slides when I first got it with no adverse affects that I can see. This was an ST50 with no fans.
I went for nearly 300 hours without a break. It's a good way to stress test the bad boy while you're still within the return period.
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I am curious if anyone here has used the "Mirroring" feature on the ZT60 (available in Apps)?

Evidently, from what I have learned this is actually Miracast technology and can *only* be used with certain Android devices. I was thinking of getting an Android device in order to use this functionality. My understanding is that this will result in being able to project any video/audio from the device to the TV screen. I am considering getting an HTC One phone for this purpose - I've read there are problems with Nexus tablets.

Does anyone use this functionality? Which Android device are you using for this? Does this provide a decent viewing/listening experience and are there any limitations you have encountered?

Any info appreciated.
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I used it to "cast" a Youtube video via my Samsung Galaxy S3, so I can confirm it does work, but that is the extent I used it.
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Does the ZT or VT have plex in the app store yet?
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Does the ZT or VT have plex in the app store yet?

Both support DLNA compliant media servers. I think Plex is DLNA compliant - so theoretically you should not need an app. I am able to use PlayOn with my ZT60.
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